Gluten free diets

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:27am #1

A person who truly needs to eat Gluten Free has a very serious medical condition known as Celiac Disease but why are people who don't have this disease on these diets, why are people depriving themselves of some essential nutrients to go on a diet that a magazine told them to go on. I know a couple of people that are on gluten free diets and they dont need to be on them.

Esel · 22-02-2014 1:29am

Maybe because there may be some health benefits from going gluten-free? (I don't know, btw).

mikom · 22-02-2014 1:31am

jamesbere wrote: »

A person who truly needs to eat Gluten Free has a very serious medical condition known as Celiac Disease but why are people who don't have this disease on these diets,

They could have a basic intolerance of Gluten.
I know I have.
I'm not Coeliac.

uch · 22-02-2014 1:33am

I Like Cake

mickrock · 22-02-2014 1:34am

jamesbere wrote: »

why are people depriving themselves of some essential nutrients to go on a diet

What essential nutrients are you referring to?

Femme_Fatale · 22-02-2014 1:34am

jamesbere wrote: »

A person who truly needs to eat Gluten Free has a very serious medical condition known as Celiac Disease but why are people who don't have this disease on these diets, why are people depriving themselves of some essential nutrients to go on a diet that a magazine told them to go on. I know a couple of people that are on gluten free diets and they dont need to be on them.

People can have gluten intolerance yet not Coeliac's disease.

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 1:34am

I have a friend who is google Celiac

Mint Aero · 22-02-2014 1:37am

It's classic Apple syndrome. Gluten free crap is expensive. People equate expense as being good for you. People are stupid. How do you even know they're on this diet? Did they tell you? Remind you of anything?

420Sw4gBro9000 · 22-02-2014 1:39am

Because that **** gives me indigestion so I need to go easy on it.

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:39am

mickrock wrote: »

What essential nutrients are you referring to?

There taking out essential b vitamins, whole food breads and cereals are loaded with B vitamins. Eating fiber rich foods are important, especially in order to get and maintain normal intestinal and bowel movement

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:40am

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's classic Apple syndrome. Gluten free crap is expensive. People equate expense as being good for you. People are stupid. How do you even know they're on this diet? Did they tell you? Remind you of anything?

Yeah they told me, how else would I know

mikom · 22-02-2014 1:41am

jamesbere wrote: »

There taking out essential b vitamins, whole food breads and cereals are loaded with B vitamins. Eating fiber rich foods are important, especially in order to get and maintain normal intestinal and bowel movement

My bowel movements and intestinal workings are much better when I avoid Gluten.

Esel · 22-02-2014 1:41am

jamesbere wrote: »

Yeah they told me, how else would I know

From poking matchsticks in their poo?

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 1:41am

mikom wrote: »

My bowel movements and intestinal workings are much better when I avoid Gluten.

Tmi

mikom · 22-02-2014 1:42am

WikiHow wrote: »

Tmi

Tortured my intestines.

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:43am

mikom wrote: »

They could have a basic intolerance of Gluten.
I know I have.
I'm not Coeliac.

They dont even have that, If they were intolerant it would make sense but they're not, thats what baffles me.

420Sw4gBro9000 · 22-02-2014 1:43am

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's classic Apple syndrome. Gluten free crap is expensive. People equate expense as being good for you. People are stupid. How do you even know they're on this diet? Did they tell you? Remind you of anything?

Yes, there's no such thing as coeliac disease, intestinal issues or anything else that I personally haven't experienced.
People who do things I don't do are such a pack of ****ing retards!

WoollyRedHat · 22-02-2014 1:43am

What foods have gluten in it as a matter of interest?

Mint Aero · 22-02-2014 1:43am

jamesbere wrote: »

Yeah they told me, how else would I know

Rummaging through their bins for one.

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 1:44am

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

What foods have gluten in it as a matter of interest?

Carvery.

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:44am

Esel wrote: »

From poking matchsticks in their poo?

What are you on about

Mint Aero · 22-02-2014 1:44am

420Sw4gBro9000 wrote: »

Yes, there's no such thing as coeliac disease, intestinal issues or anything else that I personally haven't experienced.
People who do things I don't do are such a pack of ****ing retards!

Finally someone else gets it

mikom · 22-02-2014 1:47am

jamesbere wrote: »

A person who truly needs to eat Gluten Free has a very serious medical condition known as Celiac Disease but why are people who don't have this disease on these diets, why are people depriving themselves of some essential nutrients to go on a diet that a magazine told them to go on. I know a couple of people that are on gluten free diets and they dont need to be on them.

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Banned

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 1:49am

mikom wrote: »

A choice?
Why do you support an English premier league club?

Is this more inspector morse or csi stuff?

mikom · 22-02-2014 1:50am

WikiHow wrote: »

Is this more inspector morse or csi stuff?

Gluten she wrote.

