Direct Labour build plan

gooseygander

Hi, am new to this game and am looking for info on a direct labour build for a 2700 sq foot house in south east rural. Not sure wheather we will go route of contractor of self build yet. Is there much to be saved going direct as opposed to builder?. We plan to have our notice of building intention lodged before march deadline so direct labour is still an option for us, keeping in mind building regs for projects after march. Also if anybody has a self build plan or spreadsheet on the different stages of the build or any other useful info. We are thinking of maybe getting a project manager as we would not know a great deal about the building trade, any suggestions on our project would be great??, also heating options at the minute are 1. geothermal air to water, or 2. solar panel, stove to back boiler, together with oil burner, and thoughts or suggestions???. Thanks a lot.

DOCARCH

Edit: Sorry...did not read your post properly! I see you intend to start prior to March 1st.

BryanF

gooseygander wrote: »

Hi, am new to this game and am looking for info on a direct labour build for a 2700 sq foot house in south east rural.

• Not sure wheather we will go route of contractor of self build yet.
• Is there much to be saved going direct as opposed to builder?.
• We plan to have our notice of building intention lodged before march deadline so direct labour is still an option for us, keeping in mind building regs for projects after march.
• Also if anybody has a self build plan or spreadsheet on the different stages of the build
• or any other useful info.
• We are thinking of maybe getting a project manager
• as we would not know a great deal about the building trade,
• any suggestions on our project would be great??,
• also heating options at the minute are
• 1. geothermal air to water, or
• 2. solar panel, stove to back boiler, together with oil burner,
• and thoughts or suggestions???. Thanks a lot.

poster welcome to boards.ie
why not read around the forum a bit, and use the search function. you'll find most of your questions are answered as these are common questions. but you'll appreciate their very broad at the same time. (that's why my 'stock answer' is ask your architect;))

archtech

You have a lot of work to get done in the coming 2-3 weeks if you intend lodging a commencement notice and starting in early march.

gooseygander

Correct me of I am wrong, but in conversation with arct. Once we have commencement notice lodged before march we are exempt, is there a timeframe to turning sod after commencement notice is lodged ?, thanks for all inputs in advance.

BarryM3

Yes, it's basically 1 month

DOCARCH

gooseygander wrote: »

...is there a timeframe to turning sod after commencement notice is lodged ?

Max. 28 days.

st1979

Surely you need to price a builder first then see what you think you will save. I just done a granny flat which I was going to do direct labour but when I asked my builder to quote I knew I couldnt compete (builder has built many houses for me and was going to be slack for a couple of weeks). Just got him to build the basic building and I direct labour electrics and plumbing painting etc. Started 8wks ago and should be finished in 2 wks ready to move into. I can pm you his details as he is in south east area

Gumbo

gooseygander wrote: »

Correct me of I am wrong, but in conversation with arct. Once we have commencement notice lodged before march we are exempt, is there a timeframe to turning sod after commencement notice is lodged ?, thanks for all inputs in advance.

Minimum 14 days, and maximum 28 days. If BCO sees that the site hasnt started within the 28 days, they they will return your CN. And then you will have to resubmit under the new control regulations.

gooseygander

Thanks st1979, our plans are going to a few builders next week for quote/pricing, by all means p.m me any details of your builder as all options are on the table at the moment. We are in Carlow area so I presume builder would need to be close enough to make it work for both of us.

blindside88

st1979 wrote: »

Surely you need to price a builder first then see what you think you will save. I just done a granny flat which I was going to do direct labour but when I asked my builder to quote I knew I couldnt compete (builder has built many houses for me and was going to be slack for a couple of weeks). Just got him to build the basic building and I direct labour electrics and plumbing painting etc. Started 8wks ago and should be finished in 2 wks ready to move into. I can pm you his details as he is in south east area

Hi could you pm me your builders details also please. We're currently waiting on planning permission stage and are pricing around

pip ellis

Hi

I agree with St 1979 try and price a builder and see what prices they give u compared to your estimates, but remember that if a builder makes a mistake its his responsibilty, not the same if u have a problem.

The brother in law self built his house and found it very difficult and stressful, but last year we used a builder and found his prices and workmanship to be super and as my brother in law says less grey hair.

Also remember to get a good builder and one u can work with as its like a mini marriage for a few months, we did not go with the cheapest but we found our builder to be a good communicator and able to talk to about ideas and problems.

Hope this helps.

blindside88

pip ellis wrote: »

Hi

I agree with St 1979 try and price a builder and see what prices they give u compared to your estimates, but remember that if a builder makes a mistake its his responsibilty, not the same if u have a problem.

The brother in law self built his house and found it very difficult and stressful, but last year we used a builder and found his prices and workmanship to be super and as my brother in law says less grey hair.

Also remember to get a good builder and one u can work with as its like a mini marriage for a few months, we did not go with the cheapest but we found our builder to be a good communicator and able to talk to about ideas and problems.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for that, all input is much appreciated. I'm off work this Friday so going to spend the day getting in touch with some local contractors and giving them copies of the plans. I have some family friends in various trades so will be doing some research on which ever contractor we go with

gooseygander

pip ellis wrote: »

Hi

I agree with St 1979 try and price a builder and see what prices they give u compared to your estimates, but remember that if a builder makes a mistake its his responsibilty, not the same if u have a problem.

The brother in law self built his house and found it very difficult and stressful, but last year we used a builder and found his prices and workmanship to be super and as my brother in law says less grey hair.

Also remember to get a good builder and one u can work with as its like a mini marriage for a few months, we did not go with the cheapest but we found our builder to be a good communicator and able to talk to about ideas and problems.

Hope this helps.

thanks pip, but did you and brother in law build a like for like house and did he save much by going direct route as opposed to builder. Maybe a few grey hairs is worth it for the savings one might make ?

RedPeppers

kceire wrote: »

Minimum 14 days, and maximum 28 days. If BCO sees that the site hasnt started within the 28 days, they they will return your CN. And then you will have to resubmit under the new control regulations.

What would be considered as work having started?

Gumbo

RedPeppers wrote: »

What would be considered as work having started?

Any works mentioned in the planning application and/or any works that would be otherwise in need of planning.

So in other words, don't listen to people who tell you just to erect some hoarding, this does not constitute works.

Fat Nav

OP I sent you a PM of Carlow builder that built my house

hexosan

RedPeppers wrote: »

What would be considered as work having started?

Foundations poured

gooseygander

Fat Nav wrote: »

OP I sent you a PM of Carlow builder that built my house

Fat Nav can you p.m your Carlow builders name also as we are currently sending out our plans to builders, thanks in advance

BryanF

gooseygander wrote: »

Fat Nav can you p.m your Carlow builders name also as we are currently sending out our plans to builders, thanks in advance

goose, send him a PM!

daizy17

Hi, please could you forward me on the name of the builder in the Carlow area. Many thanks