First car

Dooley052

Hi, I'm nearly 17 and I have passed my theory test already. I'll be getting my provisional soon and I'm just wondering what would be the best first car I could get as a first.
Budget is about 5 to 8 thousand.
I can already drive so that's a bonus.
I'm talking total cost 5-8 grand ( car insurance and tax etc included).
Thanks any suggestion appreciated.

Noccy_Mondy

Depends what route you want to take. But whatever the route, insurance is going to take a MAJOR chunk out of the budget.
You can go newer, smaller petrol engine, such as an astra/golf/focus etc or
An older VAG based engine such as a Tdi passat/golf etc (which will really send the insurance costs up)
Depends if you want a higher powered car or a smaller engined one.
Will you be insured on your own or as a named driver?

bazz26

I'd be looking along the lines of a Ford Fiesta 1.25litre, a great little car with a nippy engine. My sister has one for nearly 4 years now and not a bother from it. Something like these are well within budget:


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-ford-fiesta-zetec-steel-1-2l-nct-tax/6319654


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-25-zetec/6276606

toyotaavensis

Obviously a yaris will be suggested but OP what sort of car are you interested in. Have you any hobbies which will mean you want a big boot. Are you very tall or small. A six and a half foot lad in an old suzuki alto wouldnt be good.
Do you plan to do around town or motorway sort of driving?

8loopy8

a little red starlet best car ever built i used to have one there like a go kart dont bother spending more than 1k your insurance b probably close to 2 maybe even 3 at 17 on a 1.3 starlet what a car tho my gf learned in a lil starlet me i learned in a Renault megavan commercial cheaper tax and insurance 2 seats i had to learn fast no back windows i hit it off alot of walls haha your gona bang it off something dont go over priced on it keep it cheap your only 17 no need to be gettin into debt if i had known what i do about cars now when i was 17 a bit of advise keep the same car for 2 years don't swap sell or buy a diffrent one premiums will rise on insurance and you could end up not been able to afford it and loose important ncb half way through the year starlets are great anin french is ****e like me old Renault pugout fiat as-well fiestas ari but not as much fun 99 to 01 wouldnt be goin higher than that polos are **** too haha get a starlet u wont regret it
and plenty of room to xrisin it ha get the leg over :) toyota ford mazda honda all good
steer clear the rest

toyotaavensis

Did you ever hear of punctuation?
Not all peugeots are unreliable. Their XUD diesel engines were even used by Toyota so it seems like you are talking through your ****.

dgt

8loopy8 wrote: »

a little red starlet best car ever built.
I used to have one there like a go kart.
Dont bother spending more than 1k, your insurance b probably close to 2 maybe even 3 at 17 on a 1.3 starlet.
What a car tho, my gf learned in a lil starlet.
Me, i learned in a Renault megavan commercial cheaper tax and insurance 2 seats.
I had to learn fast no back windows.
I hit it off alot of walls!
Haha your gona bang it off something!!
Dont go over priced on it, keep it cheap your only 17 no need to be gettin into debt.
If i had known what i do about cars now when i was 17 a bit of advise: keep the same car for 2 years, don't swap sell or buy a diffrent one.
Premiums will rise on insurance and you could end up not been able to afford it and loose important ncb half way through the year.
Starlets are great anin french is ****e like me old Renault pugout fiat as-well fiestas ari but not as much fun.
99 to 01 wouldnt be goin higher than that polos are **** too haha!
Get a starlet u wont regret it and plenty of room to xrisin it!
Ha get the leg over :) toyota ford mazda honda all good, steer clear the rest

Sorry, I had to do it, I couldn't read it the way it was.

At 17, I highly doubt the OP will get insured on a Starlet by themselves. Maybe as a named driver on an existing policy. Grand to start in too.

Anyways, what a load generalised sh*te. Highly professional advice right there

pablo128

MK2 Yaris. '06 onwards should be in budget including insurance. Dirt cheap to run. I'm 6'3" and have no problem driving my missus' one. As it happens, my brother who is the same height was able to sit behind me with a bit of legroom in it. Don't buy a 3 door though, you'll never sell it on again. No-one wants them.
They are selling for 2k less than the 5 door versions.

