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Bill Cullen - Ssangyoung - New Business

  • 16-02-2014 10:34am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭


    Just interested in hearing what people think about Bill Cullen being back in business. I know a lot of people don't like Bill mainly due to his attitude but I am one that actually likes Bill and thinks he is a very smart and good business man.

    I see he has got a franchise from Ssangyoung and has reopened a garage on the Naas road. Like him or not I think this shows a lot of business people / entreprenuers that even if your business fails and you hit rock bottom, you can still gather yourself together and get back up fighting.

    I remember a lot of reports when Bill was starting to loose everything people said ah look at him now and ran him into the ground and kept saying he would never get back up. It looks like he has got back up and is rebuilding himself.

    I would like to wish Bill all the best and would love to see his new motor company grow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 jj58


    Just interested in hearing what people think about Bill Cullen being back in business. I know a lot of people don't like Bill mainly due to his attitude but I am one that actually likes Bill and thinks he is a very smart and good business man.

    I see he has got a franchise from Ssangyoung and has reopened a garage on the Naas road. Like him or not I think this shows a lot of business people / entreprenuers that even if your business fails and you hit rock bottom, you can still gather yourself together and get back up fighting.

    I remember a lot of reports when Bill was starting to loose everything people said ah look at him now and ran him into the ground and kept saying he would never get back up. It looks like he has got back up and is rebuilding himself.

    I would like to wish Bill all the best and would love to see his new motor company grow.

    Rock k bottom.? He still had loadz of casb to set up again. That's how he got set up again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭highlandseoghan


    I don't believe he had loads of cash ye he might have had some but I think he borrowed money from family and friends to get back up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    I think you are right, best of luck to Bill. Our countries attitude is if you fail once, thats it, you are a failure!
    Most other countries look at a business failure as a lesson to learn from, dust yourself down and get going again, just try not to make the same mistakes again.
    Good luck Bill, hope it works out well for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    I don't believe he had loads of cash ye he might have had some but I think he borrowed money from family and friends to get back up.

    That's what they all say. He can hardly say, "well actually we had €XXXXXXX stashed here and there over the years so the receivers wouldn't get it"

    Fair play to him for taking it on again when in his 70's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭debabyjesus




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭zetalambda


    Just interested in hearing what people think about Bill Cullen being back in business. I know a lot of people don't like Bill mainly due to his attitude but I am one that actually likes Bill and thinks he is a very smart and good business man.

    I see he has got a franchise from Ssangyoung and has reopened a garage on the Naas road. Like him or not I think this shows a lot of business people / entreprenuers that even if your business fails and you hit rock bottom, you can still gather yourself together and get back up fighting.

    I remember a lot of reports when Bill was starting to loose everything people said ah look at him now and ran him into the ground and kept saying he would never get back up. It looks like he has got back up and is rebuilding himself.

    I would like to wish Bill all the best and would love to see his new motor company grow.
    What's not to like about Bill Cullen and his attitude. Never understood why so many people dislike him. It's the typical Irish begrudgery thing. If you're successful in this country, people take aim and wait for their chance to take a shot at you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    zetalambda wrote: »
    If you're successful in this country, people take aim and wait for their chance to take a shot at you.

    +1. And most of the people who take a shot at Cullen would work less hours and take less risk and not work as hard as Cullen, in all fairness to him. I think its sad to see someone being passionate and entrepreneurial and extremely hard working, and yet having to start over at the age of 72 ( he was born in '42 I think ). Reports say he paid 14 million in tax in his lifetime, now he has nothing and is entitled to nothing.
    Yet we see some people froim the government and quangos and banks walk off with massive pensions after only a few years "service". Ex county managers even get a pension of 70k a year plus a big lump sum. Very uneven country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭Peterdalkey


    I am delighted to see him trying to get back on his feet. I admire his tenacity and courage to get back on the horse, but suspect that it was those same characteristics that got him to the heights he reached in the past. Winners never quit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭sparksfly


    He is a car salesman like many others. Some survive, some fail. They give employment but import industries overall don't generate wealth. He has an attitude that exceeds his abilities that gets up some peoples noses. That's it really from my perspective


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    Having lived around the world the begrudgery thing is not an Irish trait, as far as I can see its everywhere. Its more if you put yourself out there people like to tear you down if they can get a chance. Id say its water off a ducks back to Bill either way.

