Evolve - 4v1 from the makers of L4D (multi format)

McSasquatch

So this could be gooood.

Turtle Rock and 2K games are working on Evolve, a 4v1 asymmetrical multiplayer co-op shooter (Turtle Rock Studios were the main peeps behind the first L4D). Except instead of zombies, there are hulking and powerful alien megafauna to be brought down. And yes, you can play as either the single creature or as one of the team of four human hunters. As RPS' preview informs, the devs say "each round is one long, rolling, unpredictable boss fight". It just so happens that the boss is controlled by a human player. Here's another hands-on preview (Eurogamer) which contains the below vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKdFwKueWXU

As you can see the visuals look pretty good, but this game will live or die by the balancing of the opposing sides - thankfully both previews claim that this aspect is shaping up pretty well so far. SP is included, but this is really crying out to be played with some buddies, especially the human team - the hunters have different classes, so each will have a different but equally important role.

I was a huge fan of the original L4D back in the day, and with the devs saying they've drawn influence from famous monster movies (the scene in Jackson's King Kong where the ape is captured on Skull island is mentioned as one source of inspiration), this is definitely one to watch.

In fact I'm gonna go so far as to say that THIS is the futuristic sci-fi co-op shooter with jetpacks that I'm most looking forward to.

Yeah, it has jetpacks.

jones

Looks awesome i'm going to keep an eye out for this!!!

McSasquatch

Better video here - same footage more or less but the journo describes/explains some of the game mechanics better than before. Must admit, very excited about this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFrZlEqMzLU

Big Knox

Can't wait for this, looks excellent!

Varik

I like asymmetric gameplay but it doesn't do all that well when it's competitive, most people just don't want to play as an individual on the weaker side. Not sure how this game will work in regards to reward but as soon as stats become an issue you have people just focused on themselves and accusation of unfair advantages and pay2win ( in some asymmetric f2p games).

Considering this has the lone player going from a disadvantage to being capable of wiping out the other side it might be fine, but people are self absorbed and self interested. Considering that you'll likely need teamwork to win as the hunters it's going to mean a lot of creature wins if it reaches the end stage.

McSasquatch

A couple of new hands-on previews from the last few days;

• Ars Technica.
  
  
• Shack News, which opens with this;

At the end of one match, Evolve had me shaking. At the end of five, I was utterly convinced: developer Turtle Rock has managed to create another game that will have the same legacy as Left 4 Dead.

jumbobreakfast

Sounds great, I played a ton of realism versus mode on left4dead 1 & 2 with my friends so it's looking like a must buy for me.

2Mad2BeMad

looks good but I can't help but feel this 4vs1 all the time could get repetitive
and I know for a fact that eventually either one or the other will be op

say the player who plays the monster is just terribly bad at the game, well then the 4 people attacking it are going to dominate him
same vice versa what happens if 2 of your teammates are very bad and don't bother with team work , the monster player will destroy us

hope I am wrong but I'll wait a week or two til after its out , probably watch some streams before I make a decision

jumbobreakfast

True but with 5 friends taking it in turns, it should be okay

tok9

I think this looks great. As a person who's never played L4D, I'm looking forward to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU90_1Sowfo

Varik

See a lot of rage about this game in the future, people not doing their job or blaming the others classes because they suck.

tok9

Oh ya definitely but it's one of those games where you will need friends playing.

calex71

tok9 wrote: »

Oh ya definitely but it's one of those games where you will need friends playing.

Very much so if my experiences with Left 4 Dead are anything to go by!!!!!!

Kiith

That looks excellent.

richymcdermott

Having been a huge fan of left 4 dead I am not surprised by what I have seen so far by the original creators on perhaps my favourite CO-OP game of all time.

Varik

calex71 wrote: »

Very much so if my experiences with Left 4 Dead are anything to go by!!!!!!

Considering how important the classes are, and that each class can only be played by 1 player and from what the devs have said this is going to be MMO esque in that if the healer goes down the team is following shortly after.

Overheal

This. Looks. Class.

Kiith

I'm assuming who controls the monster changes every round? It will probably suck if the monster is controlled by a terrible player (i.e. me).

Big Knox

With a few friends it'll be great fun!

