Crime and Punishment

Minigocko

Just an overall question- what are your opinions of crime and punishment? How should it be stopped? What can society do to decrease the level of crime in this country ?

The King of Moo

I'm against crime, and in favour of punishment.

El Weirdo

I barely got past the first chapter, tbh.

MadsL

Must.not....advocate....self.defensive.gun.ownership....aggghhh...

The Backwards Man

If people committed less crime there would be less crime. Less punishment too.

Amirani

Education primarily, prevention is better than cure.

Some individuals are clearly of danger to society and need to be imprisoned until they can show otherwise via a willingness to engage in rehabilitation and education. People who aren't of danger to the wider populous should be punished via fines and community service.

MadsL

Stop tolerating white collar crime and corruption, zero-tolerance for the level of political brown-enveloping seen in Ireland over the years.

Enough being enough etc.

mikom

Minigocko wrote: »

Just an overall question- what are your opinions of crime and punishment? How should it be stopped? What can society do to decrease the level of crime in this country ?

Stop criminalising cannabis user for a victimless crime.............. that's a start.

V.W.L 11

And there was me thinking people would be in favour of the spent convictions bill once enacted :rolleyes:

Karl Stein

It would take centuries of scumbaggery by common or garden criminals to rival the levels of harm caused by 'respectable' scumbags who've walked away from the rubble of their economic destruction with their golden parachutes, mansions and trust funds intact.

Washington Irving

Quite enjoyed it, bit grim but that's just Dostoyevsky I suppose.

Norma_Desmond

Washington Irving wrote: »

Quite enjoyed it, bit grim but that's just Dostoyevsky I suppose.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought of Dostoyevsky when reading the thread title

Lapin

I favour the 3 strikes Law OP.


My rational answer -

This fucker won't be stealing anymore pizza.



My After Hours answer -

Although if I'm gonna strike someone, I'll be damn sure to knock the bastard out on the first go.

stimpson

Washington Irving wrote: »

Quite enjoyed it, bit grim but that's just Dostoyevsky I suppose.

I see you're reading it again - there's a bookmark on page 7.

OP, you're going to need to give your own opinion on this before I decide this is homework and close the thread.

Holsten

Education and rehabilitation will curb lots of crime.

Crime cannot be stopped.

Punishment does nothing to stop crime.

Turtyturd

The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering it's prisons.

whupdedo

I would be in favour of a 3 strike rule (life imprisonment with NO chance of release) for serious crimes such as sexual assault, serious assault, manslaughter etc etc, also tougher prison environments ie no television, gym( i pay 480 per year for gym membership, but a prison inmate can enjoy the gym at taxpayers expense), pool tables. But also mandatory education and training in courses to improve the chances of employment upon release.

Sky King

Following the rights movement they clamped down with their iron fists and drugs became conveniently available for all the kids. (nearly 2 million americans are incarcerated in the prison system of the US).

They're trying to build a prison for you and me to live in OP.

Minigocko

I think the death penalty should be brought back into this country, those who Kill must be killed themselves, you may say it's tough but it would bring down murders and crime in this country

c_man

Deleted User wrote: »

OP, you're going to need to give your own opinion on this before I decide this is homework and close the thread.

:pac: Fu(k me, can you the poor teacher who would have to correct AH researched homework?!

catallus

Turtyturd wrote: »

The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering it's prisons.

Ugh, this is a sickening way to think.

hjkl

Minigocko wrote: »

I think the death penalty should be brought back into this country, those who Kill must be killed themselves, you may say it's tough but it would bring down murders and crime in this country

Yes because there is no crime in the US or China.

There is a reason only 1 first world country still has capital punishment, it doesn't work.

Holsten

Minigocko wrote: »

I think the death penalty should be brought back into this country, those who Kill must be killed themselves, you may say it's tough but it would bring down murders and crime in this country

You really think so? Then please explain to me why in countries where the death penalty is currently in use, e.g United States... the murder rates are not down? How come murder still happens? Even if people know they will be put to death if caught?

It has no affect on murder or crime rates whatsoever.

Sky King

frimpong wrote: »

it doesn't work.

Yes it does. They all totally died!

Lapin

Turtyturd wrote: »

The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering it's prisons.

Now thats Bollox.







