BVD samples postage cost

valtraman

To post BVD samples , I have been informed that up to 10 samples posted together now cost €1.05 and that if not covered by the correct postage An Post will not deliver and probably dump them. Relevant authorities are supposed to have sent texts to farmers .I heard nothing until a friend stopped me posting at 60 cent ,anyone else hear

vanderbadger

valtraman wrote: »

To post BVD samples , I have been informed that up to 10 samples posted together now cost €1.05 and that if not covered by the correct postage An Post will not deliver and probably dump them. Relevant authorities are supposed to have sent texts to farmers .I heard nothing until a friend stopped me posting at 60 cent ,anyone else hear

got text from enfer yesterday about it, so even if you send 1 or 2 samples now you still need to pay 1.05?
bit of a rip off if thats the case

biddy2013

vanderbadger wrote: »

got text from enfer yesterday about it, so even if you send 1 or 2 samples now you still need to pay 1.05?
bit of a rip off if thats the case

i didnt get that text so it mustnt apply to me:D

farmerjj

I still send them off with a 60cent stamp,and no problems!!

mickdw

Got a text but how can it cost 1.05 for 1 sample?

biddy2013

farmerjj wrote: »

I still send them off with a 60cent stamp,and no problems!!

Wasn't there someone on here last year that never put any stamp on them and got on grand

hugo29

i never got that text either, i always used 60c stamp,

dont matter anyway. always post them from work;)

do people put the " exempt animal specimen" on the envelope

Stan 10

hugo29 wrote: »

i never got that text either, i always used 60c stamp,

dont matter anyway. always post them from work;)

do people put the " exempt animal specimen" on the envelope

I think if you use the Enfer supplied envelope you have to pay €1.05 but you could still get away with 60c in a ordinary envelope!

feartuath

Posted all my 12 this year in ones and twos using ordinary brown envelopes and 60 cent stamp.I use Enfer in Naas and got no text yet .
Got 2 to sent tomorrow though

hurling_lad

I'm pretty sure that An Post made some changes to their allowed envelope sizes this year that means that any letter thicker than 5mm is now classified as a large envelope so incurs the €1.05 charge.
I haven't got my vernier callipers with me, but I'd say that the samples are at least 10mm thick.

LivInt20

From Animal Health Ireland website

News - Postage of BVD Samples

An Post have advised the minimum fee for submitting tags to the labs is €1.05 (up to 10 samples). Place samples in a sealable bag within a sturdy envelope. Ensure they are packed flat, rather than bulked up within the envelope. For larger numbers, it is advisable to take your package to the post office to ensure the correct postage is paid. Write your name, address and herd number on the top left hand corner of the envelope. An Post will return or dispose of underpaid envelopes.

I used 60c stamps in 2013 but will be using €1.05 in 2014.

It's a lot cheaper to use correct postage rather than ordering new tags and re-posting.

jt65

got 3 texts

arrabawn ahi and enfer

enfer posted out some pre addressed envelopes , very handy and strong

biddy2013

jt65 wrote: »

got 3 texts

arrabawn ahi and enfer

enfer posted out some pre addressed envelopes , very handy and strong

they are pre adressed but not prepaid, would be alot handier if address was enfer labs,po box ....., rather than having to write 6 or 7 lines and then your herd identifier and exempt animal specimen too

Farmer

mickdw wrote: »

Got a text but how can it cost 1.05 for 1 sample?

(RANT]

1. Because you have to do it
2. Because this is rip off Ireland

Anywhere else, a special discounted rate of less than the regular 60c would be negotiated (they 're mainly going to the same few addresses)

It's the same reasons why I must pay €80 p.a to a private waste collector BEFORE I even begin to pay for a single kilo of waste (but that's for another thread)

{/RANT]

Sorry!

grazeaway

For the €1.05 rate the letter is classed as a large letter by an post.

I have used a 60 cent stamp and haven't had any issues.

See below from an post

What Are You Sending Details

Once your item's dimensions or weight exceeds the limits of any category it automatically moves to the next category of mail.
Letter/Postcard
Limits
The Letter/Postcard rate of postage caters for items no larger than C5 in size (i.e. the size of an envelope containing a folded A4 sheet of standard paper).
Dimensions:
Minimum: Length 140mm; Width 90mm; Depth 0.18mm
(with a tolerance of 2mm)

Maximum: Length 235mm; Width162mm; Depth 5mm
Weight:
Items which qualify for the Letter/Postcard rate of postage must weigh no more than 100g.
If you cannot fold your items to fit this size, or they are bigger or heavier than the maximum size and weight limits, they may be classed as large envelope, packet or parcel items.
Return to summary page ...
Large Envelope
Limits
The Large Envelope rate of postage caters for flat items, such as an A4 sheet of standard paper, no larger than the maximum dimensions below and weighing no more than 500g.
Dimensions:
Minimum: Length 140mm; Width 90mm; Depth 0.18mm
(with a tolerance of 2mm)

