Suggestions for 10 acres free draining land

peteshamrock

Hey the father is moving back to rural life after 25 years in the big smoke. He has 10 acres of reasonably good ie free draining, land beside his house. He was looking for suggestion of what he may use the land for to supliment his income. He is reasonably fit and not a stranger to live stock husbandry, just out of practise. Would it be enough land to have a few cattle on? if so what roughly is the revenue. Any other uses?

There are sheds of the land which could be used to winter the animals.

Any constructive advise appreciated.

rs8

rent it out would prob be the easiest and most profitable thing to do with it!

mf240

Summer grazing about 16 year old bullocks or heifers and selling in the autumn would be the easiest thing. And as he's retired he would have time to scope out the marts for a few bargains. If he could rent out the sheds for the winter and keep the dung/slurry for his own land that would be a good move.

Username John

Some on here are suggesting the purchase of entitlements would be a good move. (See the two threads on entitlements)
if you read the journal, it seems the SFP is often the only profit lads have.

You mention supplement his income, well this might be the best option.

After this, you could look at cattle or sheep, or selling silage 'on the stem' (if in a dairy area and the ground is fit for silage, this could be an easy option)

sterling10

Hpw much would you get for renting 15 acres of good free draining land in Tipp?

rs8

€130 an acre? neighbour pays €150 for tillage but it usally goes for more

Username John

rs8 wrote: »

€130 an acre? neighbour pays €150 for tillage but it usally goes for more

I would have though 130 cheap? Would have said 200 euro?
Depends on the area, and if there are a dairy farmers who are eager for land.

rs8

Username John wrote: »

I would have though 130 cheap? Would have said 200 euro?
Depends on the area, and if there are a dairy farmers who are eager for land.

john your prob right down that part of the country, heard of lads giving €300 euro for tillage ground in carlow and wex crazy

peteshamrock

rs8 wrote: »

john your prob right down that part of the country, heard of lads giving €300 euro for tillage ground in carlow and wex crazy

Thats per/year right?

Timmaay

300/ac is 100% not sustainable, you can be almost sure the chap who paid that wont be in business in afew years. Much safer bet to take a lower figure on a longer term lease.

nashmach

Timmaay wrote: »

300/ac is 100% not sustainable, you can be almost sure the chap who paid that wont be in business in afew years. Much safer bet to take a lower figure on a longer term lease.

No guarantees that you will get all of that this year either when it comes to final payment!

rs8

i know the spud/carrot men are mad looking for land around here and would be prepared to pay big, again you would want to be getting that up front

Timmaay

rs8 wrote: »

i know the spud/carrot men are mad looking for land around here and would be prepared to pay big, again you would want to be getting that up front

Same around me, but do you want the P and K etc sucked out of the soil?

rs8

Timmaay wrote: »

Same around me, but do you want the P and K etc sucked out of the soil?

its not so much the crop, but the destoning and 250 hp tractors that make trenches in the field would be why i wouldnt give my land to them

Username John

rs8 wrote: »

its not so much the crop, but the destoning and 250 hp tractors that make trenches in the field would be why i wouldnt give my land to them

Yeah, it's terrible rough on land.

But - I have heard of land going up to 500 / acre, for spud ground.
Hard to argue with that kinda money...

Conmaicne Mara

Username John wrote: »

Yeah, it's terrible rough on land.

But - I have heard of land going up to 500 / acre, for spud ground.
Hard to argue with that kinda money...

Don't know what level of damage they cause, but how much of the €500/ac would be needed for reconstitution?

mf240

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Don't know what level of damage they cause, but how much of the €500/ac would be needed for reconstitution?

A few tracks and a bit of compaction. Not as bad as some would have you believe..

The_Pretender

As mf240 said, growing potatoes isn't actually that bad on the land. The stones are ploughed back into the ground after. There's always serious demand for potato land as well, my Dad's finding it hard to source more for this year, even when the going rate for it is around €400/ac :eek: