Greystones Harbour

JandS

Hi all,

A while back I was kayaking in the harbour (freezing in January I know),and I ventured into the area where the marina was and paddled around for a while.

A lovely gentleman from the marina walked over and asked me to leave as it was a private marina.

Now that is fair enough if I was on the marina itself, but I was only in the water and never went near any of the boats.

Is this correct? Is that entire section of the harbour private?

Thanks,

loyatemu

security I guess - if you're not allowed to just walk onto the pontoons (which you're not) then presumably you're not allowed approach from the water either.

Fiachra2

I would think the opposite. AFIK the sea is never private. You can be prevented form accessing it from the land and can be prevented from landing on a private beach (although I'm not even sure you can do that) but no one owns the sea so I would say the security person was not within his rights.

That said I wouldn't recommend kayaking in a marina when its busy (albeit that it would not have been so when you visited)

fat-tony

Bit of a security hole if random visitors were allowed to approach moored boats from the water side. The inner harbour is not exactly the high seas so I would expect that the marina operator is well within his rights to ask uninvited craft to leave.

Charlie-Bravo

Have the harbour byelaws been passed by the Town Council? Such as speeds which boats can go and once inside the harbour walls you are governed by the harbour bye laws such as restricted areas?

Maudi

JandS wrote: »

Hi all,

A while back I was kayaking in the harbour (freezing in January I know),and I ventured into the area where the marina was and paddled around for a while.

A lovely gentleman from the marina walked over and asked me to leave as it was a private marina.

Now that is fair enough if I was on the marina itself, but I was only in the water and never went near any of the boats.

Is this correct? Is that entire section of the harbour private?

Thanks,

Did he have a security uniform on or was he in civilian clothes? I mean..sure he could have been any auld loo la..did he identify himself? Im not sure that place even has a valid licenc..i know what ida told him....

JandS

hi again,

I wasnt going near the boats, I was just paddling around the circumference.

Seems very strange to me that an entire section of harbour can be private, fair enough for the berths.

regarding uniform as far as I can remember, he was wearing a grey jacket with the marina logo on it.

Where can I find this out? I'd love to:

a) be right
b) rub it in his yachty face

Thanks

loyatemu

was it this guy?

Zebbedee

I would have suggested he take a long walk off a short pier

bido

Typical just shows what has happened to the harbour where everyone could walk around . Now there is a section for the well off and the rest of us can walk in the other parts.

Huntthe

The State owns the water tell him to go away in what ever manner grabs you.

loyatemu

Huntthe wrote: »

The State owns the water tell him to go away in what ever manner grabs you.

is that your legal opinion? So I can kayak into Dublin Port if the fancy takes me?

Charlie-Bravo

I believe in any port or harbour once there are byelaws in force you are bound by those. It's still not clear to me if the byelaws have been passed at council level??!

Huntthe

loyatemu wrote: »

is that your legal opinion? So I can kayak into Dublin Port if the fancy takes me?

That's the law of the land.

pixbyjohn

Huntthe wrote: »

That's the law of the land.

But is it the law of the sea? :eek: joke

loyatemu

pixbyjohn wrote: »

But is it the law of the sea? :eek: joke

Arr, I hate the sea and everything in it

Tabnabs

loyatemu wrote: »

is that your legal opinion? So I can kayak into Dublin Port if the fancy takes me?

Yes

Attention is also drawn to the fact that small boats sailing, rowing or proceeding underpower within the limits of the Harbour are strictly required to keep out of the fairway channel.

and

All private or leisure craft are prohibited from entering or approaching any of the basins, berths or jetties within the port

No...