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new battery drill

  • 15-01-2014 10:45pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭


    going to buy a new battery drill. the one I have now is a joke. bought one in Halfords a few years ago for €50 thinking I was getting a bargain as it had two batteries. now one battery doesn't work/charge and the other is dead after drilling one hole through timber.


    what should I be looking out for when buying one. is Makita still the best? would €200 buy a decent one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Bosch, or Panasonic . Not the green homebase Bosch either.
    If it's sds, I like the 36v Bosch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Recommend the DeWalt 18V I picked up on Amazon over Christmas. Lithium Ion batteries x 2, charger and drill for £130, normally £180. Nice and light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Buy lithium ion anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    got a good dewalt from homebase or one of those pretty cheap about a year ago. cant fault it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    what volt then would be recommended.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    f140 wrote: »
    what volt then would be recommended.
    Do you want an sds or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭flat out !!


    Hitachi 18 volt lithium battery, excellent drill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Hitachi 18 volt lithium battery, excellent drill.
    + 1 the 4amh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭GY A1


    18v dewalt is great drill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭maxxuumman


    ... And with the dewalt if you have the charger and battery's you can get other tools ( angle grinder, impact wrench, etc), on their own without battery or charger or case and they work out very cheap. The new li-ion dewalt batteries are excellent btw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    Picked up milwaukee 18v drill and driver and 2 batteries 3ah lithium on ebay in u.s for about 200 euro delivered. It was new but not in box. And then got a 1/2" impact gun for a bit less with 4ah battery.
    My reason for going milwaukee was impact gun is 2nd most powerful18v there is only beaten by Ingersoll rand.
    So when you pick a make look at all there items you can use with same batteries. As the batteries are the dear part. Ebay has lots of body only deals.
    Dewalt was my second choice as they have big range of stuff. But beware in u.s they have stopped developing the 18v and now dewalt is pushing 20v instead.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    ... And with the dewalt if you have the charger and battery's you can get other tools ( angle grinder, impact wrench, etc), on their own without battery or charger or case and they work out very cheap. The new li-ion dewalt batteries are excellent btw.
    +1 I'd recommend the torch anyway

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    I've a Makita 18V Combi drill. Great drill and really fast to charge. Came with a second battery as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Picked up a Makita BHP456 18V Li-ion batteries. Very happy with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭GY A1


    maxxuumman wrote: »
    ... And with the dewalt if you have the charger and battery's you can get other tools ( angle grinder, impact wrench, etc), on their own without battery or charger or case and they work out very cheap. The new li-ion dewalt batteries are excellent btw.

    +1 can add on other stuff, handy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 D-mac


    Fiskar wrote: »
    Recommend the DeWalt 18V I picked up on Amazon over Christmas. Lithium Ion batteries x 2, charger and drill for £130, normally £180. Nice and light.

    hard to beat that for value for money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 D-mac


    stanley is rebranded DeWalt, excellent value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Askim


    Its not just the voltage, I have an 18v XRP Dewalt drill, it has 3 power settings, normally use the middle setting, but when I need power down to the low setting & it drive a no6 120mm screw in anywhere as deep as you want.

    I also bought 2 new batteries, when they start to loose any power, then swap & recharge, will stop damage to battery.

    Also have a car charger for batteries, never use wall one, usually have car with me

    A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Following on from this, which electric drills are good value? My own needs replacing as the chuck is quite worn now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Askim


    MfMan wrote: »
    Following on from this, which electric drills are good value? My own needs replacing as the chuck is quite worn now.

    Depends on what you want to use it for, I have cheap drill for general use, small piller drill for steel, & Bosch sds drill for stone & concrete.
    All heavy diy ones, for occasional use.

    A


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh


    have a 18v de walt years now - great yoke. saw it on offer for e99 in woodies iirc a while ago. oul boy got a lidl one for 50 - grade a junk. now he just uses mine!
    had a bosch plug in drill n burnt out in no time a year ago, replaced with a dewalt but havent done much guntering with it yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    Has anybody any experience of these new brushless motors Dewalt are offering?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Apologies for resurrecting this old thread!
    Any recommendations for an 18 volt cordless drill? Anyone bought one lately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Apologies for resurrecting this old thread!
    Any recommendations for an 18 volt cordless drill? Anyone bought one lately?

