Dog proof a garden ?

dnme

Just moved house (renting). The new place has a great back garden but only has half height block walls (about 2-3 feet high). So I will need to dog proof the place to keep my beloved lab from straying to the neighbours.

I have approx 110 feet of perimeter that I need deal with. What would you go with ? I am looking for cheap but also sturdy and looks well. I was thinking half height trellis on top of the existing walls held in place by posts bolted to the wall, what do you think ?

Sir Arthur Daley

Have you neighbours back gardens bounding with you?

Stinicker

Cheapest and Best solution for Dog

dnme

WikiHow wrote: »

Have you neighbours back gardens bounding with you?

Yes

dnme

Stinicker wrote: »

Cheapest and Best solution for Dog

She's on a chain when I let her out but its only a temp solution. I don'y like keeping dogs on chains !!!

Sir Arthur Daley

Would this be a solution? My neighbour has it dog got used of it very quickly.

http://www.radiofence.ie/

dnme

WikiHow wrote: »

Would this be a solution? My neighbour has it dog got used of it very quickly.

http://www.radiofence.ie/

No, and agin for reasons of animal welfare as well as sheer practicality. As I say, I am looking to raise the perimeter walls and just wanted advice on the best way to do this considering costs and what looks well.

555guy

WikiHow wrote: »

Would this be a solution? My neighbour has it dog got used of it very quickly.

http://www.radiofence.ie/

They are great , but a determined dog will eventually jump it and take the shock if the reward at the other side is worth it.

Sir Arthur Daley

dnme wrote: »

No, and agin for reasons of animal welfare as well as sheer practicality. As I say, I am looking to raise the perimeter walls and just wanted advice on the best way to do this considering costs and what looks well.

Have your neighbours any issues with you putting up a fence?

dnme

WikiHow wrote: »

Have your neighbours any issues with you putting up a fence?

No

4th horsemen

How's things,
what about putting some wooden posts down into the ground against inside of wall and have them 5-6ft high and get some 5ft / 6ft chain link fencing? not to expensive and that way you won't be tampering with the wall and will be easy to take down when you move again. Only thing is that the cement foundation of the wall might prevent wooden posts from going into ground, close to the wall.

As for putting a dog on a chain, as mentioned, that's a problem not a solution!
So am glad your not taking that advice

dnme

4th horsemen wrote: »

How's things,
what about putting some wooden posts down into the ground against inside of wall and have them 5-6ft high and get some 5ft / 6ft chain link fencing? not to expensive and that way you won't be tampering with the wall and will be easy to take down when you move again. Only thing is that the cement foundation of the wall might prevent wooden posts from going into ground, close to the wall.

As for putting a dog on a chain, as mentioned, that's a problem not a solution!
So am glad your not taking that advice

Yea thats close that what I was thinking. I was gonna bolt wooden uprights (say 2x4's) to the existing walls and have them stick up over the wall 3 feet or so. Then use these to hang trellis off of. They might support the plastic type fencing that I sometimes see also.

jimf

Stinicker wrote: »

Cheapest and Best solution for Dog

hope this a joke

jimf

just a though is your beloved lab male or female are they neutered

dnme

jimf wrote: »

just a though is your beloved lab male or female are they neutered

Female, yes. Why are you asking ?

jimf

dnme wrote: »

Female, yes. Why are you asking ?

just in case she was to come in heat it would be a feckin nuisance trying to keep the boys out she may not get out but they most certainly would find a way in

id say your idea sounds good and as somebody else said chainlink fencing which is easily removed if you decided to move

cheif kaiser

Firstly let me say well done for being responsible about wanting to keep your pet in your own garden as much for the safety of the dog as for the respect for your Neighbours..I would imagine? Wish my neighbours were as considerate! From pricing fences recently myself I would say it would be almost as cheap to buy 6x6 wooden panels which you can get for as little as €20 each (a trellis and post would cost nearly as much) and screwing these directly to the wall. I have a huge garden myself which is fenced off using panels and I have never had any male dogs getting in to my bitches!:rolleyes:

ART6

Might be worth considering "green" fencing from the firm below. I have used it a lot and found it very strong and reasonably priced. Fixed to the posts as you have described I would think it would do the job without being intrusive.

http://www.wireandfencedepot.ie/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6&zenid=989344d622f583ff89e53e6653681fa1

Stinicker

jimf wrote: »

hope this a joke

No, I am very serious, it is incumbent on dog owners to keep their dogs under control and keeping them chained will prevent them from trespassing or even worse.

jimf

Stinicker wrote: »

No, I am very serious, it is incumbent on dog owners to keep their dogs under control and keeping them chained will prevent them from trespassing or even worse.

hope for your dogs sake you don't own 1

its ok having a dog on a lead and under control in a public area but chained up on your own private property I don't think so

ART6

Stinicker wrote: »

No, I am very serious, it is incumbent on dog owners to keep their dogs under control and keeping them chained will prevent them from trespassing or even worse.

