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Will you donate to Charity again?

  • 23-01-2014 7:46pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭


    Asssuming you have in the past of course.
    The recent news regarding charity is no doubt highly damaging.The government response to appoint a regulator for charities.Obviously these civil servant wont cost anything or be suspectiable to corruption so these sound like another quago.
    Charity is voluteering as far as I am considered..So many great people in this orgainsitions working for buttons.Why high powwered CEO's are needed is bewildering.People give money..its not like in the real world where a good CEO is the difference between HP going down the toilet or being Intel.
    I cannot even imagine mone what a CEO on E150000 does that could make such a difference to a charity.I decided long ago that the money via direct debit to a charity with a CEO on E100,000 + was silly ..I moved house many times and so if they where sending me literature I never got it ,,,and then near the end of the month you be broke ..if only I had that tenner in my account instead of e7.32.
    I like many others are no where rich enough to pay into someone else retirment fund who if they met in the street would push you out of the way.
    I prehaps naively thought charities where run by nice little old ladies and priests..maybe they used before they where hijacked.
    But at least its out in open ..the debate about charities is in every workplace lunch place ..unsuprisingly most admit to being exceddingly generous..
    Any give to Charity ..do you, will you ?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Nope, putting money into a strangers box never appealed to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    As a general rule I don't donate to charities that don't maintain a certain level of transparency. This has been my rule long before the current controversy.

    My current charity of choice, and one I will donate to in future is doctors without borders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Charity begins at home. No more money to these parasites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I only donate to local charities. Look after your own house first, as it were.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    When I had money to spare, I used to, but in recent times, just making ends meet has been a problem.

    I am very sure that I will NOT be giving to any charity that has a "professional" fund management board or similar in future, and I will also avoid charities that have "fund raising teams" that are sent out en masse to blanket bomb an area.

    That's assuming that my finances do eventually improve, which is far from given, and will depend on how the finances of the country eventually pan out.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I can't believe how bad it is.

    I am digusted with what has been going on and just shows charity is just a cover name for a profit making and high paying salary company.

    Too many do gooders in Ireland and really sick of it we are been robbed the whole time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I never donated a cent to a 'charity' with a CEO or a board in my life, and I never will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    All of these charities should be audited, but that would take some amount of time, but start with the big ones first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Nope, putting money into a strangers box never appealed to me.

    Putting something else into a strangers box does though. Ho ho! Hey hey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Nope, putting money into a strangers box never appealed to me.

    In the classier joints, they wear G-Strings.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Aestivalis


    There are plenty of charities that do a lot of community based work, who's directors, staff, and volunteers get paid absolutely nothing.

    The ones that do the most work are the ones that infact get the least public support and donations. They're really struggling in this climate. So spend some time finding out what charities and involved are active in your county.

    I've often stood out in the street for hours with a bucket. The charity I do it for only get 2 permits a year to do it, and make barely enough to keep ticking over. None of the money collected left our county and it all goes back into the community via our work . :)

    Edit: I've met the "CEO" (not his actual title) a few times of this huge charity. As far as I'm aware he doesnt get paid a cent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I just donated to the SSF here this year. Very transparent and does what it says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭carpejugulum


    of course

    stupid question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Why are Board members of a charity being paid?
    They should be volunteers.
    The CEO should be paid no more than 70K.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭washiskin


    Yes & I still bought Santa Bears (albeit in January) because even though there are certain well fed snouts in the troughs, I still believe the patients at the end of the pipeline shouldn't be at a loss because of them.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,531 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Absolutely not.
    I used to know quite a few people who worked for Oxfam and the stories of expense accounts, free round the world trips and so on just put me off the idea for life. I see no reason why they can't train local people to do the work that they choose to send people here over to do. A few researchers who'd working via grants from Cancer Research UK spun a similar story involving over staffing, lavish equipment purchases (iMacs, not actual research equipment) and so on.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I have in the past given to charities and even had a DD set up for one of them but since learning of the obscene salaries the CEOs of the bigger charities earned I've stopped. The way I figure it, if they can afford to pay their CEOs hundreds of thousands then they don't need my few quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Always made my charitable donations to charities in my home town. I knew for years that National and International Charities only get a fraction of every Euro you give. I remember about 20 or so years ago a Summer Job I got selling lines on the street for a national. I got 15% of all I sold so I can only imagine what the boss got. Stuck it out for 3 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    There's charities that pay 700k to one person.