    Dunno what your budget is but a fella that does a few jobs got a Milwaukee drill serious yoke, they are dear tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Apologies for resurrecting this old thread!
    Any recommendations for an 18 volt cordless drill? Anyone bought one lately?

    Budget? How much work will it be doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭dev100


    Mooooo wrote:
    Dunno what your budget is but a fella that does a few jobs got a Milwaukee drill serious yoke, they are dear tho

    I ordered a Milwaukee battery drill for work / do a small bit of steel work etc I got the M18 version drill and very happy with it so far. it's nice and light and compact and for the size of it has a nice bit of pep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Budget? How much work will it be doing?

    Not much work nowadays. Budget around 150, 200 at a stretch.
    I have an 18v Milwaukee with 13 years, batteries are shot now. I wouldn't need a drill that good anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Not much work nowadays. Budget around 150, 200 at a stretch.
    I have an 18v Milwaukee with 13 years, batteries are shot now. I wouldn't need a drill that good anymore.

    Theres a decent looking makita one on screwfix on offer - €206.95. 18V 3.0ah, was looking at it myself.
    http://www.ie.screwfix.com/makita-dhp459sfe-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-lxt-cordless-brushless-combi-drill.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Suckler wrote: »
    Theres a decent looking makita one on screwfix on offer - €206.95. 18V 3.0ah, was looking at it myself.
    http://www.ie.screwfix.com/makita-dhp459sfe-18v-3-0ah-li-ion-lxt-cordless-brushless-combi-drill.html

    Fine drill, any opinion on the Dewalt drill beside it for 145.95?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Fine drill, any opinion on the Dewalt drill beside it for 145.95?

    Had Dewalt drills for years, have a 9.6v one here I bought in 98ish that still going well. New batteries a few years ago but thats to be expected.

    The dewalt one is 4.0ah battery but you only get one of them. If you don't need two batteries it could be one to look at. Personally I prefer two batteries. Will always find it runs out just when you need it or someone not charging it when its spent and you've to wait an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Suckler wrote: »
    Had Dewalt drills for years, have a 9.6v one here I bought in 98ish that still going well. New batteries a few years ago but thats to be expected.

    The dewalt one is 4.0ah battery but you only get one of them. If you don't need two batteries it could be one to look at. Personally I prefer two batteries. Will always find it runs out just when you need it or someone not charging it when its spent and you've to wait an hour.

    I missed the bit about the one battery! I agree 2 batteries is better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Bitten & Hisses


    Another vote for the Makita 18V here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    Just a small note on pricing. I've noticed a huge discrepancy between Amazon and bricks and mortar shops on Bosch drills. I've a little 18v Bosch that I'm very happy with and bought for ?50 that I've see on sale for €180.

    I'm only doing very light drilling though, so I won't recommend the one I use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,577 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Not much work nowadays. Budget around 150, 200 at a stretch.
    I have an 18v Milwaukee with 13 years, batteries are shot now. I wouldn't need a drill that good anymore.

    If the drill is ok you can get the batery's packs rebuild. For an 18V fairly good capacity battery's will cost about 60-80/battery. New rebuld battery's are fusually higher capacity than older battery's and are often stronger in capacity than some modern batteery's. If you check out in any fairy large town there will be lads doing it.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    If the drill is ok you can get the batery's packs rebuild. For an 18V fairly good capacity battery's will cost about 60-80/battery. New rebuld battery's are fusually higher capacity than older battery's and are often stronger in capacity than some modern batteery's. If you check out in any fairy large town there will be lads doing it.

    I know of a few batteries that have been reconditioned like you say and they haven't lasted at all. Also my drill had alot of work done.
    The lithium ion batteries with the new drills are also an attraction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    18v DeWalt here. 4ah battery and a charger came to €215 last October.
    Screwfix normally have deals on.
    Lassie in work got an 18v Makita today with Screwfix for €206 with a charger and a 3ah battery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,717 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    18v DeWalt here. 4ah battery and a charger came to ?215 last October.
    Screwfix normally have deals on.
    Lassie in work got an 18v Makita today with Screwfix for ?206 with a charger and a 3ah battery.