Moneymaker

+1 to the Fiesta. They are super cars and the 3 door looks quite good imo.

toyotaavensis

Thanks dgt, makes more sense now that you translated it into English.

I know starlets are reliable but I am not sure if they are the best first car you could get. They are an old machine. Old machines dont have the safety equipment of cars from the last 10-15 years. As you are starting out you are more likely to be in an accident so just in case I would go for something a bit newer and safer just in case something happens.

OP this is not a dig at you anyone can have an accident at any time. I had one myself in my fourth year of driving. You are more likely to have one starting out. I had a few close calls when I was younger.

8loopy8

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Did you ever hear of punctuation?
Not all peugeots are unreliable. Their XUD diesel engines were even used by Toyota so it seems like you are talking through your ****.

man anything french is crap pure crap , up till around 06 newer common rail 1.6 diesel ..

from experience of buying them there pure ****e.. the German petrols also pure ****e, and there made to fall apart.
the kid needs steering in the right direction he needs to buy a Japanese litre to a 1.4 if he can stretch a civic great buy and nice car ..but anyone that thinks anything but the japs are decent petrols are just clowns vw ****e on a stick seriously the new fiat apart from the mk 4 tdi .. japs build great cars to last with good mpg and cheap parts and labour .
just look up done deal at the older cars see the comparison of jap cars to the rest of the muck out there

i currently own a toyota best built car in the world

pablo128

The Civic, and Honda's in general are good reliable cars, but insurance is shocking on Civics. A yound lad in work was able to insure a Merc C180 1.8 a lot cheaper than a 1.4 Civic.

toyotaavensis

By the way Fiats of the last while are very good cars. Some French cars like the citroen c1 and 107 are actually a toyota aygo underneath. Are these pure ****e too.

OP I strongly urge you to ignore this lad as he doesnt know his arse from his elbow. I think he is just trolling.

Noccy_Mondy

Get insurance quotes before you buy OP, not the other way around. Then that will narrow your choice down a fair bit!

8loopy8

pablo128 wrote: »

The Civic, and Honda's in general are good reliable cars, but insurance is shocking on Civics. A yound lad in work was able to insure a Merc C180 1.8 a lot cheaper than a 1.4 Civic.

no doubt the aul lad had a part to play there haha .. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
civics are the dogs bollix 35 mpg ,nice car for young lad or young one , 2500 aprox insurance, and would pick a sweet 00 all the electrics 3 door for 1200, and he would get twice as much pussy as the little granny fiesta there haha but still a clean pick with low miles be over stretching on insurance ..no doubt he will be in collage could use the extra money for errr ....socialising

8loopy8

toyotaavensis wrote: »

By the way Fiats of the last while are very good cars. Some French cars like the citroen c1 and 107 are actually a toyota aygo underneath. Are these pure ****e too.

OP I strongly urge you to ignore this lad as he doesnt know his arse from his elbow. I think he is just trolling.

dear god man your name is toyota avensis wtf are u getting on my back for?

have u ever owned a french car before 06 as i stated there the cars you see on the side of the road with a loada smoke coming from the enginge . and all the new cars are ****e u have to plug it into a computer to find out whats wrong with them.. 50 please ... ok hmmmmm its not an injector after spending 100e an injector to find out it wasnt an injector lets check the loom hmmmm not the loom what could it be ohhh i know the timing belts out a tooth ... ohh thank you mr vw/ go back 10 years cars are bomb proof japanese ones anyway the ones you see on donedeal today not the 98 99 clios that are in the scrap yard puntos polos and 306 even the 206 all ****e

pablo128

8loopy8 wrote: »

no doubt the aul lad had a part to play there haha .. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
civics are the dogs bollix 35 mpg ,nice car for young lad or young one , 2500 aprox insurance, and would pick a sweet 00 all the electrics 3 door for 1200, and he would get twice as much pussy as the little granny fiesta there haha but still a clean pick with low miles be over stretching on insurance ..no doubt he will be in collage could use the extra money for errr ....socialising

The young lad has said he's about to get his first provisional. I'm going to guess that at some stage (more than likely most of the time) he's going to be driving on his own, which of course is illegal.
He doesn't need to be getting pulled in a 14 yr old Civic every time he passes a garda car.

