Incremental Credits / Salary Scale

duffyshuffle

Hi,

I had a look through previous threads but have a specific query that wasn't fully answered there if anyone could lend a hand?

I worked with a degree, not hDip, in 2003, 2004, 2005 in a secondary school, with my own hours on my timetable given to me in those years.

In 2006/2007 I did the hDip in a different school (my current school), and then have had 22 hours of classes (no subbing, all my own classes in a timetable) every year since.

I contacted salaries today to see what scale i'm on on the salary scale, and i'm only on point 8, having started at point 3 in 2007/2008. They said it is because some of the hours I worked were substitution hours and therefore some years I only got .5 or .59 of a credit. The classes I thought were given from maternity leave for a language teacher, even though I teach Business, so although I was paid for other teacher's leave, i've always been timetabled 22 hours every week and had 'my own' classes. I was awarded a CID based on this case last year for full hours.

(Sorry the post is longer than I thought!)

Looking back at the hours I was paid for, they include: SN, EAL S&S Scheme, TY, Adult Education, Sub Allow, Non National, maternity and carer's leave, Learning support and Job Sharing, and finally one year had 7 hours privately paid per week.
Even though they were the hours used to pay me, I didn't teach lots of those allocated topics etc...

So, does anyone know if i'm entitled to more credits or to be higher on the scale?

And my increment was frozen for 2013, which I am aware of, so the last one given was Sept 1st 2012.

Thanks for any info or circulars etc.. that might help me!

rainbowtrout

Have a read through this and see if any of it applies to you:

http://www.tui.ie/welcome-to-our-website/second-level-incremental-credit-.2100.html

duffyshuffle

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Have a read through this and see if any of it applies to you:

http://www.tui.ie/welcome-to-our-website/second-level-incremental-credit-.2100.html

Thanks Rainbow,

I was looking at that circular linked on that page and that page earlier, thanks for pointing it out. I'm still not sure if it covers me or not.

When I rang today, pppayroll said that some of it was subbing work i.e. I didn't get paid in to the summer time, so that that isn't included in the increment for that year. Even though I was paid per hour for that period, i've always had my own hours/timetable, it was just the department hours available to give me from the principal that year.

In the circular (0029/07) it says:
Teachers employed under a Fixed-term Contract or have other part-time service since the 20th December, 2001, funded by the Department of Education and Science will be automatically credited by the Payroll Division of the Department of Education & Science with that service for salary purposes in line with records held by the Department.
and
School authorities who employ and pay teachers out of private funds should note that, if this scheme is used by those schools as a means of placing such teachers on an incremental scale, this scheme provides only for the recognition of service given in second level schools which are recognised by the Minister for Education and Science in accordance with the Education Act 1998, a list of which is published annually by this Department.

In the first part, should I be entitled to the 'subbing' hours?
In the second part, should I be entitled to the hours paid privately as a teacher?

Thanks for the input

UnLuckyAgain

'Subbing' hours i.e. casual or non-casual hours worked in an academic year are aggregated and you are entitled to an increment once you hit 600 hours. You need either 300 casual + 300 non-casual or else 600 non-casual to receive an increment.

Other than that, it should be an increment for each year worked on an RPT contract.

Does that help at all?

duffyshuffle

UnLuckyAgain wrote: »

'Subbing' hours i.e. casual or non-casual hours worked in an academic year are aggregated and you are entitled to an increment once you hit 600 hours. You need either 300 casual + 300 non-casual or else 600 non-casual to receive an increment.

Other than that, it should be an increment for each year worked on an RPT contract.

Does that help at all?

Yep, that seems to help, I have been 22 hours each year teaching, so it shouldn't matter that they were subbing/casual, once I hit 600 hours? Thanks!

So re: the privately paid hours, from what i've read I should also be entitled to them?

I've emailed pppayrole to ask for breakdown of which years I didn't get an increment and why and will try figure it out then!
Thanks

UnLuckyAgain

Not sure about privately paid hours, sorry.

I did 22 hours one year, a few weeks casual and then the rest non-casual for the entire school year but when it came to gaining an increment, I had to make up some hours the following September - whatever way they calculate it when you have a mixture left me short. So just be aware that it may not be as simple as one full year subbing gets you an increment.