Maximum: Length 400mm; Width 300mm; Depth 25mm
Weight:
Items which qualify for the Large Envelope rate of postage must weigh no more than 500g.
If you cannot fold your items to fit this size, or they are bigger or heavier than the maximum size and weight limits, they may be classed as packet or parcel items.
Return to summary page ...
Packet
Limits
The Packet rate of postage caters for items within the following
dimensions.
Dimensions:
Minimum dimensions: 100mm(L) X 70mm(H) X 25mm(D).
Maximum dimensions: for a packet are a combined length, height and depth of 900mm. No individual dimension can exceed 600mm, with a tolerance of 2mm.
In tube form the maximum dimensions are the length plus twice the diameter 1,040mm with no one dimension exceeding 900mm, with a tolerance of 2mm.
Weight:
Items which qualify for the Packet rate of postage must weigh no more than 2kg.

Items that are bigger or heavier than the maximum size and weight limits of a Packet will be classed as a Parcel.
Return to summary page ...
Parcel
The Parcel rate of postage caters for items up to the following size dimensions and is subject to a physical & dimensional weight limit of 20kg.
Dimensions
Maximum dimensions:
Length: 1.5 metres
Length: + Girth 3 metres

To calculate the Girth: 2 x (Depth + Width)
Weight
The maximum weight limit per item is 20kg.
Sometimes, large items with a light overall weight - such as a box of pillows - can be charged according to their Dimensional Weight. This reflects the additional cost of transporting light but sizeable items. It is recommended that you calculate the Dimensional Weight for every shipment that you send, then compare this to its actual weight. The greater weight of the two is used to work out the price that we charge you.

To calculate the Dimensional Weight:
(L x W x D) / 6,000

L = Length in centimetres
W = Width in centimetres
D = Depth in centimetres

Example:
A 10kg item, which is 62cm long, 49cm in width and 39cm in depth will have a Dimensional Weight of:

(62x49x39)/6000 = 19.75 which is rounded up to 20 giving you a Dimensional weight of 20kg.

Stan 10

Was talking to lady in Enfer Lab today and she told me this is a new rule brought in my An Post, which states you have to put €1.05 stamp on envelope no matter what size it is.

She said it was not about size or weight but it was the bulk of the envelope and they had to be treated differently. So more cost to the poor farmer!

Bodacious

I got text too from enfer in naas.


I tagged a calf for an ole fella and he only had the one calf.. I had no chequebook on me to write a cheque for him.. in with the five euro note, his wife's mobile no. and no bother.


they were mad for new business last year and probably got stung by quiet a few on postage so preparing for it this year.


anyone ever try samples from 2 herdnumbers in one envelope for E1.05 or are am I asking for a mix up?!

Zr105

Bodacious wrote: »

I got text too from enfer in naas.


I tagged a calf for an ole fella and he only had the one calf.. I had no chequebook on me to write a cheque for him.. in with the five euro note, his wife's mobile no. and no bother.


they were mad for new business last year and probably got stung by quiet a few on postage so preparing for it this year.


anyone ever try samples from 2 herdnumbers in one envelope for E1.05 or are am I asking for a mix up?!

Says something about that on the check list on there website, as far as i can remember its ok once you specifically state how many from each herd no.

It would probably be a good idea get a small zip lock bag and stick all the ones belonging to a particular herd number into it along with a piece of paper stating herd no. And no. Of samples. That way there all seperate for them like

biddy2013

Bodacious wrote: »

I got text too from enfer in naas.


I tagged a calf for an ole fella and he only had the one calf.. I had no chequebook on me to write a cheque for him.. in with the five euro note, his wife's mobile no. and no bother.


they were mad for new business last year and probably got stung by quiet a few on postage so preparing for it this year.


anyone ever try samples from 2 herdnumbers in one envelope for E1.05 or are am I asking for a mix up?!

i have sent samples from 2 herds, i put them in seperate bags in the envelope with a piece of paper in each stating what herd and how many samples, also write it on envelope, no problems

larthehar

What I will say is make it 1.05 and make it bulky... otherwise it may get into a postal machine but it won't get out and you will have to buy a new tag and take the sample (s) again..

