Advance Pitstone and job bridge

Doom

I see on the indo that they want to hire 28 people, it seems a bit of a scam to line the owners pockets, surely if they want 28 people there must be a couple of full time Jobs in there.
On top of that, would you trust their workmanship? I've used them before and never really thought their work was good quality, had tyres and tracking done by them, tracking was worse afterwards.
I for one will not be using them again, especially over this....
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/firm-defends-bid-to-hire-28-interns-under-jobbridge-29927409.html

saintsaltynuts

Absolute joke at this stage.Originally thought it was a good thing thing for 3rd Level Graduates at the time if there was to be some sort of employment at the end of the line but now it's gone beyond abuse.

Doom

Ya...that company should commit to at lease to a couple of full time Jobs, no way should they be allowed have 28 job bridge positions, they have only 200 employees, you might forgive them if they had a few thousand full timers

Supergurrier

Its not all bad I took part in the scheme and got employment out of it. However the way it is structured is very open to abuse and I can understand why it would be seen as 21st century slavery

Guy:Incognito

Supergurrier wrote: »

Its not all bad I took part in the scheme and got employment out of it. However the way it is structured is very open to abuse and I can understand why it would be seen as 21st century slavery

All that means is there was a job available but they had the benefit of having you for free for the first 9 months.

Supergurrier

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

All that means is there was a job available but they had the benefit of having you for free for the first 9 months.

I agree completely but needs must.

bladespin

I've recently seen a local restaurant/coffee shop seeking serving staff on job bridge - when it gets to that point the scheme's just another joke.

Atlantic Dawn

There should be quotas on it, no company should be allowed to have more than 5% of their staff on Job Bridge, max term should be 6 months, if they don't then hire full time 50% of these staff they should not be allowed in the scheme again for 1 year.

colm_mcm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There should be quotas on it, no company should be allowed to have more than 5% of their staff on Job Bridge, max term should be 6 months, if they don't then hire full time 50% of these staff they should not be allowed in the scheme again for 1 year.

What if you only have 4 employees and you'd give one person valuable experience?

Doom

I don't think anyone would argue 1 job bridge position in a company of 4 employees, so long as it is proper training and experience, and maybe a job at the end, instead of using it as a form of cheap labour.

Supergurrier

I was under the impression it would lead to at least six months full time work after.

+ I would rather have no gap in my employment history and an outlet day to day over the moral high ground and unemployment

Marcusm

If they were giving 9months of good practical experience and structured training, I think it would be a very good thing even if they took on only a few of them at the end. I have no idea whether the training is good, though.

Atlantic Dawn

colm_mcm wrote: »

What if you only have 4 employees and you'd give one person valuable experience?

Could allow 1 in these circumstances.

colm_mcm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Could allow 1 in these circumstances.

And if you are a franchise of 40 seperate companies each with 4 employees each?
Can you get 40 then?

For a country that loves making groups and parties and boards and such, you'd think there'd be an 'independent approval board' or such that review all jobbridge positions and choose which they allow to be advertised.

I've seen bin men for.. Allied I think?, sales assistants in Centra, production line work in a local printing place, Van Driver for DPD, receptionist (which wouldn't be too bad if it weren't solely described as answering phones all day and doing little else) in a local builders place (cant think of the name), etc. all on these internship schemes.

Unlike a previous poster - I'd take the unemployment over the free labour. At least I'd have a bit of time to pay attention to my own hobbies or interests then, rather than running around feeling cheated.

I can understand interning at a place if you're trying to break into being a solicitor, judge, etc. even becoming a Reserve Garda if you're into the Gardai, or doing an apprenticeship to get a trade, but working in the local sweet shop for little over €1 per hour?


If these companies need an extra person, then they clearly have the demand for an extra person. They're not looking for someone for the sake of it. Government-approved Free labour is ludicrous.

A close friend is on JobBridge. There is ONE other employee in the company. It's a family run business. She knows there won't be a full or even part time job at the end, as there's just not enough work! She hopes to change to another one at the end of the month.

visual

A lot of years ago AnCo later to become FAS had a similar scheme. When unemployment was high in 80s early 90s

A small company I worked for took on a sales assistant for 6 months done this 5 times untill AnCo refused to give the company anymore slaves. This forsed the owner to approach the last guy he had just let go and ask him to return to work.

This was abuse back then and history repeating its self now.

The only thing it done was distort the unemployment numbers.

Doom

Marcusm wrote: »

If they were giving 9months of good practical experience and structured training, I think it would be a very good thing even if they took on only a few of them at the end. I have no idea whether the training is good, though.

They should focus on training existing employees, what some of them considered quality work left a lot to be desired.

Notch000

cowboys ted

samina

I don't like the idea of job bridge for jobs with no real training... But I think it's great for school/ college leavers who can't get work because of lack of experience to give them something to put on their cv.

bigblackmug

28 of 228 employees means a 1 in 8 chance your car will be worked upon by a novice.

skyhighflyer

Not that I needed another reason to avoid Advance Pitstop, but they've given me one anyway

Notch000

on second thought if it get 28 people offthere arses for a few months and gives them a purpose in life it cant be such a bad thing

Scortho

Surely what advance pit stop should be offering is apprenticeships and not internships?

I've done internships and it's worked out well, it got me experience that is related to my degree and future career that I wouldn't have got.
However what I'm doing in college is a lot different than what some of these internships on job bridge are offering/looking for. There was a car cleaning internship up last week in Wexford.
If it was detailing fair enough you'd have a skill that's transferable, in demand and worthwhile.
If it's car carrying then no. Cleaning a car is something you can learn yourself in a couple of days. Not 9 months.

BMJD

Slave labour and corruption; what a ****ty company

http://rabble.ie/2014/01/14/advance-scambridge/
http://www.audgen.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=478&CatID=5&StartDate=1+January+2013

Scortho

BMJD wrote: »

Slave labour and corruption; what a ****ty company

http://rabble.ie/2014/01/14/advance-scambridge/
http://www.audgen.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=478&CatID=5&StartDate=1+January+2013

Your think with the size of their fleet it'd make more sense to go direct to manufacturer and employ a few tyre fitters? And if not employ a few tyre fitters tender the fitting to the best tyre fitters in the district division.

Cantona's Collars

Notch000 wrote: »

on second thought if it get 28 people offthere arses for a few months and gives them a purpose in life it cant be such a bad thing

They hired 20 last year,guess how many got full time jobs out of it?

BMJD

Scortho wrote: »

Your think with the size of their fleet it'd make more sense to go direct to manufacturer and employ a few tyre fitters? And if not employ a few tyre fitters tender the fitting to the best tyre fitters in the district division.

of course but a free holiday was obviously nicer!

bigblackmug

bigblackmug wrote: »

28 of 228 employees means a 1 in 8 chance your car will be worked upon by a novice.

Under the close supervision of their Mentor. Like any apprentice, they shouldn't be let loose on their own. Thats the theory anyway.

Faith+1

I always used advance for the car. After hearing all this they can go fcuk themselves, can someone please recommend a good garage for a service? Im based in cabra, thanks.

bladespin

Deleted User wrote: »

Under the close supervision of their Mentor. Like any apprentice, they shouldn't be let loose on their own. Thats the theory anyway.

I'd be dubious just how good the 'mentor' is considering past dealings with Advanced, in reality it's not a garage anyway just a tyre centre that offers minor service items, any experience/training someone could receive could be sourced within an hour on youtube.

colm_mcm

Inventing imaginary jobs that need doing takes months of practice