Deer found wounded in ditch

rowa

http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/baby-deer-mairead-shot-ireland-1281502-Jan2014/

There are some spanners out there with firearms licences.

Lotharmike

Agreed there are with no idea what they are at or damage that is inflicted.If it goes on the way it is at present its not too long before some poor soul gets seriously injured or worse.
That does look like a shotgun wound though on its back,way to big to be a rifle impact unless they are showing an exit wound ?

TriggerPL

I'd put my house that deer was hit by a car or jeep etc what round would do that damage and not break the spine

Grizzly 45

Looks more like a grazing shot than anything else. Gotta laugh at the loopy loop comments on there though.:p

jap gt

TriggerPL wrote: »

I'd put my house that deer was hit by a car or jeep etc what round would do that damage and not break the spine

Ud lose ur house. Place where he was found is around 4 miles from the road. Def shot loads of dear have been shot in the area

tomtucker81

I was just reading it on the journal and about to post the link here.
Some ott comments alright, and sensationalist comments such as it being close to a house and children.
but it does make you wonder about when it was shot. As said in the article the deer lost use of its hind legs. So how far would it have gotten that it couldn't be found? Unless it was done in darkness, which to me makes more sense that the person lost it in the dark/been spooked by other people....for obvious reasons

Grizzly 45

Deer and cattle are immensely tough critters,they can survive somtimes vechicle impacts that would kill a person outright. .That wound while it looks nasty wont affect it much in later life.Reason she cant stand either is simply she is weak from lack of food and has a injury. In one of the pics they have hay and a carrot for it...FFS!:rolleyes::rolleyes: She is still a baby and needs the hinds milk!!Or a substitute She wont be able to crop grass or anything rough like hay for another 2 to 3 months until she is weaned.
Gotta wonder what some people think or have a concept of how life in the wild really is.

dodderangler

You never know lads. That deer could've been eating farmers chickens or something.
Seriously some idiots with guns out there.

welsummer

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Looks more like a grazing shot than anything else. Gotta laugh at the loopy loop comments on there though.:p

media hype.That deer was not shot. if you look at the direction of the wound, it runs for about 3 inches up the length of the spine and is fairly neat.
If this was from a rifle the wound would be a lot more severe and travelled up or down the length of the body and would of done huge damage to the head or rear end. This was most likely done while the deer was passing through a gap in a newly erected barbed wire fence.

Grizzly 45

Amazing the differences two papers [ well we'll call the Journal.ie a paper for arguements sake and the Indo.]
The independant reports that this is a five month old deer fawn. IOW a bit past the cute bambi stage of things,so this is pretty much a weaned animal and able to pretty much survive by itself.
While the Journal has a load of cute little injured deer pics and neglects to mention this is a much older deer than they are letting on. Who is pandering to the emotive mob out there??

FISMA

Given all of the images of Bambi, why hold back on the x-ray showing the shrapnel?

DogfoxCork

that looks like the deer was clipped with a ballistic tip that fragmented on impact. seen that sort of thing with a fox before.

djflawless

IMO saying that this deer was shot is total bolly wox

I know it could be my speculation or rumour stirring but I'd nearly associate this with a buzzard attack than believe it was shot
Something to ponder as well, but if someone was taking this for a game dealer or for a freezer I don't think they would be attempting body shots
And if it was for bravado in front of the lads, I'd imagine it would have been a headshot too

IRLConor

djflawless wrote: »

if someone was taking this for a game dealer or for a freezer I don't think they would be attempting body shots
And if it was for bravado in front of the lads, I'd imagine it would have been a headshot too

You're assuming that they were aiming where they hit! There are a lot of incompetent fools out and about.

greengrasscork

especially when there shooting out a window

welsummer

if this deer was shot, you would have a furrow cut out of the hair before it hit flesh

luvhuntin

Too many stories being thrown around without proper evidence of deer being shot from vehicles, poaching blah blah blah. Im not for one moment denying its happening but theres bad publicity about shooting in general without spreading crap without the proper facts and evidence. People spreading these stories are doing us no favours. I came across a deer caught in fencing last Thursday while out walking the dog. I was in the process of trying to release it when a man and woman came along. I got it free and a conversation started which soon turned to "it must have been trying to escape the poachers-sure it's all over the papers and the Internet????????how crazy is that?
I've no problem condemning people caught and prosecuted by the proper authorities but there's some groups and people who think they are doing the right thing by spreading all sorts of **** that are giving the ordinary joe soap ideas like this

meathstevie

luvhuntin wrote: »

Too many stories being thrown around without proper evidence of deer being shot from vehicles, poaching blah blah blah. Im not for one moment denying its happening but theres bad publicity about shooting in general without spreading crap without the proper facts and evidence. People spreading these stories are doing us no favours. I came across a deer caught in fencing last Thursday while out walking the dog. I was in the process of trying to release it when a man and woman came along. I got it free and a conversation started which soon turned to "it must have been trying to escape the poachers-sure it's all over the papers and the Internet????????how crazy is that?
I've no problem condemning people caught and prosecuted by the proper authorities but there's some groups and people who think they are doing the right thing by spreading all sorts of **** that are giving the ordinary joe soap ideas like this

Amen. Assumptions and speculations often do more damage than good.

Grizzly 45

According to the journal.ie it died yesterday,and a nice graphic description of the wound was given with heaps of speculation,and no they wont do an autopsy to find out exactly what killed it.
waste of good venison.:pac:

dodderangler

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

According to the journal.ie it died yesterday,and a nice graphic description of the wound was given with heaps of speculation,and no they wont do an autopsy to find out exactly what killed it.
waste of good venison.:pac:

So instead of an autopsy they'll just stick to assumptions? If they done the autopsy and discovered it was something else that done that damage maybe they'd apologise to the hunting community for making the assumption.

Capercaille

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

According to the journal.ie it died yesterday,and a nice graphic description of the wound was given with heaps of speculation,and no they wont do an autopsy to find out exactly what killed it.
waste of good venison.:pac:

Presumably the deer was on antibiotics for the wound, therefore you could not use the animal for human consumption.

djflawless

dodderangler wrote: »

So instead of an autopsy they'll just stick to assumptions? If they done the autopsy and discovered it was something else that done that damage maybe they'd apologise to the hunting community for making the assumption.

That wouldn't suit the minority

Grizzly 45

Capercaille wrote: »

Presumably the deer was on antibiotics for the wound, therefore you could not use the animal for human consumption.

Wouldnt bother me... Got so much crap from food in my system from the last 49 years,I think some amoxycillin and whatever else wont do me in just yet.:D

cookimonster

Capercaille wrote: »

Presumably the deer was on antibiotics for the wound, therefore you could not use the animal for human consumption.

All domestic animals for the food chain can be treated with antibiotics. Even organically reared livestock can be treated (with in limits) and after a given period regains it organic status.

By the way no wild food (game, fish, flora etc) can be classed as organic as thier diet or nutrient intake can not be guaranteed organic. :eek:

Capercaille

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Wouldnt bother me... Got so much crap from food in my system from the last 49 years,I think some amoxycillin and whatever else wont do me in just yet.:D

If I sent sheep to factory and the withdrawal period for the drugs/doses which they were given were not up, the sheep would be skipped and I would be given a brutal fine. If the lads who were treating the deer gave the carcase to somebody to eat I would reckon they would be in serious trouble. I wouldn't fancy eating a carcase that has died from infection/sepsis The carcase would not set properly.