Bodacious

after all the texts didn't I whack off 4 no. samples in post 7am mon morning in enfer supplied letter and never attached the two stamps on front seat of jeep, had a few things to post and was rushing and half asleep.


rang them there but they reckon An Post are clamping down since Mar 01st severely on the E1.05.. they will confiscate my samples for sure, make an example of my sample:-(

hugo29

Bodacious wrote: »

after all the texts didn't I whack off 4 no. samples in post 7am mon morning in enfer supplied letter and never attached the two stamps on front seat of jeep, had a few things to post and was rushing and half asleep.


rang them there but they reckon An Post are clamping down since Mar 01st severely on the E1.05.. they will confiscate my samples for sure, make an example of my sample:-(

all may not be lost, go to your local sorting office, chance are its there, they may post it anyway and ask Enfer to cover the cost
its always a good idea to put return address on envelopes

Bodacious

hugo29 wrote: »

all may not be lost, go to your local sorting office, chance are its there, they may post it anyway and ask Enfer to cover the cost
its always a good idea to put return address on envelopes

Cheers Hugo,


ill await to see if they have it in today's mail @enfer (he ringing me back in a bit)


failing that ill get onto local post office and see where its at.. I put nothing on back and only my herd identifier on front

Bodacious

Bodacious wrote: »

Cheers Hugo,


ill await to see if they have it in today's mail @enfer (he ringing me back in a bit)


failing that ill get onto local post office and see where its at.. I put nothing on back and only my herd identifier on front

I wouldn't advise it but my samples went the whole way in one day without any flipping stamp on them..

moy83

Bodacious wrote: »

I wouldn't advise it but my samples went the whole way in one day without any flipping stamp on them..

Nice one ! This 1.05 to post even a single sample is robbery . You would think the labs could get a concession price if they looked after all the postage and passed the price on when we are paying for the test

Round Bale

moy83 wrote: »

Nice one ! This 1.05 to post even a single sample is robbery . You would think the labs could get a concession price if they looked after all the postage and passed the price on when we are paying for the test

Google "salary of Donal Connell, CEO An Post":cool: Then you will understand why they need to charge €1.05 to post a stamp.

novice farmer

got back my sample today with yellow sticker on it saying not enough postage and the sample. is 5 days old now prob need to re do it , and a lovely stamp saying 60 cent stamp is now void, i stuck 3 60 cent stamps on it cause I got vexed and posted it but whats the maximum sell by date on them?

whelan2

novice farmer wrote: »

got back my sample today with yellow sticker on it saying not enough postage and the sample. is 5 days old now prob need to re do it , and a lovely stamp saying 60 cent stamp is now void, i stuck 3 60 cent stamps on it cause I got vexed and posted it but whats the maximum sell by date on them?

should be ok, i put samples through the washing machine and they where fine

novice farmer

whelan2 wrote: »

should be ok, i put samples through the washing machine and they where fine

that'd wash the bvd out of it

whelan2

novice farmer wrote: »

that'd wash the bvd out of it

Daz whites:D

moy83

novice farmer wrote: »

that'd wash the bvd out of it

If that works I'll wash all mine first

Two of ours were nearly a month old when I stuck them in with a few newer ones in the envelope , they were sound . Ill probably keep pushing the time I keep them for out of meanness so ill let ye know whenever they send an expired one back to me

whelan2

moy83 wrote: »

If that works I'll wash all mine first

Two of ours were nearly a month old when I stuck them in with a few newer ones in the envelope , they were sound . Ill probably keep pushing the time I keep them for out of meanness so ill let ye know whenever they send an expired one back to me

ye i have 1 sample sitting on the kitchen window this week, waiting for a few more to go with it

LivInt20

Lads and Lassies be aware of the T & Cs of Beef Genomics Scheme 2014

BVD PI calves must be removed from a farm in order to remain eligible for the Beef Genomics Scheme.

Extracts from the BGS terms and conditions are copied below. Trying to save 60c on postage is going to cost you a lot more in the long run. Pennies wise and pound foolish comes to mind!!

An “eligible beef breed calf” shall mean a calf which: Has had BVD samples sent to the laboratory within 27 days of birth.

6. All animals with a current positive or inconclusive BVD test result must be removed to the knackery and have a date of death recorded on the Animal Identification Movement (AIM) system within 7 weeks of the date of the initial test in order to be eligible for aid under this programme.

Animals born prior to 20 February with a current positive or inconclusive BVD
test result must be removed to the knackery and have a date of death recorded on the Animal Identification Movement (AIM) system before 11 April 2014.

Pending removal, the infected animal(s), should be strictly isolated to avoid further transmission to other susceptible animals, particularly breeding stock.

Please note that under a separate measure, payment of €100 will be made for
the second and subsequent BVD PI calf where all of the requirements regarding testing and removal have been met.