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Smaller salary than what was advertised?

  • 30-01-2014 12:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    In interviews the only thing that ever catches me off guard is when they ask ' what is your expected salary?'

    I mean first of all I think it's rude they ask, if a job you are going for has the salary outlined on the job description.

    For example: I saw a job advertised for 28,000, now the employer is saying it is 24,000.

    Should I question it if they offer me the job based on the 24,000? I am not really into accepting Lower price but I am in no position to reject employment!

    Thanks in advance! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 mrinsatiable


    I had experience with this a few weeks ago, I didn't get the job in the end and it is one of the things I keep going back to. On the job description it had advertised 35-40k a month, and I was asked in the interview what I wanted. I told them I wanted what was advertised. After saying it to a few friends many of them told me they probably wanted me to say I would work for less than the advertised figure just so I could get a job..... pretty ****ty tactic if it's true, especially with the job that it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Pretty standard.

    The salary advertised is normally a bracket. Ads often have "Dependant on experience" or similar to cover themselves.

    The question in the interview is not to try to reduce the salary but about how you answer the question. It is a bad company that tries to lowball when hiring staff as they won't retain staff or keep the best staff for sure.

    The best response is. " I would expect to a salary in line with the local market and the position . The advertisement for the job at X appears to be an accurate estimation on my expected salary"

    When pushing for the higher amount in a bracket add.

    " Given my experience for this role I believe it would be appropriate that I would expect the higher end of the salary range as advertised."

    Unless your qualification/experience match an ad exactly they can always offer lower.

    I once was brought into an interview and after 30 minutes they mentioned that they made a mistake about the salary/rate and were actually offering me a third of my rate. So mistake like that can happen too. I was livid that they knew this and didn't ring me and let me know before I went to the interview or at least at the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 mrinsatiable


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Pretty standard.

    The salary advertised is normally a bracket. Ads often have "Dependant on experience" or similar to cover themselves.

    The question in the interview is not to try to reduce the salary but about how you answer the question. It is a bad company that tries to lowball when hiring staff as they won't retain staff or keep the best staff for sure.

    The best response is. " I would expect to a salary in line with the local market and the position . The advertisement for the job at X appears to be an accurate estimation on my expected salary"

    When pushing for the higher amount in a bracket add.

    " Given my experience for this role I believe it would be appropriate that I would expect the higher end of the salary range as advertised."

    Unless your qualification/experience match an ad exactly they can always offer lower.

    I once was brought into an interview and after 30 minutes they mentioned that they made a mistake about the salary/rate and were actually offering me a third of my rate. So mistake like that can happen too. I was livid that they knew this and didn't ring me and let me know before I went to the interview or at least at the start.

    Good advice. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Nelly1234


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Pretty standard.

    The salary advertised is normally a bracket. Ads often have "Dependant on experience" or similar to cover themselves.

    The question in the interview is not to try to reduce the salary but about how you answer the question. It is a bad company that tries to lowball when hiring staff as they won't retain staff or keep the best staff for sure.

    The best response is. " I would expect to a salary in line with the local market and the position . The advertisement for the job at X appears to be an accurate estimation on my expected salary"

    When pushing for the higher amount in a bracket add.

    " Given my experience for this role I believe it would be appropriate that I would expect the higher end of the salary range as advertised."

    Unless your qualification/experience match an ad exactly they can always offer lower.

    I once was brought into an interview and after 30 minutes they mentioned that they made a mistake about the salary/rate and were actually offering me a third of my rate. So mistake like that can happen too. I was livid that they knew this and didn't ring me and let me know before I went to the interview or at least at the start.

    Thanks so much for this:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    I had experience with this a few weeks ago, I didn't get the job in the end and it is one of the things I keep going back to. On the job description it had advertised 35-40k a month, and I was asked in the interview what I wanted. I told them I wanted what was advertised. After saying it to a few friends many of them told me they probably wanted me to say I would work for less than the advertised figure just so I could get a job..... pretty ****ty tactic if it's true, especially with the job that it was.

    Sorry for going off topic but I have to ask, what job was it you were going for?