Bipolar Joe · 22-02-2014 1:52am

Many people say they have an intolerance but don't. Like a few years ago it was "cool" to have bipolar disorder, before that it was aspergers and various types of autism. Before that, it was lactose. List goes on. There are fad illnesses, maybe part of a "Look at me" syndrome.

Bipolar Joe · 22-02-2014 1:53am

mikom wrote: »

Why do you support an English premier league club rather than a league of Ireland club?

Because Irish clubs are shite?

Femme_Fatale · 22-02-2014 1:54am

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Many people say they have an intolerance but don't. Like a few years ago it was "cool" to have bipolar disorder, before that it was aspergers and various types of autism. Before that, it was lactose. List goes on. There are fad illnesses, maybe part of a "Look at me" syndrome.

Yeh it's all fake. None of it is genuine. People really want to have bipolar disorder for the craic.

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 1:54am

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because Irish clubs are shite?

Is it because they are lactose intolerant?

WoollyRedHat · 22-02-2014 1:55am

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because Irish clubs are shite?

It depends what kind of music you're into.

Molester Stallone · 22-02-2014 1:55am

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because Irish clubs are shite?

In fairness, you'll be on again in 20 minutes saying they're fckin brilliant!

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 1:56am

mikom wrote: »

A choice?
Why do you support an English premier league club rather than a league of Ireland club?

The point i'm trying to put across is why without any medical advice are people going on diets they don't need to go on. And yes I know its choice, but If you put that up on every thread on boards there wouldn't be much discussion

Esel · 22-02-2014 1:56am

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because Irish clubs are shite?

Needs more matchsticks, Joe....

xxmeabhxx · 22-02-2014 2:03am

To answer the OP's question, probably a mixture of ignorance and fashion.

There are of course real reasons to go gluten free, some people have intolerances or coeliac disease but there are people who see "diet" and think it's a weight loss thing or they just hear lots about it and think it's cool or will be more healthy for them even though it will limit them massively in what they can eat.

My sister used to work in superquinn. She was working at the checkout and there was a woman buying a load of gluten free products and one of the other women who worked there was commenting on it saying that she tried to the gluten free diet and it didn't work for her. She was talking about it as if it was a weight loss thing which it isn't.

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 2:11am

xxmeabhxx wrote: »

To answer the OP's question, probably a mixture of ignorance and fashion.

There are of course real reasons to go gluten free, some people have intolerances or coeliac disease but there are people who see "diet" and think it's a weight loss thing or they just hear lots about it and think it's cool or will be more healthy for them even though it will limit them massively in what they can eat.

My sister used to work in superquinn. She was working at the checkout and there was a woman buying a load of gluten free products and one of the other women who worked there was commenting on it saying that she tried to the gluten free diet and it didn't work for her. She was talking about it as if it was a weight loss thing which it isn't.

I've wondered when people see the word diet at the end of a sentence do they automatically think that they will lose weight from going on it.

Baze · 22-02-2014 2:12am

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

What foods have gluten in it as a matter of interest?

Gluten is just a vague term. It’s something that’s used to categorize things that are bad. You know, calories, that’s a gluten. Fat, that’s a gluten.

Sir Arthur Daley · 22-02-2014 2:13am

Once there is no Gluten in MacDonalds i dont mind.

jamesbere · 22-02-2014 2:25am

Here are some interesting diets, The fresh air diet looks great

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10472726/This-years-most-dangerous-fad-diets.html

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 22-02-2014 3:08am

mikom wrote: »

A choice?
Why do you support an English premier league club rather than a league of Ireland club?

It's bad enough I have to see this on the soccer forum but on a thread about gluten free diets....

happypants · 22-02-2014 11:35am

uch wrote: »

I Like Cake

My friend is celiac, I brought her a gluten free cake yesterday... It wasn't very nice but she loved it.

I like cake too, with gluten.

For Forks Sake · 22-02-2014 11:38am

WikiHow wrote: »

Carvery.

Oh no you didn't...

whirlpool · 22-02-2014 11:52am

A lot of people will try gluten-free diets to see if they feel better on it, because of the advice that is out there at the moment. It's that simple.

Yes, it may be a trend at the moment, but the only thing worse than trends is the anti-trend people - being anti-trend itself is a trend so don't think you're fooling anyone.

Lisha · 22-02-2014 11:58am

happypants wrote: »

My friend is celiac, I brought her a gluten free cake yesterday... It wasn't very nice but she loved it.

I like cake too, with gluten.

I once took a big bite of a gorgeous looking apple tart. Boy was I sorry, it was gluten free pastry. Utterly rank, like eating sand.

But some gluten breads can be nice and are not as doughy and heavy as bread. I use the super valu gluten free baps as buns for home made burgers in the summer nomnom

Clearlier · 22-02-2014 12:32pm

jamesbere wrote: »

There taking out essential b vitamins, whole food breads and cereals are loaded with B vitamins. Eating fiber rich foods are important, especially in order to get and maintain normal intestinal and bowel movement

Although I personally eat and enjoy lots of wheat and lots of products that contain gluten it's just wrong to suggest that it's essential.

