VW CORRADO ON DONEDEAL-BEWARE

PLUG71

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/<snip>



Veiwed this car last night after several conversations during the day with the owner who persistantly assured us that the car was mint!

" When you see and hear this car you will want to buy it!"

Long story short the car is a CAT C WRITE OFF IN 2004.

The car also had considerably more miles showing on the Cartell check than what was showing on the car.

The owner assured us he was unaware it was written off and agreed the car was worth a lot less but was however in excellent condition.

So off we went to view the car because it looks mint in the pics and has had lots of work put into it etc etc etc.

As soon as we arrived we could see that the paint work was very poor, scratches,rust and the bonnet was laquerless!

Two sills were wrotten, head gasket had gone causing it to overheat within five minutes.

The wheels were in bad shape also. (kerbing)

To be honest it did have new brakes and new tyres.:D

Also in the ad it gives the impression that the car has just passed its NCT, which it has!

However the NCT IS NOW EXPIRED DUE TO BACK DATING. ( Not made aware off this during several contacts with the buyer).

The seller is as nice as pie on the phone but im sorry to say the car is only good for spares IMO.

! WOULD'NT NORMALLY DO THIS BUT WE TRAVELLED FOR TWO HOURS,PAID FOR THE CHECK + TIME/FUEL ETC ONLY TO BE MET BY A COMPLETE TIMEWASTER AND A SHED OF A CAR. :mad::mad::mad:

ba_barabus

Pity as they look well if cared for

The Dagda

CAT C Write Off only means the insurance company decided that it was cheaper to pay out the value of the car, rather than pay for repairs.

Your post is a bit of an overreaction IMO.

Lots of cars are misrepresented in ads to sell them and this forum would be pretty sh1t if someone started a new thread for each one.

maceocc2

Thanks for the post, it's unfortunate really, such a nice car in the ad, a little dirty on the inside but paint and wheels look well.

Chimaera

The Dagda wrote: »

CAT C Write Off only means the insurance company decided that it was cheaper to pay out the value of the car, rather than pay for repairs.

Your post is a bit of an overreaction IMO.

Lots of cars are misrepresented in ads to sell them and this forum would be pretty sh1t if someone started a new thread for each one.

For run of the mill cars you're right. However the Corrado these days is a specialist car, and one people might be willing to travel some distance to acquire if it might be a good one.

PLUG71

The Dagda wrote: »

CAT C Write Off only means the insurance company decided that it was cheaper to pay out the value of the car, rather than pay for repairs.

Your post is a bit of an overreaction IMO.

Lots of cars are misrepresented in ads to sell them and this forum would be pretty sh1t if someone started a new thread for each one.

It was a CAT C write off in 2004 and it actually means the car suffered substantial damage according to Cartell.

Overreaction?

If you heard the BS this guy told us about the car before viewing it and then to get there only to find a serious shed of a car.

Minter he said!

Headgasket gone.
Full respray needed.
Every wheel scuffed to bits.
Water in the boot & inside the car.
Bonnet opened on a piece of rope.
Both sills needed replacing.
Floor pan damaged from an impact.
Speakers missing.

We managed to drive the car approx 300 yards before it overheated and started to misfire.

Seriously did you read his advert?

With all due respect pal I only posted this as this car is in very poor condition and would'nt want anyone else to waste there time or some young fella to waste 2000 yoyo on a heap!

So excuse me for worrying about other folk.

PLUG71

maceocc2 wrote: »

Thanks for the post, it's unfortunate really, such a nice car in the ad, a little dirty on the inside but paint and wheels look well.

Seriously the wheels are all scuffed and the paintwork is beyond redemption,
Swirlmarks, scratches all over every panel and they would not mop out with a polisher.

The pics off the car look very good and thats why we went to view it.
They must have been really old pics.
Even though it was CAT C we were still willing to buy it for a little less IF it was as advertised!

johnscarry

Hold on guys... I'm the seller of this Corrado and there are two sides to all stories as we all know, this is what actually happened......!

I never mentioned the word "Mint" in any advert or conversation, with anyone!

I made him aware of the the condition of the paint work on the bonnet, amounts other "bad bits" the car has, as it's NOT mint.

He had a copy of the Cartel report BEFORE he decided to travel to view. If he was that FRIGHTENED by a CAT C [which can be very mild] why travel..?! - Alleged Cartel Report I might add - He was to send a copy of it but no sign of it.... yet?? Maybe every thing he said is BS??