Canis Lupus

As an old and cynical 33 year old that hasn't had his gaming excitement levels go past 'somewhat intrigued' for quite some time this looks flipping amazing.

paulnewman408

Seems like it could be a lot of fun with a group of friends

johnny_ultimate

Very encouraging video alright, nice to see a multiplayer game that focuses on long, tactical battles like that. Hadn't paid much heed to this before, but fingers crossed it will live up to its potential.

McSasquatch

Kiith wrote: »

I'm assuming who controls the monster changes every round? It will probably suck if the monster is controlled by a terrible player (i.e. me).

That's what I'm assuming too. And like yourself, I reckon I'll be terrible at controlling the monster - used to hate spawning as the Tank in L4D. SO MUCH PRESSURE!

calex71

Varik wrote: »

Considering how important the classes are, and that each class can only be played by 1 player and from what the devs have said this is going to be MMO esque in that if the healer goes down the team is following shortly after.

I think that has potential to work really for this game and push team work, even the random players will not be long getting that they need to play as a team to win after a few failed games ....... won't they

Kiith

I gave up in assuming pug's knew could pickup the basics of teamwork a long time ago.

Varik

From playing MMOs, if they's someone else that they can blame they will.

Then again this isn't an MMO and is competitive, the monster should be as likely to win as the 4 players. But from experience, the chance of the monster being played by a single good player is far more likely than 4 random people working together.

Duggy747

I can foresee the mountains of abuse from extremely angry and foulmouthed people about a player who makes a mistake or isn't up to scratch, kickvote ahoy.

Or, worse, that one asshole who tries to act like the commander and demands everyone follows his orders or else they're a faggòt noob and will essentially stop helping others. The joy of running L4D servers was I could get rid of those people quickly, no need for that crap in any of these types of coop games.

Antar Bolaeisk

calex71 wrote: »

I think that has potential to work really for this game and push team work, even the random players will not be long getting that they need to play as a team to win after a few failed games ....... won't they

Have you not played L4D? You would be completely disabused of this notion by now.

This looks quite interesting, hopefully it'll live up to the potential.

calex71

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Have you not played L4D? You would be completely disabused of this notion by now.

This looks quite interesting, hopefully it'll live up to the potential.

I have indeed , guess my subtle sarcasm was a little too subtle

Yeti Beast

Really looking forward to this, but wish they'd show a little of some of the other beast classes. Supposedly there'll be a species that can fly, one that can burrow etc.

Horsefumbler

Can't bloody wait for this. Been playing L4D2 for the last 3 years with friends online, first online FPS I've played since CS1.6 really and really like it. Got pretty good but not quite to the level of competitive play. Starting to get a little bored of it now and this is just the thing to move on to.

Conceptually it seems great. Basically they've took the best part of L4D, the tank fight, and made a game based on just that. My only concern about the game is that it might become unbalanced at higher levels of play in much the same way that L4D was. At low levels the game seemed pretty balanced if possibly tipped slightly towards the infected side but at higher levels the survivors could dominate and they only way to keep things remotely fair was to remove the higher tier weapons and some other tweaks. I can kind of see that happening with hunters in this game too once they get to know each map and get an idea of where the monster is going to go. They could possible hunt down the monster early before it could level up and end the round quickly. Maybe they could add some kind of 'pro mode' where the monster does more damage or something to combat this.

Should be good all the same. I'd say it's going to be a lot of fun playing as the monster even in the early hide-and-seek stages of the round. gonna be tenseasfcuk.

Duggy747 wrote: »

I can foresee the mountains of abuse from extremely angry and foulmouthed people about a player who makes a mistake or isn't up to scratch, kickvote ahoy.

Easy solution: don't be sh*t

Sand

Duggy747 wrote: »

I can foresee the mountains of abuse from extremely angry and foulmouthed people about a player who makes a mistake or isn't up to scratch, kickvote ahoy.

Or, worse, that one asshole who tries to act like the commander and demands everyone follows his orders or else they're a faggòt noob and will essentially stop helping others. The joy of running L4D servers was I could get rid of those people quickly, no need for that crap in any of these types of coop games.

The amount of dead experts I see in games like World of Tanks is a constant source of amusement to me. Always puzzles me why people who died so quickly and early in the round feel fit to agressively share their pro tips with the people who are still active and in the fight.

