Ground speed pto

blue5000

Has anyone got ground speed pto on a tractor, what do you use it for? Only time I've used it is when the vanes are stuck to the pump on the vac tank. A neighbour uses it when the keenan feeder gets jammed, he just puts on groundspeed pto and reverses to free it.

simx

blue5000 wrote: »

Has anyone got ground speed pto on a tractor, what do you use it for? Only time I've used it is when the vanes are stuck to the pump on the vac tank. A neighbour uses it when the keenan feeder gets jammed, he just puts on groundspeed pto and reverses to free it.

Only ever heard of lads using it to reverse a silage harvester when blocked

f140

I have it in my fiat 110-90 but never use it. it was in the older masseys aswell like the 188

moy83

Dont have it on our tractors but it would be popular around here for using with trailers for the bog or mountain travelling

J.O. Farmer

moy83 wrote: »

Dont have it on our tractors but it would be popular around here for using with trailers for the bog or mountain travelling

What would the ground pto do for trailers on the bog or travelling on the mountain.
Are you sure it's not the differential lock your thinking of. That's a guaranteed way to bury the tractor to the back axle on the bog though.

moy83

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

What would the ground pto do for trailers on the bog or travelling on the mountain.
Are you sure it's not the differential lock your thinking of. That's a guaranteed way to bury the tractor to the back axle on the bog though.

Nope its the ground drive I'm thinking of . If there is a matching axel on the trailer it will travel anywhere when the ground drive is engaged . With the right tyres of course !

J.O. Farmer

moy83 wrote: »

Nope its the ground drive I'm thinking of . If there is a matching axel on the trailer it will travel anywhere when the ground drive is engaged . With the right tyres of course !

I've never seen a trailer like that. I see how that could help. It would be a little like 4 wheel drive if you only had a 2 wheel drive tractor. What size trailer are they and what were they originally made for.

MfMan

On the old 165 father used to engage it to start off the side flinging mud spreader.

Greengrass1

On the landini here. Father uses it weekly when he blocks the Keenan.

delaval

Greengrass1 wrote: »

On the landini here. Father uses it weekly when he blocks the Keenan.

Will you bring it up here, I've one blocked still

Odelay

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I've never seen a trailer like that. I see how that could help. It would be a little like 4 wheel drive if you only had a 2 wheel drive tractor. What size trailer are they and what were they originally made for.

Most of them trailers were orginally made as a 35:pac: Back axle, whack on a draw bar, pto shaft and tipping cage, engage ground travel and drive over/out of anything.

epfff

Odelay wrote: »

Most of them trailers were orginally made as a 35:pac: Back axle, whack on a draw bar, pto shaft and tipping cage, engage ground travel and drive over/out of anything.

You can buy them new in a 16 or 20 tonne dump trailer one of the foreign makes
Seem a great job

Odelay

epfff wrote: »

You can buy them new in a 16 or 20 tonne dump trailer one of the foreign makes
Seem a great job

Long time since I seen one of them on the go, lads here wouldn't know boggy ground if it hopped in the bed with em.

moy83

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I've never seen a trailer like that. I see how that could help. It would be a little like 4 wheel drive if you only had a 2 wheel drive tractor. What size trailer are they and what were they originally made for.

They be roughly 12 x 7 . The ones I know would all have been home made with the axels to suit what ever tractor would be pulling it .
One of the boggers near me has a 4wd 178 (I think ) with doubles on the front , trebles on the back and trebles on the trailer . He wouldnt even bother steering around a soft spot anymore !
I actually thought that ground drive pto was for powering another axel as opposed to working implements from

Greengrass1

delaval wrote: »

Will you bring it up here, I've one blocked still

The father is an expert at unblocking it now. First cut is pure hay

J.O. Farmer

moy83 wrote: »

They be roughly 12 x 7 . The ones I know would all have been home made with the axels to suit what ever tractor would be pulling it .
One of the boggers near me has a 4wd 178 (I think ) with doubles on the front , trebles on the back and trebles on the trailer . He wouldnt even bother steering around a soft spot anymore !
I actually thought that ground drive pto was for powering another axel as opposed to working implements from

Sounds like they would be good on the bog. The trebles would leave the outfit an awful width though for travelling on the road especially some heading for bogs. You wouldn't want to meet those people with fancy cars that stop way out on the road when they see you coming.

moy83

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Sounds like they would be good on the bog. The trebles would leave the outfit an awful width though for travelling on the road especially some heading for bogs. You wouldn't want to meet those people with fancy cars that stop way out on the road when they see you coming.

Yup its about 12' wide , tries to keep off the road as much as possible and have somone ahead of him when he has to travel

micraX

Driven axle of potato harvesters, unblocking potato harvesters

C0N0R

Know of a contractor near us how has a slurry tanker with ground drive, not sure of details though.

keep going

The previous tractor had it and it was handy for starting the jf 245 mower , get her turning and them put on pto

nashmach

Similar to Greengrass, on the Landini here too, never used it though.

blue5000

C0N0R wrote: »

Know of a contractor near us how has a slurry tanker with ground drive, not sure of details though.

I was thinking about that alright, you could have the pump worked hydraulically and use the ground speed to drive an axle of the slurry tank. I'm guessing Monaghan, not NZ:) Did he rig it up himself?

Some of the spud guys had a chain driven shaft off the tractor's 4wd shaft, they had a shaft running back then to drive the axle on the harvester.

Rovi

Mechanical PTO ground drive is an option on many high-end forestry timber trailers too:

delaval

Rovi wrote: »

Mechanical PTO ground drive is an option on many high-end forestry timber trailers too:

With a John Deere out front, you'd need all the help you can get

darragh_haven

delaval wrote: »

Will you bring it up here, I've one blocked still

I thought you were going to use 5 litres of petrol on that yoke.......

C0N0R

blue5000 wrote: »

I was thinking about that alright, you could have the pump worked hydraulically and use the ground speed to drive an axle of the slurry tank. I'm guessing Monaghan, not NZ:) Did he rig it up himself?

Some of the spud guys had a chain driven shaft off the tractor's 4wd shaft, they had a shaft running back then to drive the axle on the harvester.

Aye Monaghan!! I'm not sure to be honest, I think it was a NC tanker and I have a feeling it was bought new like that but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if the pump was ran off hydraulics either, I've looked at it before but that was about six years ago!! It was pulled by a Mf6190 I remember that much!

satstheway

If u put Italy hills into YouTube and scroll down you can see a newholland with a silage wagon on sowing mad stuff with a land driven wagon. About 3.30 mins long