B vitamins can be found in many other foods. Fibre is far better got from vegetables and fruit if you're looking for a balanced diet.

IMO the various 'gluten free' products/substitutes that are found in the shops should generally be avoided like the plague. The number of ingredients and the amount of processing that goes into them makes them something that I think better avoided.

It's perfectly feasible to and (many cultures traditionally do) follow a gluten free diet without resorting to the highly processed rubbish that is found in the gluten free section of many supermarkets.

The descriptors healthy and unhealthy are not synonomous with a gluten free diet. With the exception of those who are intolerant to gluten (including but not exclusively those with coeliac disease [for which the test can be difficult to administer]) diets containing gluten and gluten free diets can be healthy or unhealthy.

Butterface · 22-02-2014 12:35pm

jamesbere wrote: »

The point i'm trying to put across is why without any medical advice are people going on diets they don't need to go on. And yes I know its choice, but If you put that up on every thread on boards there wouldn't be much discussion

The majority of people choose to go on diets without seeking any medical advice and for a multitude of reasons, whether it's to help with weightloss, allergies, IBS etc.

The people you know may only consume a few gluten-free products, and not replace everything in their diet with gluten-free stuff. Maybe they eat a lot of biscuits and cake but it leaves them feeling bloated or whatever, and they find that the gluten-free stuff is okay.

jane82 · 22-02-2014 12:49pm

Gluten free is a word that still makes me shiver. As a kid I used to get very sick when I ate gluten. Gluten is in everything. Sausages to bread to beer. Gluten free anything is rank.
This rankness made me just keep eating gluten and getting through the sickness until my body stopped getting sick from it.
I am the least fussy eater in the world but it was horrible food altogether. I think people will lose weight on this diet because (a) food is more expensive so you eat less (b) the bread is the worse of all so you avoid it eating less carbs (c) pretty much the only normal foods that dont have gluten are clean foods like chicken so you will eat more protein.

Tl/dr eat less lose weight dont punish yourself with expensive cardboard bread

ProfessorPlum · 22-02-2014 12:59pm

Gluten is contained in grains - wheat, barley, rye and most oats. A proper gluten free diet would be fairly restrictive in Ireland. Cut out the obvious breads, cakes, pastas etc and add to that beer, soups, sauces, gravies etc. in fact if you check the labeling of many many processed foods you'll find they contain gluten. So I'd guess the non coeliac 'gluten free' diet followers aren't on a gluten free diet at all.

22-02-2014 1:06pm

happypants wrote: »

My friend is celiac, I brought her a gluten free cake yesterday... It wasn't very nice but she loved it.

I like cake too, with gluten.

You can get nice gluten free cake and buns, I know cos I've made em and they don't taste any different. Shop bought stuff does taste worse but then shop bought cakes are never as nice as homemade!
I started getting nausea and eventually cramping whenever I ate wheat or anything wheat based a few months ago. Trust me it's not cool or fun, it's a total pain in the backside

Mr. CooL ICE · 22-02-2014 1:16pm

I follow a mostly gluten-free diet but am not celiac. I always had problems with energy levels and I find that avoiding processed and starchy foods keeps my energy levels up. It just happens to be mostly gluten free food that I eat.

I don't purposely buy gluten-free products, but I do prepare the majority of my food. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, meat and 2/3 veg for dinner, fruit and nuts for snacks and some other meat/salad/omelette type thing for supper.

jane82 · 22-02-2014 1:25pm

LordChessington wrote: »

I follow a mostly gluten-free diet but am not celiac. I always had problems with energy levels and I find that avoiding processed and starchy foods keeps my energy levels up. It just happens to be mostly gluten free food that I eat.

I don't purposely buy gluten-free products, but I do prepare the majority of my food. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, meat and 2/3 veg for dinner, fruit and nuts for snacks and some other meat/salad/omelette type thing for supper.

You could have said. Bad Carbs make you bloated and lazy. I noticed wherever there is bad carbs there is gluten. I dont buy non bad carb food I just avoid bad carb food.
I normally eat food rich in protein and get good carbs and vitamins from veg.

ProfessorPlum · 22-02-2014 1:32pm

LordChessington wrote: »

I follow a mostly gluten-free diet but am not celiac. I always had problems with energy levels and I find that avoiding processed and starchy foods keeps my energy levels up. It just happens to be mostly gluten free food that I eat.

I don't purposely buy gluten-free products, but I do prepare the majority of my food. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, meat and 2/3 veg for dinner, fruit and nuts for snacks and some other meat/salad/omelette type thing for supper.

So maybe it would be more correct to say you follow a low starch / low carb diet not a low gluten diet ? Would you avoid other grains - rice, corn etc, or is it just gluten containing grains. And beer.

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