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Bob Dylan sells out

  • 03-02-2014 6:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    I feel dirty after watching this...Bob how could you? "What is more American than America?" Sorry what? What?


    Ughhh....




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    Chrysler are about the worst made cars

    Chrysler is owned by Fiat, a multinational company headquartered in Italy


    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/american-cars/story?id=13801165


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Bob Dylan sold out years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Am I the only one here who thinks is Bob Dylan over-rated and has a terrible voice? I insta-change the channel when he's on. Guff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    FearDark wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who thinks is Bob Dylan over-rated and has a terrible voice?

    No, but thankfully you're in the minority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    I thought this was going to be a hippy with an axe to grind about Dylan playing an electric years ago, disappointing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    The Times They Are a-Changin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    No, but thankfully you're in the minority.
    I think it's pretty obvious he sings poorly in a technical sense. goes out of key etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Poor fella just trying to earn a crust and pay the bills like the rest of us.
    By the way his music is ****e bet there won't be one chrysler sold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Poor fella just trying to earn a crust and pay the bills like the rest of us.
    By the way his music is ****e bet there won't be one chrysler sold.

    Yeah but most of us get couple hundred a week to pay bills. Not couple of million a gig to pay for mansions and crap


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not as if it's his first time advertising though:



    Classy! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Bob sold out when he went electric


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Intelligentsia is all over this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    He must have had some speech therapy before making that add. I have not understood a thing he has said since the late 70s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Poor fella just trying to earn a crust and pay the bills like the rest of us.
    By the way his music is ****e bet there won't be one chrysler sold.

    I'm sure Bobby is unable to eat his breakfast after reading that - he's been found out for the fraudulent artist that you claim him to be :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Gambas


    Bob Dylan was a darling of the 60's revolution for expressing his distaste at being told what he could and couldn't do by The Man.

    Problem for the purists is that Bob never liked being told what he could an couldn't do by them either, so he sold out whenever he felt like it.

    Fair play Bob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I thought this was about concert tickets, like the Garth Brooks threads, and was wondering what the problem/surprise was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I felt a lot better when I stopped expecting my cultural heroes to be moral arbiters instead of enjoying their work.

    OK I admit John lydon going on that show was hard but I convinced myself it was a situationist ploy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    You'd think he was rich enough from his music without having to make adverts for cars and underwear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    At least Pete Seeger didn't have to see it. I'm sure if he had he would have taken the axe to Dylan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Impactful ad. More of a Bob fan after watching it. Not every patriot has a gun in his hand.

    I don't accept the 'selling out' accusation. Selling, yes, and we all have to.
    But selling OUT would be doing ads for Lockheed drones or something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    At least Pete Seeger didn't have to see it. I'm sure if he had he would have taken the axe to Dylan.

    You might argue that an artist's music is the sole thing that conforms to a specific time and ideal.

    The music will always be frozen in that time and place.

    Maybe it's better to just listen to the albums made at a time when he was you wanted him to be and not expect some guy in his 70s to be the same as he was 40 or 50 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    FearDark wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who thinks is Bob Dylan over-rated and has a terrible voice? I insta-change the channel when he's on. Guff.
    Terrible voice? Depends. His voice suits his music. Lots of musicians that write their own music and play their own instruments have got a voice that traditionally wouldn't be considered amazing. But for me, a good singing voice is probably the least important item in music.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    kippy wrote: »
    Bob Dylan sold out years ago.
    Robert Zimmerman sold out when he spotted a gap in the market and ditched rock 'n roll.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Robert Zimmerman sold out when he spotted a gap in the market and ditched rock 'n roll.


    I am disappointed by the commercials, but I don't think he ever cared about what people thought he should do as an artist.

    His reply when he was booed for going electric: "Play it fukking loud!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Clever enough ad considering its target audience and the, ahem, fervor of American nationalism I have to say.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    He's a poor vocalist in a technical sense, but more than makes up for it by being an incredible songwriter and musician. Easily one of my favourite artists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭A Scoundrel


    Bob Dylan didn't sell out when he went electric; he didn't even sell out when he made TV commercials.

    Bob Dylan sold out when he made a ............Christmas album.

    Bob? Walking in a winterwonderland? Wtf man, this sh1t wasn't even ironic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_the_Heart

    It's not on youtube, but my feelings on that album are best summed up by PolicyMic: "truly distressing".

    He's still a legend anyway.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Bob Dylan didn't sell out when he went electric; he didn't even sell out when he made TV commercials.

    Bob Dylan sold out when he made a ............Christmas album.

    Bob? Walking in a winterwonderland? Wtf man, this sh1t wasn't even ironic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_the_Heart

    It's not on youtube, but my feelings on that album are best summed up by PolicyMic: "truly distressing".

    He's still a legend anyway.


    *sob*

    "[Christmas music]is so worldwide and everybody can relate to it in their own way."

    Yes, Bob. Everybody can also relate to cutting through your finger with a dull knife.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    He must have had some speech therapy before making that add. I have not understood a thing he has said since the late 70s.

    Me too. You must have taken a tab too much or fallen of one barstool too many. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭SamAK


    Anyone seen him live lately?

    I saw him in 2011..

    He didn't sing, he croaked and mumbled. He wore a wide-brim hat so you couldn't see his face. The cameras that were linked to the multiple big screens towards the back of the venue suddenly became static. No zoom, no close ups or change of angle like they did for every other act that weekend(by order of Bob, perhaps?).

    I was looking forward to seeing him, but came away extremely disheartened. I just got the impression that he didn't want to be there. And so did a lot of other people, plenty of negative feedback after that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    SamAK wrote: »
    Anyone seen him live lately?

    I saw him in 2011..

    He didn't sing, he croaked and mumbled. He wore a wide-brim hat so you couldn't see his face. The cameras that were linked to the multiple big screens towards the back of the venue suddenly became static. No zoom, no close ups or change of angle like they did for every other act that weekend(by order of Bob, perhaps?).

    I was looking forward to seeing him, but came away extremely disheartened. I just got the impression that he didn't want to be there. And so did a lot of other people, plenty of negative feedback after that one.

    How much was the ticket?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Shur Bob was advertising knickers and bras nearly 10 years ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1458742/Hey-Mr-Lingerie-Man-.-.-..html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭SamAK


    How much was the ticket?

    Diddly squat, I was working there!

    Great lineup that Bob was only a tiny part of...I got to see B.B King!

    http://www.songkick.com/festivals/151651-byron-bay-bluesfest/id/7354541-byron-bay-bluesfest-2011


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Oink wrote: »
    His reply when he was booed for going electric: "Play it fukking loud!"
    He didn't go electric, he went back.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2011/05/22/life/one-of-a-kind-bob-dylan-at-70/
    This is the hall in which the schoolboy Zimmerman first performed, on piano, with his rock’n'roll group The Golden Chords. He hammered out Little Richard numbers on a 1922 Steinway Grand. And when he was leaving school in 1959, he wrote in his high school yearbook under “Ambition”: “To join Little Richard.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    I've never been able to listen to him without thinking about this Spitting Image sketch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUmvjtPlQQ


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Bob is a big fake. He's not even a Dylan. Them Dylans were sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Bob is a big fake. He's not even a Dylan. Them Dylans were sound.

    No. He's a Carpenter ;)


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