    A lot of a respect for a guy who can start again at 70


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Dis people get sung for money when he went out of business?
    If so, it is quite sickening that he would be able to finance a main dealer outlet. They obviously have some cash hidden away and the family and friends story is bull****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    why did he open a few yards down the road from a same brand dealership, why did the brand make allow this, its not as if the make is a minor player even, the number of units the brand sell is rather small, talk a little sense folks, this thread looks like both a publicity stunt, plus a shot at making cullen a candidate for sainthood, my farthings worth folks.


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    mickdw wrote: »
    Dis people get sung for money when he went out of business?
    If so, it is quite sickening that he would be able to finance a main dealer outlet. They obviously have some cash hidden away and the family and friends story is bull****.

    He owed money to banks and they foreclosed on him as far as I know. I hope he owed them billions, and when he gets back on his feet making a few quid he will laugh at them as he makes his deposits :pac: "Thanks Lads!"


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I normally hate begrudgery and I think its an awful thing in Ireland - but in the case of Bill Cullen I had no sympathy when I heard his business went under. The way he used to go on especially referring to Ireland's youth was ridiculous and patronising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    jj58 wrote: »
    Rock k bottom.? He still had loadz of casb to set up again. That's how he got set up again

    Sure the lads had a whip round for him.best of luck to him anyway.can't have been easy to start again


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    flutered wrote: »
    why did he open a few yards down the road from a same brand dealership, why did the brand make allow this, its not as if the make is a minor player even, the number of units the brand sell is rather small, talk a little sense folks, this thread looks like both a publicity stunt, plus a shot at making cullen a candidate for sainthood, my farthings worth folks.

    Have no idea whether his new business is a good idea or not. Seems like a tough one to be honest. Not exactly a thing of beauty the cars he is trying to sell.

    But this is an entrepreneur forum, and I applaud anyone who goes bankrupt and has the balls and energy to start it all again, especially a pensioner! No calls for sainthood whatsoever, just cudos to his entrepreneurial spirit. Any business person here love or hate Bill can learn something from his kind of attitude.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    He owed money to banks and they foreclosed on him as far as I know. I hope he owed them billions, and when he gets back on his feet making a few quid he will laugh at them as he makes his deposits :pac: "Thanks Lads!"

    Meanwhile you'll be paying back the bank on his behalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Nixer Jim


    Don't know if any of you saw the two of them on yesterday's Saturday Night Show but all I can say is we're only getting one half of the story.

    As regards the man himself. At heart, I think he's really a good guy and from those I spoke to who know him, they all say that's exactly what he is, a properly good bloke.

    It's the bullish!t though, I just can't stand the bullish!t. Up every morning at ten to two or something, 40,000 press ups a day, trials with United was somewhere in the book. Christ if he did everything he was supposed to have them he'd be a 107 year old - Iron Man Champion - Billionaire.

    Good luck Bill, hope you make it. Less of bullsh!t please and a touch more humility. I don't see you working for nothing, don't expect others to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    What does the wife do?
    She strikes me as wearing the trousers there?


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    Meanwhile you'll be paying back the bank on his behalf.

    Well Im not in the country so its not the case.

    But if I was its hardly Bills fault our banks needed a bail out is it? Plenty of other things led to that debacle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭lucky john


    I bought his second book to read a few years ago. Read a few chapters and binned it. Looking in the mirror at 4am and tell yourself how fantastic you are was a bit to cringe for my liking.

    Apart from that I have great admiration for Bill. No matter what you say about him he walks the walk.

    The reason the bankruptcy law here have been reformed lately is to give people like Bill Cullen the chance to start again and not sit sulking and feeling sorry for themselves for years. I hope the likes of Sean Quinn does the same thing some day as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭EIREHotspur


    Nixer Jim wrote: »
    As regards the man himself. At heart, I think he's really a good guy and from those I spoke to who know him, they all say that's exactly what he is, a properly good bloke.

    It's the bullish!t though, I just can't stand the bullish!t. Up every morning at ten to two or something, 40,000 press ups a day, trials with United was somewhere in the book. Christ if he did everything he was supposed to have them he'd be a 107 year old - Iron Man Champion - Billionaire.