8loopy8

pablo128 wrote: »

The young lad has said he's about to get his first provisional. I'm going to guess that at some stage (more than likely most of the time) he's going to be driving on his own, which of course is illegal.
He doesn't need to be getting pulled in a 14 yr old Civic every time he passes a garda car.

fair point but thats the blind eye legal system catch a copper on a bad days fault not the 14 year old civics :D

dgt

8loopy8 wrote: »

I have no doubt the old lad had a part to play there haha... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Civics are the dogs bollocks: 35 mpg.

It is a nice car for young lad or young one.

€2500 aprox insurance and would pick a sweet 00 model with all the electrics.

A 3 door can be purchased for 1200 and he would get twice as much young pubescent boys as the little granny Fiesta there haha!

But still, a clean pick with low miles be over stretching on insurance. No doubt he will be in college could use the extra money for errr.... Socialising

I've had to do it again, many apologies but I can't read that in it's pre-formatted state. I'm sure others will appreciate translating that into a legible format

Noccy_Mondy

My God, if I had that lad in school, I would have him killed!

dgt

8loopy8 wrote: »

dear god man your name is Toyota Avensis wtf are you getting on my back for?

Have you ever owned a French car before 06?

As I stated there the cars you see on the side of the road with a load of smoke coming from the engine and all the new cars are ****e.

You have to plug it into a computer to find out whats wrong with them. 50 please. Ok hmmmmm it's not an injector after spending €100 on an injector to find out it wasn't an injector.

Lets check the loom.

Hmmmm not the loom what could it be?

Oh I know the timing belt's out a tooth!

Oh thank you mr vw.

Go back 10 years cars are bomb proof.

Japanese ones anyway the ones you see on donedeal today, not the 98 99 clios that are in the scrap yard.

Puntos, Polos and 306 even the 206 all ****e

I'm so sorry, I keep having to do this, many apologies. The writing it's all sh*te, just like the advice being given.

Hope you don't mind, everyone needs to be able to see the valuable advice on offer! :cool:

scottp68877

Im 18 now and on my first insurance. There's a list below of insurance companies that I got quotes off.
axa.ie
fbd.ie
devilquote.ie
Pat Britton insurance
Aviva
Hoperdolan
First Ireland
Crane crane insurance
Asgard
Willis
http://topquote.uat.site.mobi/site/modified-car-insurance

I got my insurance for 1000 with creane and creane so I would recommend them on a 1 litre polo. They also gave me a quote of 1300 for a golf tdi which is unbelievably cheap. If you have any lessons done make sure and mention it. Makes a massive difference to the price.

8loopy8

dgt wrote: »

I'm so sorry, I keep having to do this, many apologies. The writing it's all sh*te, just like the advice being given.

Hope you don't mind, everyone needs to be able to see the valuable advice on offer! :cool:

im sure when i get to 9000 and something posts like yourself dgt il be a well trained zombie and i can correct spellings like yourself cant wait for that day **** its never gona come .. spellings that you can clearly make out but your just tryna be an ass about which is cool thats just your way i dont really care man ill make sure to have plenty more for you to correct goodlad

Noccy_Mondy

scottp68877 wrote: »

I got my insurance for 1000 with creane and creane so I would recommend them on a 1 litre polo. They also gave me a quote of 1300 for a golf tdi which is unbelievably cheap. If you have any lessons done make sure and mention it. Makes a massive difference to the price.

Were them quotes as a named driver, or on your own and what type of cover? Just out of curiosity.

scottp68877

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Were them quotes as a named driver, or on your own and what type of cover? Just out of curiosity.

On my own name. Kind of hard to believe. Btw I have a full license but it's still cheap. It's just third party because that's the only policy they offer in cars under 98 I think. Car has to have NCT aswell.

dgt

8loopy8 wrote: »

I'm sure when I get to 9000 and something posts like yourself dgt I'll be a well trained zombie and I can correct spellings like yourself, can't wait for that day!

