New rear wheel

ford2600

Looking for reliable rear wheel, thinking of getting one built up but not completely against idea of factory wheel.

To help you advise me here is some info
* I weigh 80kgs. This hasn't altered in years nor do I expect it to
* I don't race or don't intend to.
* I ride long distance, have done 250km and aiming to do up to 400km in a day.
* Doing a 4 day 1200km this year
* road surfaces, particularly where I climb can be poor( I climb a lot)
* I'll take a hit on weight in order to have strong reliable long lasting, serviceable wheels.
* My bike isn't fancy, a 1100 aluminium.
* I use 25mm tyres on rear

Any advice of suitable rims, hubs and spokes greatly appreciated

€200ish budget but will increase if good reason to

outfox

If weight not an issue, rear wheel off this perhaps?

ford2600

outfox wrote: »

If weight not an issue, rear wheel off this perhaps?

Nice looking model, nearly as nice as my own...

browsing

I'm a little bit lighter than yourself and I've been riding shimano rs10's since november I think. I've done 2 or 3 thousand km on them and they're still running true and I usually commute in and out with a pannier which can have a few bits and pieces in it.

I got them when they were shown up on the bargain alerts megathread so I couldn't refuse such a good deal!
I was thinking I might get a higher spoke count wheel (only 20 on the back I think!) because I was concerned about durability but the rs10's are going great.

Did you last wheel disintegrate after little usage? If not, would you not just get the same if you're not concerned about weight?
I had my eye on Shimano r500/r501 before the rs10's appeared. They seem like good value. At ~100, they're probably good quality as they are shimano but they aren't the lightest but you said you're not concerned about that. I'd go for them as they seem the best bang/buck.

ford2600

browsing wrote: »

I'm a little bit lighter than yourself and I've been riding shimano rs10's since november I think. I've done 2 or 3 thousand km on them and they're still running true and I usually commute in and out with a pannier which can have a few bits and pieces in it.

I got them when they were shown up on the bargain alerts megathread so I couldn't refuse such a good deal!
I was thinking I might get a higher spoke count wheel (only 20 on the back I think!) because I was concerned about durability but the rs10's are going great.

Did you last wheel disintegrate after little usage? If not, would you not just get the same if you're not concerned about weight?
I had my eye on Shimano r500/r501 before the rs10's appeared. They seem like good value. At ~100, they're probably good quality as they are shimano but they aren't the lightest but you said you're not concerned about that. I'd go for them as they seem the best bang/buck.

Thanks for reply
Had R501 came new with bike, replaced under warranty.

Replaced with Aksiums, have 10k done with a few spoke and freehub issues arising now.
Just wanted a quality wheel that I could service and replace rims etc as required.

cdaly_

For a serviceable wheel, particularly for Audax use, consider getting a wheel built (or learn to build it yourself). That'll get you something strong, reliable and serviceable.

Around EUR150 will get you a Mavic OpenPro rim, 105 rear hub and DT Swiss spokes.

Another EUR10 will get you Roger Musson's Professional Guide to Wheel Building with instructions for building your own stand...

cdaly_

Mind you, I've done a number of servicing jobs on my Aksiums over the years, including re-bushing the freehubs and replacing a broken rim and I've ridden quite a number of Audax spins on them with a full load* up on the bike.



*Which is mostly me at ~90kg...

browsing

That's unfortunate alright. I'd have expected to get much more out of aksiums.
I've aksiums on my race bike and I've done a season and a half on them and they're still in good nick but I never use them commuting or in winter.
I did break an old aksium rim on a different rear but that's a different story...!

If you're having problems with these lower spoke count wheels I'd definitely consider something like @cdaly_ suggests. They'll be well within your budget and a good bit stronger as the load is more evenly spread per spoke. Most importantly seeing that you're breaking spokes/rims etc., they are relatively easy to source for something handbuilt where aksiums and rs10's etc are more difficult.

Building your own wheel as @cdaly_ also suggests gives a great sense of accomplishment and if you are patient with it can work very well. There's a good article on it on sheldonbrown.com but if you're buying brand new components it might be worth investing in something like the book suggested above as it's a relatively small outlay on the price of the new components.

Best of luck with it. (If it was me, I'd enjoy the challenge of building them up!)

ford2600

cdaly_ wrote: »

For a serviceable wheel, particularly for Audax use, consider getting a wheel built (or learn to build it yourself). That'll get you something strong, reliable and serviceable.

Around EUR150 will get you a Mavic OpenPro rim, 105 rear hub and DT Swiss spokes.

Another EUR10 will get you Roger Musson's Professional Guide to Wheel Building with instructions for building your own stand...