    Good luck Bill, hope you make it. Less of bullsh!t please and a touch more humility. I don't see you working for nothing, don't expect others to do the same.

    Best post I seen in a long while.......Balanced!!!

    I just think people who are successful get away too much with the retelling of the hard luck story on the way up.
    You will never hear an interviewer say to them "well the growing up and selling apples on Moore Street from a pram at age 11 months when you were teething is such a great story but Bill you now live in a mansion and fly a helicopter....the hard luck routine was decades ago... what is it like to be Rich now?".


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    Best post I seen in a long while.......Balanced!!!

    I just think people who are successful get away too much with the retelling of the hard luck story on the way up.
    You will never hear an interviewer say to them "well the growing up and selling apples on Moore Street from a pram at age 11 months when you were teething is such a great story but Bill you now live in a mansion and fly a helicopter....the hard luck routine was decades ago... what is it like to be Rich now?".

    All the bluff and bluster is just marketing though really. Possibly from the Ryanair school of thought some of it, ie. any publicity is good publicity. Trump is the most glaring example of this, even going back to the eighties he was always outspoken and we'll say 'controversial' in the press. But that very PR style is what got him the Apprentice gig, something he gets $6m bucks an episode for or something in that region. Probably what kept him going during his various skirts with bankruptcy! He created a business out of his personality, Bill did something similar, to sell his books and get his own apprentice gig. Quite clever I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭EIREHotspur


    All the bluff and bluster is just marketing though really. Possibly from the Ryanair school of thought some of it, ie. any publicity is good publicity. Trump is the most glaring example of this, even going back to the eighties he was always outspoken and we'll say 'controversial' in the press. But that very PR style is what got him the Apprentice gig, something he gets $6m bucks an episode for or something in that region. Probably what kept him going during his various skirts with bankruptcy! He created a business out of his personality, Bill did something similar, to sell his books and get his own apprentice gig. Quite clever I think.

    Your dead right on all of that.....it is very clever!!

    On Trump do you ever notice how he namedrops all the celebs he comes in contact with as "..a really good friend of mine".
    He once had a tip in one of his Books I read years ago which was "ring someone at lunchtime when you know they won't be in the office....that way you only have to spend 30 seconds to a minute on what might have been a 5 minute call".
    Really cynical.

    I do admire Bill for his up and at them attitude and I would say he is a nice guy...so more power to him!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Nixer Jim


    lucky john wrote: »
    I bought his second book to read a few years ago. Read a few chapters and binned it. Looking in the mirror at 4am and tell yourself how fantastic you are was a bit to cringe for my liking.

    Apart from that I have great admiration for Bill. No matter what you say about him he walks the walk.

    The reason the bankruptcy law here have been reformed lately is to give people like Bill Cullen the chance to start again and not sit sulking and feeling sorry for themselves for years. I hope the likes of Sean Quinn does the same thing some day as well.


    Good luck to Bill. All he did was bust a company. Quinn on the other hand crys the poor mouth despite being minted. His crime wasn't to bust a company, he busted a country. Don't mind their "we could trade outta this" rhetoric. They should be in prison fir the contempt they showed with their position of control within a company. More so their utter contempt they're showing us as a people now is disgusting. Honour your debts, you took the chance and by god it went tits up. The rest of us are paying for it now while he runs from the law with millions in stashed assets. Hanging is too good imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭lucky john


    Nixer Jim wrote: »
    Good luck to Bill. All he did was bust a company. Quinn on the other hand crys the poor mouth despite being minted. His crime wasn't to bust a company, he busted a country. Don't mind their "we could trade outta this" rhetoric. They should be in prison fir the contempt they showed with their position of control within a company. More so their utter contempt they're showing us as a people now is disgusting. Honour your debts, you took the chance and by god it went tits up. The rest of us are paying for it now while he runs from the law with millions in stashed assets. Hanging is too good imo.

    Not going to disagree with you on your sentiments about Quinn. I read the ian Keogh book about him over Christmas and it make sorry reading. His obsession with Anglo and pure greed was his downfall. He did it to himself and is now playing the woe is me card and feeling sorry for himself. He badly needs to attend one of thoes meetings where he sits around in a circle and says "my name is Sean Quinn and I'm a greedy b**** ".

