fed up of multiple users...

locky76

anyone else fed up with people registering different user names and using them to pursue different agendas? I'm certainly pi55ed off with it, this forum is a great resource but can we keep it to a positive forum where like minded individuals offer positive help & advice to each other?

Conmaicne Mara

I honestly hadn't noticed. Am practicing the art of tuning out people like that.

exercise is the antidote

locky76 wrote: »

anyone else fed up with people registering different user names and using them to pursue different agendas? I'm certainly pi55ed off with it, this forum is a great resource but can we keep it to a positive forum where like minded individuals offer positive help & advice to each other?

Having multiple accounts isn't aloud as far as I know, you can be banned for having more than 1 i think..??

Why not report who you think is suspicious of doing so?

bob charles

I dont have any problems with some that closes one account and reopens a under a new name, there are valid reasons for doing such

munkus

Happening a lot lately for some reason.

moy83

munkus wrote: »

Happening a lot lately for some reason.

New year resolutions maybe !

Reggie.

bob charles wrote: »

I dont have any problems with some that closes one account and reopens a under a new name, there are valid reasons for doing such

Why would anyone do something like that :rolleyes:

jfh

bad dose of MPD(multiple Personality Disorder) going around, sure they'll be some vaccine for it soon..:p

ABlur

Be handy if they told us their former name and save us the two or three days it takes to guess.

munkus

some decepticons are easier to spot than others!

lord Jesus, this fu*king new phone....

Reggie.

munkus wrote: »

some deceptacons are easier to spot than others!

What little old me

Sam Kade

locky76 wrote: »

anyone else fed up with people registering different user names and using them to pursue different agendas? I'm certainly pi55ed off with it, this forum is a great resource but can we keep it to a positive forum where like minded individuals offer positive help & advice to each other?

How would you know if it were the same person?

Panch18

Why doesn't boards let you re-open an account after you have closed it?

munkus

Sam Kade wrote: »

How would you know if it were the same person?

Not hard if you follow this forum every day. You could like power washing, have a horn for jersey cows or be on your way to put manners on the boys in Syria etc....

exercise is the antidote

Every laptop, phone, tablet has an IP address, the super duper mods can... I'm not sure how it works

onyerbikepat

The Bourne Identity was on over the Christmas. Maybe that had something to do with it.

munkus

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Every laptop, phone, tablet has an IP address, the super duper mods can... I'm not sure how it works

I'd say more related to the email you register with. All of your home devices share 1 IP address, and this changes everytime your router is rebooted.

biddy2013

munkus wrote: »

some decepticons are easier to spot than others!

lord Jesus, this fu*king new phone....

ha on my phone i was asking a lad what milkings he could do and it sent as what killings can you do:eek:

C0N0R

biddy2013 wrote: »

ha on my phone i was asking a lad what milkings he could do and it sent as what killings can you do:eek:

What was his reply?!

biddy2013

C0N0R wrote: »

What was his reply?!

i sent a proper message fairly sharpish... but its a fecker now i have a cracked screen i cant fully see what i am sending

biddy2013

munkus wrote: »

I'd say more related to the email you register with. All of your home devices share 1 IP address, and this changes everytime your router is rebooted.

you use a different email address to reregister. In fairness i did have good reason to close my first account:(

Mycroft H

Hit the report button, that's what it's there for.

biddy2013

Mycroft H wrote: »

Hit the report button, that's what it's there for.

i did, in fairness the mods can not be there at all times

Miname

In fairness its a personal decision if someone wants to re-register, what difference does it make to you if they decide to change their username or not. there are loads of reasons someone might want or have to change and none of us are entitled to question this. Its supposed to be an anonymus forum, some people dont mind if others recognise them or not and some do.

J.O. Farmer

locky76 wrote: »

anyone else fed up with people registering different user names and using them to pursue different agendas? I'm certainly pi55ed off with it, this forum is a great resource but can we keep it to a positive forum where like minded individuals offer positive help & advice to each other?

Are you saying these people hold the accounts simultaneously or as many seem to think people have closed 1 account and opened another. The latter is fine at least they still can give advice. I have learned much on the boards in a few months.

GrandSoftDay

You leave a fair trail if you post here a lot. The people posting here everyday might cop people in their reincarnations but a name change might keep you more anonymous to the general public.

reilig

Lads, from our perspectiive, the users with multiple usernames usually have them to cause trouble or bully or cheat in one form or another. For that reason, boards does not allow it.

Look, there's no problem if someone closes their account and reopens with a new name. It's not an issue.