The OP is looking for advice on how to keep his dog within his property in a way that won't affect his neighbors but will allow the dog some freedom. He is prepared to spend money doing so. Of course dogs should be kept under control when lack of that could cause problems for others, and the OP is addressing that. Putting a dog on a chain in a back garden because you can't be bothered to give it a proper run is, in my view, animal cruelty. Any dog will repeatedly get wrapped up in the chain and might possibly injure itself. Simple question: would you like to have a leather collar around your neck with a chain to a post that constrained you to a small circle of grass (or in this climate possibly mud)?

If not then why do it to a dog?

jimf

ART6 wrote: »

The OP is looking for advice on how to keep his dog within his property in a way that won't affect his neighbors but will allow the dog some freedom. He is prepared to spend money doing so. Of course dogs should be kept under control when lack of that could cause problems for others, and the OP is addressing that. Putting a dog on a chain in a back garden because you can't be bothered to give it a proper run is, in my view, animal cruelty. Any dog will repeatedly get wrapped up in the chain and might possibly injure itself. Simple question: would you like to have a leather collar around your neck with a chain to a post that constrained you to a small circle of grass (or in this climate possibly mud)?

If not then why do it to a dog?

+ 1 on all you have said above

dnme

Without trying to pseudo-moderate, don't forget that trolls exist and my advice is to ignore. This thread is about fencing! Many thanks for all the helpful replies.

cheif kaiser

ART6 wrote: »

Any dog will repeatedly get wrapped up in the chain and might possibly injure itself.

Indeed!! A Neighbour of mine decided to tie his dog up with a rope because the dog was repeatedly jumping the wall to try and come down to my garden to play with my dog. Unfortunately the moron left the rope too long and when the dog saw my dog in the garden he tried to jump the wall and was left dangling from the wall by the rope. I nearly broke my bloody neck trying to climb over the fences in between his garden and mine to try and help him but fortunately all his struggling caused the rope to break and he escaped unharmed but it wasn't a very pleasant experience to watch the dog almost hang himself and I am sure it wasn't very pleasant for the dog either!

dp639

dnme wrote: »

No, and agin for reasons of animal welfare as well as sheer practicality.

We have a lab also and he was forever wandering, tried lots of fencing options but he always got out, he even gnawed through wire mesh.

I know you want fence advice but read this anyway. Since we got the radio/collar electronic fence and we have never looked back. You can turn the power right down for training purposes so that it only emits a warning noise - not a shock. The dog will soon learn the boundary. Of course the dog will get a shock if it goes to near the boundary but they are not stupid and will know to stay back.

Ours in place for about 5 years now and many a time I have discovered the battery is end or the power is off and the dog has gone no where, its not as if they are constantly trying to get out and are getting zapped all day every day.

If you go the fence route ensure he/she cannot dig below it, that happened us too, even with the fence buried into the ground.

dnme

dp639 wrote: »

We have a lab also and he was forever wandering, tried lots of fencing options but he always got out, he even gnawed through wire mesh.

I know you want fence advice but read this anyway. Since we got the radio/collar electronic fence and we have never looked back. You can turn the power right down for training purposes so that it only emits a warning noise - not a shock. The dog will soon learn the boundary. Of course the dog will get a shock if it goes to near the boundary but they are not stupid and will know to stay back.

Ours in place for about 5 years now and many a time I have discovered the battery is end or the power is off and the dog has gone no where, its not as if they are constantly trying to get out and are getting zapped all day every day.

If you go the fence route ensure he/she cannot dig below it, that happened us too, even with the fence buried into the ground.

My girl doesnt dig or jump. Shes not a roamer at all. But if there is nothing there to stop her, she will wander. WRT radio collars, they work in some cases, in other cases they dont. I have seen the evidence of digs with collars tightened to the last, and burn marks where they were constantly getting zapped. So in my opinion, f there are any issues with a product or technology, I just rule it out.

Im gonna go with posts bolted to existing wall, and green chain link fencing run along the posts.

Many thanks all

Discodog

Radio fences are cruel & totally unreliable. They are illegal in Wales, about to be illegal in England & likely to be made illegal here.

Chains are just as bad. Collars break & dogs get strangled. The imminent Animal Welfare Bill puts a far higher onus on owners to look after animals responsibly.

I agree with the OP. Trellis panels can be the cheapest option but be aware that some are very weak & only stapled together. I have also watched a dog climbing a trellis like a ladder.