    However, hanging him won't get taxpayers money back. If he would just "hold his hands up" for real this time, admit his faults, and like Cullen set about changing his legacy he (and us) would benefit from his undoubted qualities as a business man. Don't forget thousands of jobs still exist because of him. There's no reason why he couldn't make amends by adding more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Only ever heard a variety of negative stories about Bill and Jackie in Killarney; I literally never heard anyone who had any sort of dealings with them say anything positive about them, even including some of the most mild-mannered individuals I know.

    However even more than the various negative different stories, the fact that they managed to lose over €10m on the whole hotel escapade is mind-boggling to people in Killarney especially people connected to the hospitality trade.

    Anyone I've ever talked to regarding this (including people who worked there) agrees that with it's location if you had anyone half capable running it, it should be a goldmine. It's no wonder that there are a host of interested parties lining up to take it over.

    Listening to one of their staff explaining how inept they were and the litany of just awful decisions they made day after day and how awful they were to staff (in an industry where working conditions aren't the greatest to start with), I've massive difficulty reconciling the PR image of Bill and Jackie as being intelligent operators and hard workers to the countless off-the-record stories I've heard.

    Also it wasn't just the banks that were left owed money. Bill and Jackie stung a fair few businesses too before word got out.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Zascar wrote: »
    I normally hate begrudgery and I think its an awful thing in Ireland - but in the case of Bill Cullen I had no sympathy when I heard his business went under. The way he used to go on especially referring to Ireland's youth was ridiculous and patronising.

    Yeah, this is what I was going to say. Fair play to him for trying to be an entrepreneur, but I've read things over the years where he comes across as very arrogant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    Only ever heard a variety of negative stories about Bill and Jackie in Killarney; I literally never heard anyone who had any sort of dealings with them say anything positive about them, even including some of the most mild-mannered individuals I know.

    However even more than the various negative different stories, the fact that they managed to lose over €10m on the whole hotel escapade is mind-boggling to people in Killarney especially people connected to the hospitality trade.

    Anyone I've ever talked to regarding this (including people who worked there) agrees that with it's location if you had anyone half capable running it, it should be a goldmine. It's no wonder that there are a host of interested parties lining up to take it over.

    Listening to one of their staff explaining how inept they were and the litany of just awful decisions they made day after day and how awful they were to staff (in an industry where working conditions aren't the greatest to start with), I've massive difficulty reconciling the PR image of Bill and Jackie as being intelligent operators and hard workers to the countless off-the-record stories I've heard.

    Also it wasn't just the banks that were left owed money. Bill and Jackie stung a fair few businesses too before word got out.

    I think this can happen when you move away from your core business, it always seemed to me that it was a case of "oh look that sector is doing well lets jump in there"

    When people do that they take the model that works with them in their existing business and try to apply it there, you can probably put car sales reps under lots of pressure, but you cannot apply the same type of pressure to someone who is taking hotel bookings etc.

    I found him a pain in the ass in the last few years of the tiger with the endless press but I'd never wish a venture of fail on anyone, as there is more than just his livelihood at sake once he starts employing people


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    The guy stung the banks and local businesses for millions and is able to walk away from it and set up again debt free. How is that ever right?


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    Does anyone know the real story in terms of him stinging local business? Was there a liquidation and a list of creditors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    Does anyone know the real story in terms of him stinging local business? Was there a liquidation and a list of creditors?

    A receiver took over the hotel. I don't believe there has been a liquidation. So as far as suppliers go, it should be business as usual. I believe Cullen owned half the hotel personally. So I don't know how that affects things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭Peterdalkey


    Interesting to note the general difference in response from people actually in business and those who are not!

    It is clear, to me at least, that we remain to a significant degree, a nation where to fail in business is simply unacceptable and you are to be decried all the more if you had a public profile. There is a huge difference between "honest failure" and dishonest behaviour in business, as in any aspect of life, but when it comes to business and enterprise, the gombeen men like to lump them all together, as it suits their purpose.