    Wouldn't mind 35-40k per month myself! :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I had that one from an employer.
    Agreed to start a job. Everything was fine with a handshake.

    A week in, HR person gives me contract for nearly 10k less than agreed!!!

    I just refused to sign it and immediately started a new job hunt. I had a new role by the end of the week and just didn't come in on Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 mrinsatiable


    GAAman wrote: »
    Sorry for going off topic but I have to ask, what job was it you were going for?

    Wouldn't mind 35-40k per month myself! :pac:

    **** sorry, a year haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    If the demand is high for the job, the salary will go down, if demand is low, salary will go up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Nelly1234 wrote: »
    ...but I am in no position to reject employment!...

    Obviously if you are in a position to refuse low offers you would.

    But in your position I would take it, but don't commit to a long contract. In that way if something better comes up you can move on. Thats the flip side of a low salary, people will leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Nelly1234


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I had that one from an employer.
    Agreed to start a job. Everything was fine with a handshake.

    A week in, HR person gives me contract for nearly 10k less than agreed!!!

    I just refused to sign it and immediately started a new job hunt. I had a new role by the end of the week and just didn't come in on Monday.



    God that's crazy!!!!! Thanks guys!!:)


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    When asked that question, I usually tell them that we can discuss salary if an offer is made. When offered a contract, the best I would say is, ask is there any room for negotiation. If the answer is no and it's well below your expectation or that advertised, then I would strongly considered accepting the role.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    I had that one from an employer.
    Agreed to start a job. Everything was fine with a handshake.

    A week in, HR person gives me contract for nearly 10k less than agreed!!!

    I just refused to sign it and immediately started a new job hunt. I had a new role by the end of the week and just didn't come in on Monday.

    I had a similar one where I was promised a vehicle and then on the first day told that there had been a change of company policy and there were going to be no more company vehicles, given the massive mileage involved in the work I drove home again. Funny really they chased me like mad to make me come back but didn't come up with what I had been promised at interview and you can't start a job on that bases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    The question I always hate is the "what was/is your salary in your previous/current Job"

    Always an awkward one if its a good bit less then the advertised on you are interviewing for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    The question I always hate is the "what was/is your salary in your previous/current Job"

    Always an awkward one if its a good bit less then the advertised on you are interviewing for.

    Not if you inflate it. I always do, never had a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The question I always hate is the "what was/is your salary in your previous/current Job"
    They just say that to see if they can match it or get away with lower than they initially thought. Tbh, it's none of their business and I have never told them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Nelly1234


    [quote. They just say that to see if they can match it or get away with lower than they initially thought. Tbh, it's none of their business and I have never told them.I would say is, ask is there any room for negotiation. If the answer is no and it's well below your expectation or that advertised, then I would strongly considered accepting the role.[/quote]

    Is it ok to not tell them??? Guys thanks so much for the replies, has helped so much!!:)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Itzy wrote: »
    When asked that question, I usually tell them that we can discuss salary if an offer is made.

    If I had two potential candidates worth making an offer to, I'd make the offer first to the one who's salary range I know and only come back to the other if the first refused. If people don't know your expectations, you probably will not be their first preference when it comes to making the offer...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    biko wrote: »
    They just say that to see if they can match it or get away with lower than they initially thought. Tbh, it's none of their business and I have never told them.
    I think that is a bit strong to say that. Having spent time interviewing people and asking questions I can assure you the objective was not to pay the person less.
    Generally when this question is asked it is due to the interviewer coming across as if they did everything in the company they worked for. Asking "What is your current salary?" is to get see if they are being held in such high regard in the company. If you refuse to answer the question in an interview I would take it that the person is not being truthful and at least secretive. This is a black mark against you in an interview.

    Knowing if somebody is getting a pay cut or pay jump is important to know when recruiting as it indicates much more.

    I think you can answer the question without being specific and also not lose traction in the interview.

    "I am currently on a similar salary and package to the roles as advertised"

    " This salary and package is somewhat less than my currently salary but I believe the opportunities here are greater, better suited to where I see myself going"

    "This salary is an increase on what I am currently on but the role will involve more responsibility so seems to be appropriate with the market"


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