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Anxiety and overcoming

  • 24-01-2014 11:20am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭


    I wrote this yesterday as an email, and got an incredible response this morning with people coming back and sharing their stories.

    And I know Kev has spoken about it recently too. So hopefully this'll reach out to some people and help them.

    Hopefully we can share some stories.

    If anyone does wanna talk a bit more about it in private, email me to james@revolutionfitness.ie (don't use PMs cos my inbox is pretty much full)
    It's 3.26pm Thursday 23rd January 2014 and
    I'm just in the door from the gym.


    I sat down IMMEDIATELY to start writing this
    to capture my real, unedited thoughts.


    I'd a really bad day today. In the grand
    scheme of things nothing "bad" happened, but
    I felt like I was going to explode with panic
    and anxiety.


    See I was due to train today, and I knew the
    session was gonna be tough. And I ended up
    getting all worked up about it.


    It all started badly - poor nights sleep, and
    I didn't get up until almost 9am (for a
    6.30am riser every day, that's a HUGE lie
    in). So immediately I felt like half my day
    was gone.


    I was supposed to train at 1pm. But I got
    onto emails late and a few things got in the
    way.


    Sarah left her purse at home, and I was due
    to go into BTs anyway to get nespresso so
    said I'd drop it in.


    Then I realized I'd no food prepped and that
    my pre workout eating schedule was gonna be
    destroyed. And I started to get anxious.


    So I started prepping food.


    I instinctively went to the fridge and
    started chopping up a sweet potato into
    chips. I have NO idea why, but I felt
    compelled to do it in some sorta OCD manner.


    I couldn't leave the apartment until it was
    done.


    And then it was like 12.45. And I realized
    I'd been scrubbing the same plate for about
    90 seconds.


    How the **** did I get from sweet potatoes to
    there?

    I was in a daze. No idea what was wrong with
    me.


    Sent a text to sarah making my apologies for
    being late and knew I wasn't gonna get to go
    shopping cos I was too stressed.


    Decided the only way this day was going to
    get any momentum was to get moving. Jumped
    into the car and dropped her purse into the
    office and knew I needed coffee and some
    sorta flapjack to get thru the session.


    Made it to Kennedy's in Fairview for 1.20pm
    (lovely coffee shop if you know it) and
    grabbed a flapjack and coffee. And then sat
    in my car for about 45 minutes trying to work
    up the courage to train.


    I can't express how much I was dreading it.
    Ever have it that you can't focus on ANYTHING
    other than worry itself?


    That's where I was at.


    Around 2.10pm I made the 2 minute drive back
    to the gym (yup... sitting in the car for 45
    minutes rather than make a 2 minute drive).


    And made a deal with myself that whatever
    happened today in the gym happened, and that
    I just wanted to get thru the session as
    close to what I had planned as possible.


    It was going to be a box checking workout and
    no more.


    ...and then something strange happened. The
    workout just kept getting better and better.
    It was one of my best workouts of the year.
    Seriously.


    I ended up pulling a 200kg x8 deadlift (no
    belt) at the end of the session and not
    really feeling at all taxed after it either.


    My bench performance (117.5kg 8x3 paused) was
    better than last week. And so was my power
    cleans and incline benching.


    Can't explain it at all.


    I don't know what a panic or anxiety attack
    feels like. I dunno if I've ever experienced
    one (and I refuse to go google it now). But
    I'd say I had one, or was right on the verge
    today.


    And there really was nothing behind it other
    than me.


    I still can't pin it to a root cause other
    than being slightly outta whack schedule
    wise.


    I just fired a text off to Conor asking him
    to take the 5.30pm class tonight on his own
    cos I'm still too worked up, but I can feel
    myself calming.


    The food's there ready to be eaten, a quick
    shake to go down before hand.


    I now have about 3 hours to just relax and
    unwind, and try to collect my thoughts.


    So what's the take home?


    Well, I'm not perfect. I definitely have my
    own mental battles to face, and sometimes
    they get the better of me.


    When you're faced with a perceived
    insurmountable struggle, sometimes the first
    thing you have to do is just start moving
    forwards. One step (get in the car)


    One you've got a bit of momentum going, take
    the next step (fuel up).


    And then just hang on for the ride and see
    what happens.


    It could turn out good. It could turn out
    bad.


    Or the chain of events you just set in motion
    could take off like a ****ing rocket ship and
    drag you to a good place you never expected
    to be.

    Here's the DL;



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Great idea and fair play for sharing. I guess most people who you coach, workout with and even the ones who only know the boards Hanley persona, would say Hanley is the last guy I would have thought would be anxious.