The car passed the NCT on the 22nd September 2013 [app 3 months ago and has covered almost 300 miles since that] so I don't think it would have passed the test if it had "rotten sills"....? I did offer to re-test the car which would have given him a full 12 months, at my expense.

Yes, the car did over-heat but it was due to the fan which is mounted on the back of the rad, the bearings had corroded and decided to give up on the night. The car was running for 25/30 minutes indoors before the test drive and when they returned the car did steam up. The good news for me is that the fan was replaced this morning and is now driving as normal - no head gasket to be re-done, a minor issue that cost less than €50 to repair.... typical temperament from cars of this age!!??

I really don't understand some peoples expectations.... a car for the price of a bike, and is over 22 YEARS OLD with a recent NCT and they complain about kerbing damage on the alloys, some scratch's on the paint..???????

I'm really glad that all the comments so far are in support of the "seller" and not the guy who is feeling financially exhausted by the cost of a Cartel report... To be honest, I don't think he had the cash to buy the car, and was never going to buy the car - he was just looking for something to complain about on the internet...

Dord

OP, bit of an over-reaction on the write-off. Cat C basically means it would cost them more to repair than it was worth. Depending on the car, someone who really loves it may go ahead with the repairs.

BorneTobyWilde

Sounds like a job for ED China

BorneTobyWilde

I can understand both sides, OP has a right to feel frustrated .
I notice in ads on US Ebay site that when selling a car people tend to point at with their finger and photograph the bad bits, while over here is seems common to make car look better than it is.
Why not just photograph the bad points,so that buyer doesn't waste time. Buyer will see bad points in person anyway !:eek:

BorneTobyWilde

Seems who ever repaired car after it's accident gave it a poor respray.

Gene Hunt

Whilst I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion when it comes to buying or selling I have to say in my opinion I don't think it fair for the OP to come here and slate some man's car.
Yes he's entitled to his opinion and I would understand him warning others if it were a case of cut 'n shut, stolen vehicle , clocked but not because he didn't like it??. A Cat C or D isn't the end of the world some will happily buy if there's a saving to be made and some won't touch them but each to their own.

I drove over 5 hrs the other evening in a HGV to look at a commercial van down the Country and it wasn't as good as I had of hoped for, it's photos on donedeal made it look very tidy indeed and the price was a lot more than that VW I might add ...a lot as in thousands more not hundreds.
However I had a decision to make ...do I run home empty or do I try and sort a lowered price with the seller to cover any issues not mentioned.
I chose to hit him with a lower price ,a price that I felt it was worth to me and he accepted my offer.
Now had he not accepted my offer I would have run home empty and wasted a lot of time not to mention diesel as I can assure you a truck uses a lot more that a car......but I still would never of dreamed of coming on here and slating the man's van because of some issues I had with it.
I understand why you feel annoyed but ......I mean ....so the car's not as good as you hoped it would be ....it's a 1992 car?, I am glad the seller came on to give his side and I do feel for him now while the whole of Ireland may put a question mark over his car just because one fella decided to come on here shout 'BEWARE'............it's unfair in my opinion.

ShadowHearth

Kristopherus

johnscarry wrote: »

Hold on guys... I'm the seller of this Corrado and there are two sides to all stories as we all know, this is what actually happened......!

I never mentioned the word "Mint" in any advert or conversation, with anyone!

I made him aware of the the condition of the paint work on the bonnet, amounts other "bad bits" the car has, as it's NOT mint.

He had a copy of the Cartel report BEFORE he decided to travel to view. If he was that FRIGHTENED by a CAT C [which can be very mild] why travel..?! - Alleged Cartel Report I might add - He was to send a copy of it but no sign of it.... yet?? Maybe every thing he said is BS??

The car passed the NCT on the 22nd September 2013 [app 3 months ago and has covered almost 300 miles since that] so I don't think it would have passed the test if it had "rotten sills"....? I did offer to re-test the car which would have given him a full 12 months, at my expense.

Yes, the car did over-heat but it was due to the fan which is mounted on the back of the rad, the bearings had corroded and decided to give up on the night. The car was running for 25/30 minutes indoors before the test drive and when they returned the car did steam up. The good news for me is that the fan was replaced this morning and is now driving as normal - no head gasket to be re-done, a minor issue that cost less than €50 to repair.... typical temperament from cars of this age!!??