(Don't write that in your essay OP)

sawdoubters

you don't want less crime,
insurance rates would go down,you would need less garda on the streets,you would need less court houses prisons and prison officers
people would not purchase new items,if theirs were not stolen,the government makes millions in fines and court costs


a lot of people would be out of work

DrumSteve

Awaits all of us to be quoted in the star tomorrow.

smurgen

I find it very hard to forgive those you abuse the young or old.I'd very nearly be in favour of the death penalty for those who abuse / harm either

Amirani

smurgen wrote: »

I find it very hard to forgive those you abuse the young or old.I'd very nearly be in favour of the death penalty for those who abuse / harm either

It's somehow not as bad to abuse anyone in the middle though? I don't get your logic?

NiallSparky

NiallSparky wrote: »

It's somehow not as bad to abuse anyone in the middle though? I don't get your logic?

I'm sure he means abusing the vulnerable, who are the ones who need protecting the most.

sopretty

Minigocko wrote: »

Just an overall question- what are your opinions of crime and punishment? How should it be stopped? What can society do to decrease the level of crime in this country ?

I personally feel that if you could stop crime, then you'd stop the need for punishment.

Arthur Beesley

Holsten wrote: »

Education and rehabilitation will curb lots of crime.

Crime cannot be stopped.

Punishment does nothing to stop crime.

Then the aim should be to keep habitual criminals off the streets so they can't offend. If that means death penalty or similar then perhaps that is the solution.

Holsten

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

Then the aim should be to keep habitual criminals off the streets so they can't offend. If that means death penalty or similar then perhaps that is the solution.

No, the aim is find out why they re-offend and try to stop it before it ever even happens in the first place.

Amirani

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm sure he means abusing the vulnerable, who are the ones who need protecting the most.

Everyone can be vulnerable if their attacker is significantly stronger than them, regardless of age.

I can see where the OP is coming from, but I don't see why there should be any difference in punishment for somebody who abuses a weaker person who is 50 and a weaker person who is 70.

crockholm

Holsten wrote: »

You really think so? Then please explain to me why in countries where the death penalty is currently in use, e.g United States... the murder rates are not down? How come murder still happens? Even if people know they will be put to death if caught?

It has no affect on murder or crime rates whatsoever.

Murder rates are down drastically in the US,especially the cities-In the early 90s New york saw over 2000 murders per year,LA with 1000+ and Chicago with a high of 970. in 2013 Chicago topped the list with 415,NY had 355 and LA had about 250.

I don't Think these can be attributed to the Death penalty however,rather a number of factors

Satriale

stimpson wrote: »

I see you're reading it again - there's a bookmark on page 7.

The punishment bit. It began to drag a bit there for me...

Crimsonred

Holsten wrote: »

Education and rehabilitation will curb lots of crime.

Crime cannot be stopped.

Punishment does nothing to stop crime.

Some folks don't want either to be educated or rehabilitated, and besides, education is freely available to all in this country.

The criminal doesn't live by the same logic as the rest of us, the notion of going to prison and having a record is not a concern to many of them I would imagine.

I do think we need harsher sentences for crimes involving the taking of a life, for example for manslaughter a mandatory sentence of 10 years and for murder 30 years.

smurgen

NiallSparky wrote: »

It's somehow not as bad to abuse anyone in the middle though? I don't get your logic?

You're right,it's not logical.I should be as outraged when any other innocent gets harmed but the idea of someone harming the defenceless has an emotional trigger for me.

Arthur Beesley

Holsten wrote: »

No, the aim is find out why they re-offend and try to stop it before it ever even happens in the first place.

Great, so that do we do with the current generations of criminals with 100 plus convictions? Do you think these guys can be rehabilitated?

Pumpkinseeds

Cut off their benefits and their hands, that'll teach em, oh and no more free legal aid, bring in a one time only free legal aid rule. I'm only half serious about cutting off their hands:D

Sir Arthur Daley

I’m really surprised how fast I got through this book and the fact that I really enjoyed this book even though I was warned time and time again that this was a very difficult book and not to expect to enjoy it. I’m a huge fan of a book that deals with the inner turmoil of a person especially in a macabre way. It reminded me so much of Markheim by Robert Louis Stevenson and makes me wonder if books like the Dexter series by Jeff Lindsey were influenced by this classic novel. I have a feeling that I will be thinking about this book for a long time and might have to reread it one day.

.jacksparrow.

Never had drugs or joyriders etc up north during the troubles.

Just saying....

Arthur Beesley

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Never had drugs or joyriders etc up north during the troubles.

Just saying....

There's a lot to be said for the RUC.