    We should all be conscious of the fact that you never can know what’s going in people’s lives and minds at any given time.

    What’s helped me a lot on bad days is mindfulness techniques its simple being aware of your emotions and how they are manifesting physiologically. Breathing and talking some time out can help let those thoughts\emotions pass or spot them growing into something bigger that they actually are. Loads of reading and some good podcasts on mindfulness out there.

    A good read also is a book called ‘The Chimp Paradox’ by Steve Peters it helps you to understand what’s going on in our brains and why or minds go racing off and at times we spiral into anxious states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Tony Bates had a piece in the health supplement of the Times each week last year entitled A Year oof Living Mindfully. It was actually a really good read, especially since I was a bit sceptical about it.

    Great way of dealing with a lot of things....acknowledging how you feel, accepting it rather than make excuses, and then work through it in a peaceful relaxed way. Amazing how relaxed it can make you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    siochain wrote: »
    Great idea and fair play for sharing. I guess most people who you coach, workout with and even the ones who only know the boards Hanley persona, would say Hanley is the last guy I would have thought would be anxious.

    Well see here's the thing - so did I. First time it's ever really happened.

    There's no "persona". What you see is pretty much what you'll get in person too.

    One characteristic I like to think I have is a good sense of self awareness, and liek yourself and Alf said the processes outlined are things I've trained myself to do intuitively.

    So I can usually recognise what's going on with them. Handling them is another story tho. Just moving one step forward yesterday really helped.

    About to cook some grub so will keep an eye on this thread and respond where I can.

    Heard the chimp paradox being mentioned numerous times now from different people in different fields so I must get it. Anyone know if there's an audio book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Is it always possible to do it intuitively though?

    I'm not saying it isn't - just thinking out loud.

    Writing it down would certainly have helped anyway, I'd have said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Yeah it's available on audible.com and maybe elsewhere too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Even though your making progress on your lifts it could be your CNS telling you you need a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Hammar


    Great idea for a thread,
    I've lost count of the amount of nights (particularly at the weekend) which I've laid awake for an hour or two thinking about the workout the next morning, how many times I've sat in the car trying to talk myself out of going to the gym, and pulled the car over to the side of the road when I'm halfway there to decide whether i should turn the car around or not.
    I've only ever returned home once or twice, on the latter occasions,but its unbelievable,how the feeling just disappears once you start lifting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Hanley wrote: »
    There's no "persona". What you see is pretty much what you'll get in person too.

    Yeh he's b@llix here and a b@llix in real life :D

    I went to CBT for anxiety attacks a few years back. Can't even remember my last one but I do remember that god awful feeling of everything closing in on top of me.

    Best way I found to cope with them is to just breathe through them, think happy thoughts and then get up and MOVE. Go for walk, go for a run just do something. Don't just sit there moping about it. The adrenaline rush only lasts up to 20min so if you get it into your head that it's going to pass sooner or later, for me anyway it passes sooner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭CL7


    siochain wrote: »
    Great idea and fair play for sharing. I guess most people who you coach, workout with and even the ones who only know the boards Hanley persona, would say Hanley is the last guy I would have thought would be anxious.

    We should all be conscious of the fact that you never can know what’s going in people’s lives and minds at any given time.

    What’s helped me a lot on bad days is mindfulness techniques its simple being aware of your emotions and how they are manifesting physiologically. Breathing and talking some time out can help let those thoughts\emotions pass or spot them growing into something bigger that they actually are. Loads of reading and some good podcasts on mindfulness out there.

    A good read also is a book called ‘The Chimp Paradox’ by Steve Peters it helps you to understand what’s going on in our brains and why or minds go racing off and at times we spiral into anxious states.

    Bought 'The Chimp Paradox' after reading your post a while back.Thanks for recommending it. I've already listened to the audiobook and reading the paperback now. Highly recommend it to anyone that wants to become better at dealing with their emotions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    CL7 wrote: »
    Bought 'The Chimp Paradox' after reading your post a while back.Thanks for recommending it. I've already listened to the audiobook and reading the paperback now. Highly recommend it to anyone that wants to become better at dealing with their emotions.

    I havent read the Chimp paradox at all but I have heard the author speak a few times. Not sure if its covered in the book, probably is, but what I've heard him talk about and what I find useful is to just take a minute to think about why you feel the way you do, whats causing it. Physically make a list if it helps and then look at it and see what is on that list that you can control and/or change and what is out of your control no matter what.

    If you can change it for the better, then do it, if not you need to discard it and realise worrying about won't change anything, only stress yourself.

    I suppose its part of that 80/20 rule really. You can only control 20% of what happens to you, how you react to the other 80% is up to you.


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