....trying to ID Phil Hogan's car....

galwaytt

...bear with me, I believe Phil Hogan has a ministerial A6 (Silver), the one the protesters broke the window in.

I'm writing on the subject of tax to Dept of environment atmo, I want to quote an example of their own ministers car, and want to determine tax rate applicable to it.

Anyone know the reg of his, so I can check it on motortax.ie ?

testicle

State cars are tax exempt, so the rate is 0

If he has a state car of course, maybe it's private...

Dartz

If you'd said "So I could fill it full of expanding foam", then we'd've jumped at it.

galwaytt

testicle wrote: »

State cars are tax exempt, so the rate is 0

If he has a state car of course, maybe it's private...

That's the thing you see: it may well be private. I know of at least one other where the car is privately owned.

But that isn't why I need it, I'm just looking to create an analogy from it, so if I knew it was a 2.0Tdi A6 Manual, 140bhp, I could work out the tax.

biko

From here it's a 09 Audi A6 if that helps to narrow it down.

PurvesGrundy

All I can say is fair play and I would write a letter too if I had the patience!

Leonard Hofstadter

testicle wrote: »

State cars are tax exempt, so the rate is 0

If he has a state car of course, maybe it's private...

It is not a state car. Only the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Justice have the Mercs now. The rest have their own cars but have civilian (as opposed to Garda) drivers.

This has been the case since the present Government got elected, but as usual, the general public would rather moan and groan even when the Government does the right thing. PS, I'm not a Government fanboy and think Leo Varadkar has been a disaster (though this is no different to pretty much every one of his predecessors unfortunately), but if we're going to criticise the Government let's at least criticise them on facts not what we think.

Apologies for having a bit of a rant, and not aimed at you personally, but wanted to get all of that off my chest before more time is devoted to bashing the Government on something that doesn't actually happen.

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

It is not a state car. Only the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Justice have the Mercs now. The rest have their own cars but have civilian (as opposed to Garda) drivers.

This has been the case since the present Government got elected, but as usual, the general public would rather moan and groan even when the Government does the right thing. PS, I'm not a Government fanboy and think Leo Varadkar has been a disaster (though this is no different to pretty much every one of his predecessors unfortunately), but if we're going to criticise the Government let's at least criticise them on facts not what we think.

Apologies for having a bit of a rant, and not aimed at you personally, but wanted to get all of that off my chest before more time is devoted to bashing the Government on something that doesn't actually happen.

If they were doing the right thing you'd think they'd drive the car themselves instead of wasting money on a driver.

_Kaiser_

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If they were doing the right thing you'd think they'd drive the car themselves instead of wasting money on a driver.

Indeed.. you can be sure that's not being paid out of his own pocket

(waits for someone to spin it into a "providing employment" angle)

Nonoperational

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If they were doing the right thing you'd think they'd drive the car themselves instead of wasting money on a driver.

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Indeed.. you can be sure that's not being paid out of his own pocket

(waits for someone to spin it into a "providing employment" angle)

It's not unreasonable for a government minister to have a driver. The money "wasted" is pretty inconsequential in the scheme of things.

rovoagho

I agree. Whatever else about these guys, they work hard and a lot of that work is done in transit. They simply don't have the time to drive themselves. All we need to do now is figure out how to stop them working on their election campaigns, constituency work, and "favours" while they're supposed to be working for the country.

JohnBoy26

Nonoperational wrote: »

It's not unreasonable for a government minister to have a driver. The money "wasted" is pretty inconsequential in the scheme of things.

It is unreasonable in my opinion. Why should the tax payer have fork out for a driver when this minister is capable of driving himself. It's ridiculous Imo.

JohnBoy26

rovoagho wrote: »

I agree. Whatever else about these guys, they work hard and a lot of that work is done in transit. They simply don't have the time to drive themselves. All we need to do now is figure out how to stop them working on their election campaigns, constituency work, and "favours" while they're supposed to be working for the country.

Imo They haven't done anything for the country in the last three years apart from introduce tax after tax and then waste the lot of it on consultant after consultant & Irish water.

The_Honeybadger

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

It is unreasonable in my opinion. Why should the tax payer have fork out for a driver when this minister is capable of driving himself. It's ridiculous Imo.

Ministers would rack up huge miles, much of the time spent in the car will be used to return phone calls, read emails, documents and reports and carry out other work as required. Whatever anybody says about the value of their work a driver is an absolute must in order for them to carry it out.

Del2005

rovoagho wrote: »

I agree. Whatever else about these guys, they work hard and a lot of that work is done in transit. They simply don't have the time to drive themselves. All we need to do now is figure out how to stop them working on their election campaigns, constituency work, and "favours" while they're supposed to be working for the country.

Make them drive themselves, then they won't have time to do things that aren't what they where elected to the Dail for. Oh wait they're elected for "favours" so running the country wasn't why they were voted in. Still at least if they have to drive themselves they'd be too busy to be pandering to parish pump politics.

galwaytt

mickeyk wrote: »

Ministers would rack up huge miles, much of the time spent in the car will be used to return phone calls, read emails, documents and reports and carry out other work as required. Whatever anybody says about the value of their work a driver is an absolute must in order for them to carry it out.

Sorry, but no.

I got a reply yesterday to an email sent to Phil last.........October ? is that the metric for efficiency then ?

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom

So they dont have enough time to drive themselves but no doubt they have enough time to get pissed in th Dail bar.

The_Honeybadger

galwaytt wrote: »

Sorry, but no.

I got a reply yesterday to an email sent to Phil last.........October ? is that the metric for efficiency then ?

Well that is just petty, are you seriously saying somebody that the electorate voted in to run our country should need to waste 30-40 hours per week driving when a driver could be employed for him for a pittance in the grand scheme of things. We all have our gripes with politicians, their actions, not responding to emails, their remuneration and pension arrangements etc, and you may think minister hogan is useless. I personally think the man is a total incompetent and has been promoted beyond his abilities but the fact is he was voted in and needs the tools at his disposal to do the job he was given.

hoodrats

mickeyk wrote: »

Well that is just petty, are you seriously saying somebody that the electorate voted in to run our country should need to waste 30-40 hours per week driving when a driver could be employed for him for a pittance in the grand scheme of things. We all have our gripes with politicians, their actions, not responding to emails, their remuneration and pension arrangements etc, and you may think minister hogan is useless. I personally think the man is a total incompetent and has been promoted beyond his abilities but the fact is he was voted in and needs the tools at his disposal to do the job he was given.

your not labour are you?

The_Honeybadger

hoodrats wrote: »

your not labour are you?

Nope, not affiliated to any party, but I follow the media and politics with interest. The man has made a complete balls of everything he has touched since being made a minister and has been a pr disaster, his handling of the propert tax and Irish water in particular would be funny if it wasn't so serious. How he is still in his admittedly difficult job is simply baffling.

dharn

Maybe you are looking to borrow it while your fiesta is being fixed

antodeco

I wonder is that the A6 that flew passed me 2 weeks ago with blues and twos going?