    Clearly these same gombeen men do not hold their politicians and regulators, who were actually very handsomely paid to do their jobs in an honest, professional and competent manner on behalf of the citizens, to the same standards. Rather we allow them to sail off into the sunset with lump sums, gold plated pensions, never having to account for their failures and dereliction of duty to us. Perhaps we really do get what we deserve for our own incompetence, with ignorant use of our votes. One only has to look at the make up of our houses of the Oireachtas to see a complete imbalance of skills and talents that in no way represents that of the citizenry... teachers, lawyers and former bearded brethren but uniquely the gombeen men are there in abundance., outnumbering the few good souls by a great majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    DubTony wrote: »
    A receiver took over the hotel. I don't believe there has been a liquidation. So as far as suppliers go, it should be business as usual. I believe Cullen owned half the hotel personally. So I don't know how that affects things.

    I would imagine that the list of suppliers to the hotel who had given them credit any time recently (within the last 5 years) would be close to zero.

    The fact that they were running the electricity in the hotel off a generator for a very long period of time says a whole lot about their utter refusal to pay what they owed.[How many businesses have you ever heard continuing to operate after their electricity supplier cut them off?] Overall it really sounded that Bill was trying to create a real life Fawlty Hotels the way they carried on.

    People constantly seem to mention the whole job creation aspect - the fact that they were terrible employers never seems to get mentioned - staff turnover in the hospitality business is much higher than in other sectors but even still the staff turnover in the hotel was just ridiculous by all accounts.

    It wasn't just in the hotel business itself that the Cullens adopted a terrible attitude in relation to paying - they also stung a couple of suppliers in relation to works on their house. It's one thing to not be able to pay ; it's a whole different kettle of fish to adopt an approach of won't pay unless we are forced and we have dragged things out as long as possible and made the whole process as painful as possible. Having this as your standard approach while getting up on your high horse and lecturing people about hard work in the media takes a race meeting's worth of jockeys bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    I don't know anything about his paying up habits, but I do know he was a bit of a **** to work for. One of his top people in Renault (a friend of my father) used to work for a different marque at an extremely high level. Cullen treated him, and other senior employees, like crap, expecting 70+ hours a week and calling them at home at all sorts of strange hours. My old man told me that he said it was the worst move he ever made. From what I can gather, Cullen doesn't value his employees in a way that one might expect, but apparently micro manages them, despite their qualifications and experience.
    I don't personally believe that these are the characteristics of a great business person, but if they are, it seems Bill Cullen is amongst the best. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    It is clear, to me at least, that we remain to a significant degree, a nation where to fail in business is simply unacceptable and you are to be decried all the more if you had a public profile. There is a huge difference between "honest failure" and dishonest behaviour in business, as in any aspect of life, but when it comes to business and enterprise, the gombeen men like to lump them all together, as it suits their purpose.

    I didn't even like him when he successful in business. He comes across as a complete arséhole; coming out with stuff like "push", "push", "keep pushing yars selfs" " I get a 4am and I go to bed at 2am" "I stated as a poor lad in the market stall selling apples".

    The last time Cullen was on The Late Late, the new dragon Ramona Nicholas was sitting next to the gloating Bill, and didn't make eye contact with him for the duration of the interview. It was embarrassing to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    All the bluff and bluster is just marketing though really. Possibly from the Ryanair school of thought some of it, ie. any publicity is good publicity. Trump is the most glaring example of this, even going back to the eighties he was always outspoken and we'll say 'controversial' in the press. But that very PR style is what got him the Apprentice gig, something he gets $6m bucks an episode for or something in that region. Probably what kept him going during his various skirts with bankruptcy! He created a business out of his personality, Bill did something similar, to sell his books and get his own apprentice gig. Quite clever I think.

    $6m an episode? I seriously doubt that.

    He is insufferable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    The fact that they were running the electricity in the hotel off a generator for a very long period of time says a whole lot about their utter refusal to pay what they owed.[How many businesses have you ever heard continuing to operate after their electricity supplier cut them off?].
    I am not sure of the details etc associated with this, but many hotels with leisure centre would have combined heat and power (CHP) generators that produce electricity and use the heat from the generation of electricity to heat hot water and depending on the setup it could possibly work for the heating system too. Nothing uncommon about it, would be common set up in hotels, some colleges and public buildings, lots of places really.