Thanks for that, need to educate myself on lacing patterns advantages of various rims and hubs.

No major pressure time wise, thanks for input and link

diomed

Get one wheel built. I got a set built by Harry Rowland, Kent, with 36 spokes front and rear. The more spokes the better imo.
You can find him online. You can decide the rim, spokes, hub.

bcmf

Khamsins came up here a few days ago for sale.
Really rate them well and very servicable.

letape

bcmf wrote: »

Khamsins came up here a few days ago for sale.
Really rate them well and very servicable.

I'm selling a set on the adverts sub forum. As new but campag freehub.

ford2600

letape wrote: »

I'm selling a set on the adverts sub forum. As new but campag freehub.

Yeah I saw that.

Shimano commoner here I'm afraid

ford2600

diomed wrote: »

Get one wheel built. I got a set built by Harry Rowland, Kent, with 36 spokes front and rear. The more spokes the better imo.
You can find him online. You can decide the rim, spokes, hub.

Just went this route. Ultegra hub, steel freehub rather than ambrosio alloy, open pro rim and sapim spokes.

I'll rebuild this wheel when time comes.

Thanks for input

diomed

ford2600 wrote: »

Just went this route. Ultegra hub, steel freehub rather than ambrosio alloy, open pro rim and sapim spokes.
I'll rebuild this wheel when time comes.
Thanks for input

Good choice in my biased opinion.
I found him easy to deal with, although I used e-mail only as I have no phone. I got him to send my wheels to deliverme.ie in Newry who delivered them to my door for €22.

Seweryn

ford2600 wrote: »

Just went this route. Ultegra hub, steel freehub rather than ambrosio alloy, open pro rim and sapim spokes.

I'll rebuild this wheel when time comes.

That is a great choice. I recently got a second hand set in similar configuration - old Shimano Dura Ace 7700 hubs with Mavic open pro rims, 32 spokes front and rear. I am happy with them, they are comfortable to ride even with the Gatorskins on (as they came with them) in comparison to Ksyriums Equipe on GP 4000S tyres.
And importantly, they are serviceable and rebuildable at a reasonable cost.
I bought these wheels for my project bike (a steel bike from mid 1990's that I got over a year ago), but I use them on my every day beater for now.

ford2600

Seweryn wrote: »

That is a great choice. I recently got a second hand set in similar configuration - old Shimano Dura Ace 7700 hubs with Mavic open pro rims, 32 spokes front and rear. I am happy with them, they are comfortable to ride even with the Gatorskins on (as they came with them) in comparison to Ksyriums Equipe on GP 4000S tyres.
And importantly, they are serviceable and rebuildable at a reasonable cost.
I bought these wheels for my project bike (a steel bike from mid 1990's that I got over a year ago), but I use them on my every day beater for now.

Had originally looked at a 28 spoke race 23 from wheelsmith. £200 and get good reviews.

Decided on 32 ultegra in finish, peace of mind I suppose.

As an aside not sure aksiums are as robust as before. Have use them since 07 but at 10k km with an 80kg rider the 2013 version have been disappointing.

You won't be up the Nire this weekend! MTB weather!

Seweryn

ford2600 wrote: »

Had originally looked at a 28 spoke race 23 from wheelsmith. £200 and get good reviews.

Decided on 32 ultegra in finish, peace of mind I suppose.

As an aside not sure aksiums are as robust as before. Have use them since 07 but at 10k km with an 80kg rider the 2013 version have been disappointing.

I also looked at the Race23 wheels some time ago, when I was doing my research. Nice wheels, but I have no budget for them. Alternatively, if I had the money to spend on a set like this, I think (again after spending moe and more time researching) I would go for a 23mm H Plus Son rims, 24/28 spoke configuration with possibly Miche Primato hubs (on a budget, but still good), or with Shimano DA hubs instead, if money was no object to a sensible level of course.

ford2600 wrote: »

You won't be up the Nire this weekend! MTB weather!

No, the legs are tired enough first of all , the weather is another thing. Jeezis, some winds and rain. But yesterday morning was a good bit wetter when I was out early morning, but probably not as windy.
A sofa day for me, unfortunately. Will do a lot of bike bits window internet shopping, as usual...

Enjoy your weekend .

ashleey

Barrow wheelers sportive tomorrow? I'm hoping the weather clears

Seweryn

ashleey wrote: »

Barrow wheelers sportive tomorrow? I'm hoping the weather clears

Good Luck tomorrow Ashleey, I don't think I have the fitness to complete anything like that at the moment .

ashleey

I'm blaming the weather. Nothing wrong with your fitness!