I really don't understand some peoples expectations.... a car for the price of a bike, and is over 22 YEARS OLD with a recent NCT and they complain about kerbing damage on the alloys, some scratch's on the paint..???????

I'm really glad that all the comments so far are in support of the "seller" and not the guy who is feeling financially exhausted by the cost of a Cartel report... To be honest, I don't think he had the cash to buy the car, and was never going to buy the car - he was just looking for something to complain about on the internet...

You certainly know how to show off a lump of sh**e:rolleyes:.

Who serviced the car? How come the gasket blew on the OP? Bring it out to Mongans in Currandulla. They might give you the true value of it.

JohnBoy26

PLUG71

Dord wrote: »

OP, bit of an over-reaction on the write-off. Cat C basically means it would cost them more to repair than it was worth. Depending on the car, someone who really loves it may go ahead with the repairs.

How was it an over reaction?

As stated we were still willing to buy it if it was as decribed and at a lesser price.

PLUG71

Gene Hunt wrote: »

Whilst I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion when it comes to buying or selling I have to say in my opinion I don't think it fair for the OP to come here and slate some man's car.
Yes he's entitled to his opinion and I would understand him warning others if it were a case of cut 'n shut, stolen vehicle , clocked but not because he didn't like it??. A Cat C or D isn't the end of the world some will happily buy if there's a saving to be made and some won't touch them but each to their own.

I drove over 5 hrs the other evening in a HGV to look at a commercial van down the Country and it wasn't as good as I had of hoped for, it's photos on donedeal made it look very tidy indeed and the price was a lot more than that VW I might add ...a lot as in thousands more not hundreds.
However I had a decision to make ...do I run home empty or do I try and sort a lowered price with the seller to cover any issues not mentioned.
I chose to hit him with a lower price ,a price that I felt it was worth to me and he accepted my offer.
Now had he not accepted my offer I would have run home empty and wasted a lot of time not to mention diesel as I can assure you a truck uses a lot more that a car......but I still would never of dreamed of coming on here and slating the man's van because of some issues I had with it.
I understand why you feel annoyed but ......I mean ....so the car's not as good as you hoped it would be ....it's a 1992 car?, I am glad the seller came on to give his side and I do feel for him now while the whole of Ireland may put a question mark over his car just because one fella decided to come on here shout 'BEWARE'............it's unfair in my opinion.

Its not a case of not liking it.
The car is nothing like it was described!

sawdoubters

its over 20 years old in human years that would be 80

BMJD

There's nothing in the ad that suggests that there is anything wrong with it. Why was it running for 25-30 minutes indoors before the test drive?

Kenny Logins

Paint isn't as good as it looks in the photos. Alloys are kerbed.


What else? Who says the head gasket is gone, is that just a guess?

dr.fuzzenstein

My guess is that the car does have some issues, but OP is now trying to trash it as much as possible, so no one else will buy it.
Bonnet has no lacquer on it, completely rotten sills, water in the boot, etc...
Sorry, but the guy taking the pictures would have to be a master photographer and a genius at Photoshop to make the car look that good in the pictures. Pants on fire, OP.
I can tell the interior is only so-so, but the rest looks OK.
Having the car running up to temperature before test drive would make me suspicious though, this is usually to hide some cold start issues.
Cat C write off is simply uneconomical to repair, with no structural damage.

Kenny Logins

Running a car that has been in storage isn't unusual IMHO. It's just a pity the bearings didn't give up then, it could have saved the OP a trip.

PLUG71

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

My guess is that the car does have some issues, but OP is now trying to trash it as much as possible, so no one else will buy it.
Bonnet has no lacquer on it, completely rotten sills, water in the boot, etc...
Sorry, but the guy taking the pictures would have to be a master photographer and a genius at Photoshop to make the car look that good in the pictures. Pants on fire, OP.
I can tell the interior is only so-so, but the rest looks OK.
Having the car running up to temperature before test drive would make me suspicious though, this is usually to hide some cold start issues.
Cat C write off is simply uneconomical to repair, with no structural damage.

To be fair you did'nt view this car and if you did I think your opinion might just change!

We MAY have been wrong about the headgasket maybe not.

I posted an honest account imo of what happened and if people want to see the Cartell report they can pay for it themselves.

The O/P was written not to be nasty but to be helpfull to other people.

biko

I understand your frustration OP but starting a thread to "warn off" people from a certain car isn't going to work out.

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