    As I said im not sure on the backstory but this may be why people thought they were running generator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    The last time Cullen was on The Late Late, the new dragon Ramona Nicholas was sitting next to the gloating Bill, and didn't make eye contact with him for the duration of the interview. It was embarrassing to watch.

    'Cos that young one knows she is not fit to walk in his shadow. Pharmacies in this country are a protected little cartel. Boots make a profit per shop of 1 million a year in this country. The prescriptions arte ten times more expensive in Bundoran than in Fermanagh , and the government protects this cartel and funds it through the medical card.

    At least Cullen competes with real competition, and knows what competition and graft is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    maryishere wrote: »
    'Cos that young one knows she is not fit to walk in his shadow. Pharmacies in this country are a protected little cartel. Boots make a profit per shop of 1 million a year in this country. The prescriptions arte ten times more expensive in Bundoran than in Fermanagh , and the government protects this cartel and funds it through the medical card.

    At least Cullen competes with real competition, and knows what competition and graft is.

    My local town is awash with pharmacists, many of them trying desperately to compete with the like of Boots, after they significantly cut their prescription medicines prices in 2012 (as much as 25%).

    One in four pharmacies in Ireland actually operate at a loss.

    Anyway, I much prefer Ramona Nicholas than the likes of the smug Cullen. The same goes for the rest of the Dragons' - they come across as very genuine and down-to-earth. Bobby Kerr's Newstalk show is also excellent, and he's nice enough to give me retweets for my business now and then. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    My local town is awash with pharmacists, many of them trying desperately to compete with the like of Boots, after they significantly cut their prescription medicines prices in 2012 (as much as 25%).

    One in four pharmacies in Ireland actually operate at a loss.

    Anyway, I much prefer Ramona Nicholas than the likes of the smug Cullen. The same goes for the rest of the Dragons' - they come across as very genuine and down-to-earth. Bobby Kerr's Newstalk show is also excellent, and he's nice enough to give me retweets for my business now and then. :)

    I like Bobby Kerr and the rest of the dragons. However I reckon the fact that pharmacies have such massive marks ups on prescriptions here is why the country is awash with them, and they all seem to be making money - never saw one going out of business yet. Boots make a million per year per shop here - not bad going;)
    Know someone who paid a tenner in Spain for whats €80 in an Irish pharmacy.


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    Our Year wrote: »
    $6m an episode? I seriously doubt that.

    He is insufferable.

    He claimed to be the highest paid reality star in the world, getting $130 mil for two seasons or something like that. Of course what trump says and whats true are often two different things...
    But watch out he's actually sued people for challenging him on what his total net worth is :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 TheGodfather1


    Hi I agree with you. I've read his two books and although he does blow his own trumpet a bit I have to say I think he backs it up. His attitude is amazing and to pick himself back up after all that he's been through and the death of his two siblings three weeks apart is commendable. I hope he does well with the Ssangyong dealership although I think it will be hard but no better Warrior!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 TheGodfather1


    Also I just saw a Parody account of Bill Cullen on Twitter kind of rips the piss out of him and his books.!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭Slaacer


    Didn't like him very much in the apprentice, he was trying to copy Alan sugar too much instead of being himself and then he didn't inspire me much confidence to work for him even then - Don't know much about his business and money he owes or left behind but if this is the case he should be made to pay up - if it was any of us we'd have the revenue and the sherif of Dublin on our doorstep - ridicilus people getting away with that cos we have to cough up the difference in our taxes.

    However I have to admire anyone who get up and start again after a failure. Having said this I won't be getting one of these cars from him simply cos I really don't like these cars anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Is bill actually on the floor of the dealership selling cars again?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭finix


    He could have picked a more volume driven brand than SSANGYONG ! They only do jeep type vehicles and sold 5 in Jan and 4 in Feb for the whole of Ireland ! cant see any money selling those yokes anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    finix wrote: »
    He could have picked a more volume driven brand than SSANGYONG ! They only do jeep type vehicles and sold 5 in Jan and 4 in Feb for the whole of Ireland ! cant see any money selling those yokes anyway.

    I'd say he was damn glad to take what he could get...
    In reality he's a second hand car sales man now... with a sperious brand name over the door..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭Peterdalkey




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