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Letting land and still claiming sfp?

  • 14-02-2014 4:53pm
    #1
    Qprmeath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭


    Is it legal?


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  • #2
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Its not illegal, just if you have an inspection and a bunch of other peoples cattle are found on your land, you will have some explaining to do.


  • #3
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    It is illegal or against the rules. To clain SFP you are supposed to be actively farming.


  • #4
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    You are correct, Pudsey. You will be dealing with the dept. Ag instead of the Gardaí.


  • #5
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Its common practise and there will be no change ,one of the pillars of the EU draft agreement was that entitlements would accrue to the person actually farming the land in 2015 but we have done the opposite allegedly to cool the rental market so we in reality have status quo instead of a genuine rental market in land


  • #6
    Qprmeath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    The story is, I have a field. A neighbour would take it to grow different crop than I grow. It would do the land good to have a change. Would not be making a fortune out of it. But if my sfp was affected would not be worth it. I know people who have technically "grown" crops for renters but not sure how that works.


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  • #7
    Qprmeath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    Its common practise and there will be no change ,one of the pillars of the EU draft agreement was that entitlements would accrue to the person actually farming the land in 2015 but we have done the opposite allegedly to cool the rental market so we in reality have status quo instead of a genuine rental market in land

    Do you mean letting land and claiming sfp is common practice? Has the new agreement changed anything? Do you think it is more risky now than before? I know plenty who have done it in the past with no problems.


  • #8
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Qprmeath wrote: »
    Do you mean letting land and claiming sfp is common practice? Has the new agreement changed anything? Do you think it is more risky now than before? I know plenty who have done it in the past with no problems.

    Any land I ever leased the payment stayed with the lessor contrary to the spirit of the reform where payments are meant to subsidise the lessee or the person actually farming the land, the hue and cry raised about land rental prices rising finished that idea .So we are back to square one .This is an area that requires further clarification and the Irish version of this reform may not pass with the commission .As to the risk if there was none before there will not be much in the future.


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