driving ban

red john

Hi. Looking for a bit of advise. Got a driving ban and was not aware that i should of handed in licence. Ban now over. Went to get insurance today, disclosed every thing to them and was told that i would need to hand my licence in to get endorsed. Did this but was told there was nothing on the system and my licence was showing as still being '' active '' in other words there was no dissqualification showing. I told them i needed to have to have it endorsed for insurers. The woman was very nice about everything but was baffled as to what i should do. My question is what the hell am i supposed to do now ?

Fred Swanson

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red john

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Where did you try to hand it into? The court or the motor tax office?

Hi. I went to the NDLS office. They have taken over from the motor tax office

Fred Swanson

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red john

Fred Swanson wrote: »

You have to hand it in to the court office. They normally send it to the tax office for endorsement.

I spoke to one of the clerks in the court today and explained the situation. He also seemed at a loss as to what to do. I think the rules have changed since two years ago. Now if you get a ban you would hand it in on the day of the court and everthing would fall into place. The problem seems to be that i'm caught in no mans land since the change over from the motor tax office and NDLS

sawdoubters

you don't need insurance if your banned

was it for drink driving,

the court clerk might not have put it in the system yet

how long ago was it some bans are for 6 months


http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/driving_offences/drink_driving_offences_in_ireland.html



go down to the district court and look up your records



http://www.courts.ie/Courts.ie/Library3.nsf/0/36C77B40A61FCB6C802577230041B064?OpenDocument

hullaballoo

red john, are you using an unofficial boards.ie app on your phone? Your posts are appearing more than once it seems and this is usually down to using an unsupported boards.ie app.

Lisa lennon

Heya im just womdering does anyone no if u have a driving bam amd never had a lisence does it start fromd day it was handed down or wen u apply for lisence thanks a million :-)

endacl

Lisa lennon wrote: »

Heya im just womdering does anyone no if u have a driving bam amd never had a lisence does it start fromd day it was handed down or wen u apply for lisence thanks a million :-)

It becomes permanent if you use txtspk when conversing with adults.

goz83

Lisa lennon wrote: »

Heya im just womdering does anyone no if u have a driving bam amd never had a lisence does it start fromd day it was handed down or wen u apply for lisence thanks a million :-)

It applies from the first day the license is active. Likewise, if you got a 2 year ban and your license expired after 1 year, the remaining 1 year ban will only count down from when you renew your license.

Little CuChulainn

goz83 wrote: »

It applies from the first day the license is active. Likewise, if you got a 2 year ban and your license expired after 1 year, the remaining 1 year ban will only count down from when you renew your license.

But you can't apply for a licence while banned can you?

Lisa lennon

Like he never had a licence e got cought in a car abput 10 years ago and e got a ban for 7 years like i no thats thats over now but if he does his theory test will he get his lisence or does d ban onlu start wen yea get yr lisemce thanks peeps

Little CuChulainn

Lisa lennon wrote: »

Like he never had a licence e got cought in a car abput 10 years ago and e got a ban for 7 years like i no thats thats over now but if he does his theory test will he get his lisence or does d ban onlu start wen yea get yr lisemce thanks peeps

That's just ridiculous. Even phones have spell check.

Lisa lennon

Are u serious spell check its cause i was typing fast cause i had the baby on me lap...

endacl

Lisa lennon wrote: »

Are u serious spell check its cause i was typing fast cause i had the baby on me lap...

Check the forum charter. And type more slowly.

goz83

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

But you can't apply for a licence while banned can you?

Yeah, you can. This happened to my brother. He got a 2 year ban on his provisional license, which only had a year left before it expired. He had moved to Sweden before the ban (in fact, it was another brother who committed the offence and gave the wrong name, but that's another story). He lived there for 8 years and when he returned home, his license had long expired and had to do a theory test to get the license. When he got it, there was a year ban applied to it.

This happened only 2 years ago.

Little CuChulainn

goz83 wrote: »

Yeah, you can. This happened to my brother. He got a 2 year ban on his provisional license, which only had a year left before it expired. He had moved to Sweden before the ban (in fact, it was another brother who committed the offence and gave the wrong name, but that's another story). He lived there for 8 years and when he returned home, his license had long expired and had to do a theory test to get the license. When he got it, there was a year ban applied to it.

This happened only 2 years ago.

Physically you can but is it not against the judgement of the court? Does a driving ban not prevent you from holding a licence or applying for one?

goz83

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Physically you can but is it not against the judgement of the court? Does a driving ban not prevent you from holding a licence or applying for one?

The ban was recorded on the back of his new permit, so he was unable to use it during the time period. In his case, it was really unfair, because the offender was our brother, who had since passed away.

