Social Welfare payments

churchtown2012

Hi All looking for a little advice....i have been offered a job and the pay is 530 a week before deductions. I have 2 kids and im not married but i live with my partner. I will be taxed as a single man and Im just wondering if my partner will be able to receive a social welfare payment.
Any help greatly appreciated

mp22

Have a read here http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/family_income_supplement.html

churchtown2012

thanks mp22 just what i needed

mrsbyrne

If your take home is around 500 and you are working 5 days and you have no other means and she can show looking for and available for work then she gets approx 108 per week.
If not available or looking for work then you apply for FIS

churchtown2012

mrsbyrne wrote: »

If your take home is around 500 and you are working 5 days and you have no other means and she can show looking for and available for work then she gets approx 108 per week.
If not available or looking for work then you apply for FIS

Thank you mrsbyrne my take home pay will be 422 from what i have worked out and that working approx 55/60 hours a week tuesday till satueday

mrsbyrne

JSA approx €156 then.

churchtown2012

mrsbyrne wrote: »

JSA approx €156 then.

Thanks is that cover for the children aswell or just herself

mrsbyrne

That's everybody.

dodzy

Just bear in mind that the JSA claim will of course expose your partner who must satisfy the GSW requirement ( genuinely seeking work ). Dont know your situation but that might be a problem with the kids ?

churchtown2012

Thanks dodzy she has been looking for work like myself but the problem now is that i will be taking the car to work so she would have no way off getting to a job...living out in the sticks and no public transport

eastbono

Also be aware that its your gross pay less prsi,pension and union deductions that is assessed. USC and tax paid are not disregarded for means testing. For FIS its your nett (take home pay) that is assessed.

churchtown2012

eastbono wrote: »

Also be aware that its your gross pay less prsi,pension and union deductions that is assessed. USC and tax paid are not disregarded for means testing. For FIS its your nett (take home pay) that is assessed.

Thanks eastbono so which do you think is the better option

eastbono

You can apply for both and you will be advised of the better option. SW will always pay what is the better rate for you. You may also be able to get both. If I remember correctly its best to apply for FIS first and get that awarded and then for your partner to apply for jsa. When your FIS renewal comes about any money your spouse is getting from JSA will be taken into account but for about 1 year you could have the advantage of getting both.

churchtown2012

eastbono wrote: »

You can apply for both and you will be advised of the better option. SW will always pay what is the better rate for you.

Thanks eastbono i didnt know i could apply for both thanks again for your info

eastbono

If I can remember the criteria correctly then you will def receive €108 on FIS and your spouse should receive €135 pw on Jsa.... I am going to double check the jsa part and get back to you tomorrow. Now you will only be able to get both payments up until your FIS renewal as your spouses payment will put you means in excess for FIS. I will confirm this and get back tomorrow...unless someone else on here can clarify the situation.

churchtown2012

eastbono wrote: »

If I can remember the criteria correctly then you will def receive €108 on FIS and your spouse should receive €135 pw on Jsa.... I am going to double check the jsa part and get back to you tomorrow. Now you will only be able to get both payments up until your FIS renewal as your spouses payment will put you means in excess for FIS. I will confirm this and get back tomorrow...unless someone else on here can clarify the situation.

Thanks again eastbono hope im not causing you any trouble

eastbono

No problem

Saucy McKetchup

mrsbyrne wrote: »

JSA approx €156 then.

You seem to be in the know, if my take home pay was 380 what would the other halves jsa be with 3 kids

Also any links to where it's worked out

dodzy

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

You seem to be in the know, if my take home pay was 380 what would the other halves jsa be with 3 kids

Also any links to where it's worked out

Your gross pay less deductions of PRSI, Pen,Union etc, say (460 approx ??) less 20 per day worked up to 3 days max deduction (€60) * 60%. So 400*60% = €240 means per week. Take this from the other half's payment.

So, 188 + 124.80 + (29.80 * 3) - means = 160 approx for her JSA payment, I think! I'm sure Eastbono will be along with the correct numbers

More info here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html


As for FIS, 703 per week is the 3 child threshold. Less your 380 * 60%, will give you a FIS weekly payment of approx €193 per week

Saucy McKetchup

dodzy wrote: »

380 less 20 per day worked up to 3 days max deduction (€60) * 60%. So 320*60% = €192 means per week. Take this from the other half's payment.

So, 188 + 124.80 + (29.80 * 3) - means = 210 for her JSA payment, I think!

More info here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html


As for FIS, 703 per week is the 3 child threshold. Less your 380 * 60%, will give you a FIS weekly payment of approx €193 per week

Cheers dodzy

dodzy

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

Cheers dodzy

Sorry Saucy, screwed up. Took your 380 as a baseline. Its more, as it's 380 plus tax & USC. I've re-jigged the calculation. Eastbono will confirm !

Saucy McKetchup

dodzy wrote: »

Sorry Saucy, screwed up. Took your 380 as a baseline. Its more, as it's 380 plus tax & USC. I've re-jigged the calculation. Eastbono will confirm !

You were right the first time

dodzy

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

You were right the first time

Sorry Saucy. My head is all over the place. For some reason, I had the OPs gross in my head. Anyway, you will have the figures so the formula is easy. Hope it all works out for ya eitherway

eastbono

churchtown2012 wrote: »

Thanks again eastbono hope im not causing you any trouble

Hi Churchtown,
You should apply for FIS first and have it in payment and then your partner should apply for jsa. I was slightly out (well a fair bit out) on what she would get on jsa. Going on a gross figure of 530E she should get €77pw approx as well as you getting FIS but when it comes up for you FIS renewal then her €77 will be assessed for means also and the dept will advise you which will be best for you at that stage. I would like to know how you get on.

Eastbono

lou32

Hi all, I'm looking for some info on how much our money wud be affected if myself and my partner got married.. I'm on disability allowance and he is my fulltime carer . I get 188 euro and he gets 204 euro so just wondering how much once were married.. Thanks

lou32

Hi all, I'm looking for some info on how much our money wud be affected if myself and my partner got married.. I'm on disability allowance and he is my fulltime carer . I get 188 euro and he gets 204 euro so just wondering how much once were married.. Thanks

mrsbyrne

lou32 wrote: »

Hi all, I'm looking for some info on how much our money wud be affected if myself and my partner got married.. I'm on disability allowance and he is my fulltime carer . I get 188 euro and he gets 204 euro so just wondering how much once were married.. Thanks

Lou if you like you can apply for your partner to be your dependent.
Then your weekly income would be
€188+
€124+
€102=
€414
So a few extra euros.
Ring disability allowance and ask them to send you a dependent form.
Congrats on your upcoming nuptials!