**** it's never gona come...

Spellings that you can clearly make out but your just trying be an ass about it which is cool that's just your way.

I dont really care man I'll make sure to have plenty more for you to correct goodlad

Why thank you young fella! You do care as you just replied to me :cool:

Of course I'm a zombie, would I be up at this time correcting mistakes otherwise? There's a sight of valuable advice ready to be unlocked and shared with the world from yourself my dear. I am an illusion of most people's minds. Think of me as a Google bot.

What's wrong with a bit of ass btw?

We can't have this valuable and informative information going to loss due to misinterpretation now can we?

You keep reaching for that rainbow and you can tell the teacher next week that a sad old c*nt off the internet was able to teach better punctuation then they ever could. That would be some achievement, imagine that!

Keep them coming, your basque of knowledge and advice must be shared for all to read and follow :cool:

Noccy_Mondy

You should become an English teacher dgt!

8loopy8

dgt wrote: »

Why thank you young fella! You do care as you just replied to me :cool:

Of course I'm a zombie, would I be up at this time correcting mistakes otherwise? There's a sight of valuable advice ready to be unlocked and shared with the world from yourself my dear. I am an illusion of most people's minds. Think of me as a Google bot.

What's wrong with a bit of ass btw?

We can't have this valuable and informative information going to loss due to misinterpretation now can we?

You keep reaching for that rainbow and you can tell the teacher next week that a sad old c*nt off the internet was able to teach better punctuation then they ever could. That would be some achievement, imagine that!

Keep them coming, your basque of knowledge and advice must be shared for all to read and follow :cool:

nah dont care just not being rude as you where adressing me personally with your fabulas work etic of correction of grammer keep up the good work

toyotaavensis

8loopy8 wrote: »

dear god man your name is toyota avensis wtf are u getting on my back for?

have u ever owned a french car before 06 as i stated there the cars you see on the side of the road with a loada smoke coming from the enginge . and all the new cars are ****e u have to plug it into a computer to find out whats wrong with them.. 50 please ... ok hmmmmm its not an injector after spending 100e an injector to find out it wasnt an injector lets check the loom hmmmm not the loom what could it be ohhh i know the timing belts out a tooth ... ohh thank you mr vw/ go back 10 years cars are bomb proof japanese ones anyway the ones you see on donedeal today not the 98 99 clios that are in the scrap yard puntos polos and 306 even the 206 all ****e

I am not getting on your back but a lad starting out is going car shopping soon and is looking for advice. This forum is generally a good place to get it. Posters like dgt, GeorgeDalton, Colm_mcmm, bazz and even Mad_lad amongst others are well versed in motors generally and can offer useful advice. You have taken over this thread talking rubbish. The OP cant get good advice as you are now the focus of the thread, And just so you know Fords, Mazda and Volvo use peugeot/citroen engines in their cars and renaults diesels are made by nissan. So does this mean fords, mazdas, volvos and nissans are all rubbish too? You really have a lot to learn.

8loopy8 wrote: »

im sure when i get to 9000 and something posts like yourself dgt il be a well trained zombie and i can correct spellings like yourself cant wait for that day **** its never gona come .. spellings that you can clearly make out but your just tryna be an ass about which is cool thats just your way i dont really care man ill make sure to have plenty more for you to correct goodlad

Maybe when you were in school you should have paid attention in English class. Perhaps you should just bother your arse to type your posts properly. A dyslexic monkey would do a better job at writing than you,

colm_mcm

Lads can we cut out the English lessons?
That said 8loopy8 - can you please try and type sentences as its very hard to make out what you're saying

Supergurrier

Good call on the festy 1.2

Buy something 2k Max until you are comfortable driving and have a year at least of ncb under your belt

EazyD

I'd also consider post 02 Mitsubishi Colt. Very underrated imo.

Dooley052

Could anyone post a list of the cars I should get or look at and I'll take a look at them all and choose.
I won't be a named driver, it's just going to be me insured on the car.
Thanks for all advice.