    Have an 18v Makita here, great dril.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Who2


    ive most of the various milwaukee drills here, and to be straight about it, if you can justify spending the bit extra, they are about the only drills on the market that will take a good beating. ive had a good few hitachi drills and the batteries (even the new ones) are pure scrap. theres lads swear by the dewalt but i wouldnt be a fan. ive a few makita ones that are a fairly right drill at reasonable money and would recommend for bits and pieces but the thing with cordless gear is it needs to be used regularly, if its left up for long periods of time the batteries start to fail. By right it needs work every couple of weeks at a minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    I've a Bosch 18v here for years, batteries gave up so i ordered a new one for 35euro, twice the capacity as the old batteries and i'm delighted with it, may be a cheaper option instead of buying a new unit.

    If you're buying new, pay as much attention to the batteries you're getting with it as the drill itself, you'll spend more on the batteries than everything else combined.
    Pay attention to what type of charger comes with it, fast charger or slow charger, if it was my money i would'nt go for anything less than 3.0aH batteries.

    IMO Milwaukee and dewalt are about on par, those would be the big two i'd say, black & decker are owned by dewalt and are their entry level drill, same goes for Ryobi and their parent brand Milwaukee, just my 2 cents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,577 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I've a Bosch 18v here for years, batteries gave up so i ordered a new one for 35euro, twice the capacity as the old batteries and i'm delighted with it, may be a cheaper option instead of buying a new unit.

    If you're buying new, pay as much attention to the batteries you're getting with it as the drill itself, you'll spend more on the batteries than everything else combined.
    Pay attention to what type of charger comes with it, fast charger or slow charger, if it was my money i would'nt go for anything less than 3.0aH batteries.

    IMO Milwaukee and dewalt are about on par, those would be the big two i'd say, black & decker are owned by dewalt and are their entry level drill, same goes for Ryobi and their parent brand Milwaukee, just my 2 cents.

    where did you get the 18V battery for 35 euro that was good value.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Who2


    Two completely different levels of kit. De walt wouldn't stand a patch on milwaukee, the lasting alone in the tools are far superior,before you even start to look into functionality of them.

    IMO Milwaukee and dewalt are about on par, those would be the big two i'd say, black & decker are owned by dewalt and are their entry level drill, same goes for Ryobi and their parent brand Milwaukee, just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Who2 wrote: »
    Two completely different levels of kit. De walt wouldn't stand a patch on milwaukee, the lasting alone in the tools are far superior,before you even start to look into functionality of them.

    Milwaukee used to be the business, but their stuff is no where near as good as it used to be in my opinion. Dewalt used to be overpriced expensive rubbish but the last 7 or 8 years they have started to make decent stuff.

    If you want bulletproof tools then Hilti is the best of the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Milwaukee used to be the business, but their stuff is no where near as good as it used to be in my opinion. Dewalt used to be overpriced expensive rubbish but the last 7 or 8 years they have started to make decent stuff.

    If you want bulletproof tools then Hilti is the best of the best.

    Go amd research yer stuff. Hilti small stuff are a ball of scrap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Who2


    I've a leaded Hilton drill bought new in 1999, still going well and used every day but their battery gear is way overpriced. When you see a company offering finance on a cordless drill you know they are too dear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Jaysus Christ lads will ye put yer drills back in yer handbags and quit the bi*ching! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 dodod


    Hilti are very good I have the full range of 22v never had a any trouble the usually have special offer in December i do agree that there over priced same power as mains in cordless tools


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Would highly recommend this Dewalt brushless cordless drill/hammer. As I had the old brushed version (which still works well) and came with 2 batteries I was able to get the body on ebay for £73. This is the full kit with 2 batteries and charger and reduced on Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dewalt-DCD796D2-GB-Brushless-Compact-Lithium-Ion/dp/B019CXIPYS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497648922&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+dcd796


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Panasonic used to make quality cordless equipment. Not sure if they were bought out or what happened


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