If you are not allowed to apply for a license during a ban, it would not then be possible to ever get another license if your license expired during said ban. The NDLA and previously the MTO were bad enough issuing licenses. Imagine if they had a list of licenses to withhold until bans were expired :pac:

Little CuChulainn

goz83 wrote: »

The ban was recorded on the back of his new permit, so he was unable to use it during the time period. In his case, it was really unfair, because the offender was our brother, who had since passed away.

I'm not sure how it was unfair. Did he take the fall for his brother or did the brother drop him in it?

goz83 wrote: »

If you are not allowed to apply for a license during a ban, it would not then be possible to ever get another license if your license expired during said ban. The NDLA and previously the MTO were bad enough issuing licenses. Imagine if they had a list of licenses to withhold until bans were expired :pac:

I'm just telling you what the ban means. AFAIK, it is a ban on holding or applying for a licence. If your licence expires in that time you just apply for it when the ban is up.

goz83

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I'm not sure how it was unfair. Did he take the fall for his brother or did the brother drop him in it?.

The short and curly of it. Brother X moved to Sweden and got married. During that time, Brother Y was sitting in the car Brother X used to own and because he was intoxicated, with the keys in the ignition (listening to radio) outside the family home, Brother Y gave the details of Brother X (thinking maybe he lived abroad and it wouldn't matter). A summons came in the post (supposedly) and Brother X never knew about this. A 2 year ban was given as nobody turned up in court. At the time of the ban being applied, Brother X had one year left on his provisional. 4 years later, Brother Y died. 2 years more and Brother X moves back to Ireland with family and wants to get license. License expired over 5 years, so needs to start from scratch. He did theory test and applied for new learner permit, but there was 1 year left, of a 2 year ban that had been applied years earlier. We tried to chase it up and get it sorted, but the Gard involved was then stationed in Cork and was very difficult to reach. In the end, the ban stuck, because so long had passed. Personally, I would have taken it further, but Brother X just left it.

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I'm just telling you what the ban means. AFAIK, it is a ban on holding or applying for a licence. If your licence expires in that time you just apply for it when the ban is up.

He was able to apply for and receive the license. The ban was paused when his old license expired and continued years later when he got his new permit. The endorsement has the date the ban started. The length of the ban (2 years) and the expiry date of the ban. All in, the ban was given around 8 years ago and only expired a year ago. He still has the license with this written on it. Very odd, but that's the truth of it.

Little CuChulainn

Has Brother X tried talking to a solicitor about any of this?

TimeToShine

Lisa lennon wrote: »

Like he never had a licene e got cought in a car abput 10 years ago and e got a ban for 7 years like i no thats thats over now but if he does his theory test will he get his lisence or does d ban onlu start wen yea get yr lisemce thanks peeps

Infinite monkeys/typewriters and infinite time...

Fred Swanson

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endacl

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Has Brother X tried talking to a solicitor about any of this?

Is it just me, or does 'Brother X' sound like the main character from a Kung Fu fightin' 70s blaxploitation flick?

goz83

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Has Brother X tried talking to a solicitor about any of this?

I asked my solicitor at the time, but he said, as so long had passed and because the car was actually still in Brother Xs name at the time, it would not likely go his way.

To be honest, we are not even sure if Brother Y gave Brother Xs name, but it wouldn't have been beyond him at all. We will never know the truth of it.

Little CuChulainn

goz83 wrote: »

I asked my solicitor at the time, but he said, as so long had passed and because the car was actually still in Brother Xs name at the time, it would not likely go his way.

To be honest, we are not even sure if Brother Y gave Brother Xs name, but it wouldn't have been beyond him at all. We will never know the truth of it.

So his solicitor told him that even though he was in another country at the time of the offence, he would be unlikely to get it successfully appealed?

goz83

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

So his solicitor told him that even though he was in another country at the time of the offence, he would be unlikely to get it successfully appealed?

The solicitor told this to me. He would have to prove that he was in fact living in Sweden at the time. As my brother had just arrived and was staying with his partners parents for the first few weeks, there was no way to prove it wasn't him in the car without the Gard saying so. The Gard was unwilling to assist him.

darrenmac89

my 2 year driving ban is up on sunday, im just wondering does any1 no what i have to do or can i just drive as normal again,my licence was never taken off me

goz83

darrenmac89 wrote: »

my 2 year driving ban is up on sunday, im just wondering does any1 no what i have to do or can i just drive as normal again,my licence was never taken off me

You should ask in a fresh thread, because this one is old, but I think you are supposed to surrender your license once banned. afaik, you can just drive again once the ban expires and you have a valid license, assuming everything else is in order and your insurer is aware of the ban, which includes going as a named driver on another persons policy.

darrenmac89

thats the whole point of the question,i was never asked for my licence,so i duno what 2 do

FreudianSlippers

darrenmac89 wrote: »

thats the whole point of the question,i was never asked for my licence,so i duno what 2 do

You need to contact the NDLS and review our forum charter in relation to "txt speak".