    There's charities that pay nothing to 'CEO's' to do good honest work supporting their local community.

    There's charities that pay humble amounts to people running national charities that do sensational work to make the lives of people better.

    Google is your friend, do some research and find out the good from the bad. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Why has no one thanked this post yet?

    Why has no one thanked your post Tracksuit Clad Scumbag?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    Did a quick PM stint in very large one (not local), totally massive campaign budgets, only the VERY best ad agencies on the books, massage rooms for staff, 5* hotels jollies for intl conventions etc. Perm staff had 35hr week, 5pm finish, 6wks hols etc sweet!

    I also agreed to discount down to half of day rate out of goodness of heart -if only I'd know how many pinstripe suits there would be would have been double, lol.

    So tired of the million-aired celebs asking regular folks to sponsor a donkey/tiger/whale/pony/dolphin etc.

    When (not if) my lotto numbers or x7accum geegees come up will happily hand out 10% (natural karmanic law) of total amount via golden envelopes of 100$ to anyone who looks like they need a helping hand and cheques to the smaller front liner charities actually doing the grafting, not the chuggers/suits.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I never donated a cent to a 'charity' with a CEO or a board in my life, and I never will.

    I'd rather donate to a charity that does have a CEO and a board as they are registered and official.

    They don't all get up to the sickening antics we've seen lately by some.

    I donate to Ability West here in Galway. A local based charity providing services for people with special needs. They have a board and CAO and full time staff who ensure these services are provided in a professional manner and their books are transparent.

    As for the CRC. There are many calling for people to continue supporting them as they still desperately need funds to provide much needed services.

    No doubt this is the case but they will not get a penny from me until the money stolen from donors generosity and used to pay for golden handshakes is returned.

    When that happens I will send them €100.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I donate only to animal charities that are run by volunteers. I like to know that my money is being spent on them and not on anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    This is one of the reasons I stick with animal charities. (While things are going well, my current line of work leads to extremes ups & downs anyway..)

    I like to foster, offer to pay vet bills, or buy food. You know for a fact this is useful for them, and at least feel like you're not paying into wages.
    Plus, alot of animal charities are small.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    if you give to the church a lot of it goes to rome

    in the old days people worked for free for charitys,the ceo of a charity is probably getting half of what they could get outside,


    all salaries should be out in the open,

    if you want to attract good people you hve to pay good money,

    we have all been brought up to think charity works work for free so its hard to see them getting paid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    if you give to the church a lot of it goes to rome
    All of it goes to Rome i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Donkey sanctuary from now on ftw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    ,

    if you want to attract good people you hve to pay good money,

    we have all been brought up to think charity works work for free so its hard to see them getting paid
    I cant agree with that at all.
    If you pay good money you get people who are in it for the money.

    Look for people with commitment and drive not psychos who look after themselves, because that is what easy money attracts.
    You don't have to look far for that.
    Do you think the world's best businesses were started by moneygrabbers?

    The sure way to get ceos who think they are entitled to more money than the PM of a good sized country is to make them feel even more entitled to it.
    It's a charity, you do the maths.

    The only people entitled to the money from a charity is those it was set up to serve.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭kryptonmight


    I was on the bus one day and saw a poster from one well known charity where they asked you to text a number and something like €2.50 would get donated to them. I thought that was fair enough so I texted the number to donate the €2.50. A short time later they started phoning me with I guess the intention of trying to get more money out of me. The first day they called and were starting the whole friendly "how are you" spiel which usually is the lead in to asking for money. I didn't have time to talk to them when they phoned so they said they would call back the next day, which they did. And continued to do so for a week or two until they stopped. I recognised their number so didn't answer, so I guess they gave up.

    I think that's something that bothers me. If I donate money to something like that and then they start looking more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Yes.

    RNLI is one I donate to. Essential service that the state can't be bothered providing so rely on a charity to do it for them. They do have paid staff, but the organization is so big that any savings from getting rid of staff would be offset by inefficiencies resulting from a lack of high-level oversight.

    DSPCA. Again, they do have paid staff but they need those paid staff.

    Not all charities can get by on tinned food and bric-a-brac donations.


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