However if you suspect that someone has multiple usernames please report it and we'll look into it. We have a facility which matches IP addresses and picks out multiple usernames but we don't have the time or the energy to input all of yer usernames to check them. At the end of the day this is your forum. You guys built it with posts through the years. It's in your own interest to report issues so that we can sort them out - as mods, it is not our job to police the forum - it's our job to react to posts that you guys report!

rancher

reilig wrote: »

Lads, from our perspectiive, the users with multiple usernames usually have them to cause trouble or bully or cheat in one form or another. For that reason, boards does not allow it.

Look, there's no problem if someone closes their account and reopens with a new name. It's not an issue.

However if you suspect that someone has multiple usernames please report it and we'll look into it. We have a facility which matches IP addresses and picks out multiple usernames but we don't have the time or the energy to input all of yer usernames to check them. At the end of the day this is your forum. You guys built it with posts through the years. It's in your own interest to report issues so that we can sort them out - as mods, it is not our job to police the forum - it's our job to react to posts that you guys report!

As you say Its not an issue, their new identity doesn't be long being revealed.
It is possible to send different ip addresses, so even that is not conclusive.....isn't that how some of us got on to BFF years ago....

munkus

rancher wrote: »

As you say Its not an issue, their new identity doesn't be long being revealed.
It is possible to send different ip addresses, so even that is not conclusive.....isn't that how some of us got on to BFF years ago....

You can redirect through a proxy server to make it look like its coming from a different IP and location.

Greengrass1

munkus wrote: »

You can redirect through a proxy server to make it look like its coming from a different IP and location.

I doubt any farmer has the time to be at that crack

Conmaicne Mara

rancher wrote: »

.....isn't that how some of us got on to BFF years ago....

I got on it the normal way, they must not have liked the look of you

rs8

i never noticed and to be honest couldnt care! some people must have a lot of time on their hands

rancher

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I got on it the normal way, they must not have liked the look of you

For a while they were only letting English register, it was discussed here on boards

Conmaicne Mara

rancher wrote: »

For a while they were only letting English register, it was discussed here on boards

I know yeah, they "didn't want too many foreign types".

Actually, that quote is wrong, but it amounted to the same thing.

rs8

i signed up for bff recently, got my details, went to log in and it wasnt working! left it at that! their loss haha!

Genghis Cant

I think it's easy enough to spot some people no matter what name they post under.
I don't want to name anybody by name but there has been a few casualties here in the last while, posters that I particularly liked to read, posters that I hope are/come back as re-regs! Still the wheel keeps turning and the void is filled.
I still think it's a great forum, with a large number of really great posters.

What would I know though, I'm only new here;)

ABlur

What would I know though, I'm only new here;)[/quote]

Yeah right!!!

Reggie.

Genghis Cant wrote: »

What would I know though, I'm only new here;)

I know how ya feel

locky76

just for a bit of clarification, I've no issue with people reregistering if they've felt that they've gotten a rough time here and want to wipe the slate clean (as I've pm'd some people welcoming them back)...
It's just that I feel there's a bit of an undercurrent going on in this forum for the past few months and I think it's a pity that a few people are harming a great resource....

Username John

locky76 wrote: »

just for a bit of clarification, I've no issue with people reregistering if they've felt that they've gotten a rough time here and want to wipe the slate clean (as I've pm'd some people welcoming them back)...
It's just that I feel there's a bit of an undercurrent going on in this forum for the past few months and I think it's a pity that a few people are harming a great resource....

I understand people wanting to take some time away, and then restart anew. So reregistering in this case.
But I don't really understand why people close one account and then almost immediately reappear with a different username...

As for the last statement above, I dunno if I'd say people are 'harming' but I would kinda agree with overall sentiment of the post.

Genghis Cant

locky76 wrote: »

It's just that I feel there's a bit of an undercurrent going on in this forum for the past few months ....

Could you be a bit more specific?

bbam

Lads I think some of ye are reading far too much into the whole thing.

This is a place to pop in and see what's going on. Ask a question or maybe give an opinion if you think it have something useful to contribute.

I find it hard to remember what I read last night or the night before without noticing undertones or trends. If ye think someone is being a twat then report it to a mod. I have, and equally I've gotten a pm asking me to be more careful about what I'm posting. I don't take offence, I don't think twice about it.

If lads feel they want to re register then fine, they have their reasons. Even having two accounts - how would that harm the forum, although one password is enough to remember.

kevthegaff

havent seen whelan on this for awhile, she has hardly a new name..

reilig

locky76 wrote: »

It's just that I feel there's a bit of an undercurrent going on in this forum for the past few months and I think it's a pity that a few people are harming a great resource....

Yup,

it has happend a number of times in the last while. A new thread posted. 2 or 3 regulars have replied, then someone else responds with something off the wall and is backed up by another user who has just joined up, and even in one instance a third newcomer backed it up. It's quite obvious that it's all 1 person just trying to wind it up.