I found L4D and L4D2 to be relatively benign communities - most players join it because they want to play co-op, and even if you are stuck with an awful team, you can drag them along in your wake most of the time. I've never minded bad players - bad players can learn and improve. On the other hand pricks will always be pricks. I've good hopes for this game.

calex71

Sand wrote: »

The amount of dead experts I see in games like World of Tanks is a constant source of amusement to me. Always puzzles me why people who died so quickly and early in the round feel fit to agressively share their pro tips with the people who are still active and in the fight.

I found L4D and L4D2 to be relatively benign communities - most players join it because they want to play co-op, and even if you are stuck with an awful team, you can drag them along in your wake most of the time. I've never minded bad players - bad players can learn and improve. On the other hand pricks will always be pricks. I've good hopes for this game.

Truer words were never spoken lad!!!!!

Benzino

Release Date confirmed to be the 21st of October, looking forward to this!

2K Games has announced a worldwide Evolve release date of October 21 on Xbox One, PS4 and PC.

Consumers who pre-orders the game from participating retailers will receive the Monster Expansion Pack, which includes the Savage Goliath skin at launch, and a new monster character post-launch. Select retailers will also be offering the Exterminator Weapon Skin Pack or Instant Hunter Pack as pre-order bonuses.

Source

Edit: Here is a video on Gametrailers showing off some of the new characters. They have confirmed there will be 12+ maps, more gamemodes, hunters and monsters.

Yeti Beast

That's cool - multiple characters for each class, with different abilities and weapons? Awesome! Really excited for this one.

Video here from EuroGamer talking a bit about the new classes, and how it may not be the game you think it is. The footage is largely the same as from the video Benzino posted, but gives EuroGamer dude's opinion (for whatever that's worth these days).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpLf3jlytSo

Didn't watch? Basically the previewer says he hated it at first because he was expecting something more like Left 4 Dead with one overpowered tank as the enemy. By the end he has come full circle, saying it's much smarter than that. And if you play it smartly, and with friends, it should be great fun.

Yeti Beast

And sure while we're at it, here's a hands-on from PC Gamer.

Edit: And another hands-on video/interviewy thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrbYON8PPTs

Yeti Beast

Another video showing the exact same footage as the last couple. :pac:

This time though, it's the devs doing the talking, so there's more info as regards the different abilities of the four new characters. This video also explains why all the male characters in the game are hairy feckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJvim3AIMY

Canis Lupus

Oh jeez.... Not sure I'm particularly fond of the characters voices.... Doesn't seem to suit the feel of the game.

Overheal

Anybody watching ign live?

They had an interview with the creators and they showed off gameplay from a match featuring the 2nd monster, a flying kraken

EoinMcLovin

Man that Kraken monster looks way better than the Goliath

Overheal

Looks like Cthulhu LOL

But Id end up playing goliath.

Yeti Beast

What was great (and what we were hoping for) is that it plays completely differently to Goliath. There could be some longevity in this yet.

Overheal

The Dev revealed the game will be ready on Day one with 3 Monster Types and 12 Hunter types.

Yeti Beast

The official reveal trailer for Cthulhu the Kraken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP5Dsuq7mKw

2Mad2BeMad

I can see it now, my very first game of evolve
I am a hunter and the monster is afk.... :L
I really like the look of this game but I probably would of preferred some advanced AI monster as an option for offline or something

Overheal

http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/273350/

It feels more tangible now

Yeti Beast

They're looking for alpha testers......

from North America. :mad:

Surprised you can't pre-purchase on Steam yet (not that I would necessarily).

Overheal

Yeti Beast wrote: »

They're looking for alpha testers......

from North America. :mad:

THATS ME!

SeantheMan

Report, Ban , do something to him, !!!
This isn't fair ! I want justice !!!....and by justice I mean getting to play Evolve




I hope you don't get chosen :P

Overheal

SeantheMan wrote: »

Report, Ban , do something to him, !!!
This isn't fair ! I want justice !!!....and by justice I mean getting to play Evolve




I hope you don't get chosen :P

According to thing I just clicked agreed to, I don't think I'm even allowed to tell you if I was :cool:

dreamers75

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-04-video-releasing-the-kraken-in-evolve

Decent play tru of one level, makes me want to buy and not buy it at the same time.

Looks good from both sides POV but the balancing could ruin this game or make it one of the best. Still on the fence about it.