Report it lads. We'll deal with it. If people want to go to the trouble of distorting the ip addresses that their pc sends then we can't do much about that, but usually the ones who have multiple usernames have them to compensate for their lack of brain cells and would not have the ability to distort their ip address!

Rovi

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What he said!

Just by way of a bit of information, we forum mods can't see details like IP addresses, signup e-mails, or any other 'personal' data like that, but we DO have tools that can tell us if there are matches or even similarities in such data between any two members.
The site admins and tech people can delve much deeper, and there's a very established procedure for us to consult them if we're suspicious about anything.
They are VERY expert at winkling out devious troublemakers!

The general site-wide ban on multiple accounts, as explicitly stated in the site FAQ, with which I'm sure you're all very well acquainted (:D):
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq_im_new_here#faq_bie_faq_im_new_here_siterules
...is there mainly because a tiny, but dedicated, cohort of people appear to have made it their life's mission to make themselves a nuisance across the whole site.
The ban allows the admins to siteban them on sight, without prejudice, without having to get into convoluted rules-lawyering and arguments.

bob charles

Rovi wrote: »

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What he said!

Just by way of a bit of information, we forum mods can't see details like IP addresses, signup e-mails, or any other 'personal' data like that, but we DO have tools that can tell us if there are matches or even similarities in such data between any two members.
The site admins and tech people can delve much deeper, and there's a very established procedure for us to consult them if we're suspicious about anything.
They are VERY expert at winkling out devious troublemakers!

The general site-wide ban on multiple accounts, as explicitly stated in the site FAQ, with which I'm sure you're all very well acquainted (:D):
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq_im_new_here#faq_bie_faq_im_new_here_siterules
...is there mainly because a tiny, but dedicated, cohort of people appear to have made it their life's mission to make themselves a nuisance across the whole site.
The ban allows the admins to siteban them on sight, without prejudice, without having to get into convoluted rules-lawyering and arguments.

like any good commercial business the boss and bosses have to know whats going on. Anyone that thinks they are anonymous are fooling themselves. I presume even PMs can easily be seen by those above us. I would think even for the common joe soap not using computer technology that it would be very easy to pin point who a poster is if they had clocked up a fair few posts

Rovi

bob charles wrote: »

I presume even PMs can easily be seen by those above us.

We are absolutely assured that nobody can 'browse' PM's, not even the site owners, the admins, or the tech people.
If there are sufficiently strong reasons, it is apparently technically possible for someone with the correct permissions to go into the raw data of the site database, copy out the relevant code, and render that back into legible language.
This is an enormously complicated and difficult task, to be undertaken only by a highly qualified person, and would only ever be done on foot of a court order or the like.
In short, it's far easier to just ban someone

biddy2013

i asked this before but if you block someone do they know you have them blocked and can a pm be sent to you by someone you have blocked iykwim

bob charles

Rovi wrote: »

We are absolutely assured that nobody can 'browse' PM's, not even the site owners, the admins, or the tech people.
If there are sufficiently strong reasons, it is apparently technically possible for someone with the correct permissions to go into the raw data of the site database, copy out the relevant code, and render that back into legible language.
This is an enormously complicated and difficult task, to be undertaken only by a highly qualified person, and would only ever be done on foot of a court order or the like.
In short, it's far easier to just ban someone

I taught PM would be easily seen.

biddy2013 wrote: »

i asked this before but if you block someone do they know you have them blocked and can a pm be sent to you by someone you have blocked iykwim

there is a big red flashing light beside the persons name and words saying unfriended:D why would you want to be PM someone on your blocked list anyway?

Nekarsulm

Rovi wrote: »

We are absolutely assured that nobody can 'browse' PM's, not even the site owners, the admins, or the tech people.
If there are sufficiently strong reasons, it is apparently technically possible for someone with the correct permissions to go into the raw data of the site database, copy out the relevant code, and render that back into legible language.
This is an enormously complicated and difficult task, to be undertaken only by a highly qualified person, and would only ever be done on foot of a court order or the like.
In short, it's far easier to just ban someone

Don't know Rovi, I got a two week ban (I think) back a couple of years ago. This was on Adverts.ie, which I believe is the same organisation? Any way, I bid on a cycling jacket and then PM'ed the seller to arrange payment, and management jumped on me right away for my communications. Of course I hadn't read all the rules in the forum and thought it was like ebay. So not convinced.

Gillespy

I was accused of being one of these people. Needless to say, nothing came of it. I haven't received anything from a mod or admin. Accusing new members of being such people for no good reason is more of a problem than this I suggest.