Scratch Cups 2014

fearruanua

Now I know its a little bit early..but a few dates for the diary

Tralee Golf Club

Junior Scratch Cup Saturday 3rd May 2014

Intermediate Saturday 31st May 2014

Senior Saturday 5th July 2014

PS Lets hope the weather is better than it was last year for the intermediate scratch cup!!! : )

Miley Byrne

Thanks for that, hadn't spotted that one

Ballybunion Junior Scratch (Old Course) Sunday 25th May

Both are must-plays for me anyway

Rikand

Tullamore junior scratch cup 22 June.

Not too many scratch cups up yet on the gui site

peepee

Now I know its a liitle bit early..but a date for the diary

Tralee Golf Club Junior Scratch Cup Saturday 3rd May 2014

PS Lets hope the weather is better than it was last year!! : )

Fear what website did you see this on? Cant find it on tralee site
Do u know the handicap range?

Benicetomonty

Headfort Senior Scratch Cup being played in May this year, and over 72 holes. That'll be hard work!

charlieIRL

Have decided I'm going to play a scratch cup this year!

bailey99

fearruanua wrote: »

Now I know its a liitle bit early..but a date for the diary

Tralee Golf Club Junior Scratch Cup Saturday 3rd May 2014

PS Lets hope the weather is better than it was last year!! : )

Will be in Cancun for this, which is a pity. Actually it's not!!!! lol

Will play Bally B for sure though.

14handicap

Is there any website that lists all the scratch cups in Ireland?

big_drive

GUI site fixtures section will have most of them

CarefulNow!

charlieIRL wrote: »

Have decided I'm going to play a scratch cup this year!

Me too!

Rikand

14handicap wrote: »

Is there any website that lists all the scratch cups in Ireland?

http://www.gui.ie/home/playing-golf/open-fixtures.aspx

Select "Scratch Cup" from the "Fixture Type" setting.

Most scratch cups arent up yet as most clubs are still putting together their fixture lists. Be early february before they are all up.

fearruanua

peepee wrote: »

Fear what website did you see this on? Cant find it on tralee site
Do u know the handicap range?

I rang the club yesterday to ask. Not on their website yet.

Not really sure of the handicap ranges... at a guess

Senior 1-5
Junior 6-11
Intermediate 12-18.

I stand to be corrected

Neil Andblomee

fearruanua wrote: »

I rang the club yesterday to ask. Not on their website yet.

Not really sure of the handicap ranges... at a guess

Senior 1-5
Junior 6-11
Intermediate 12-18.

I stand to be corrected

Tralee JSC is 5-9 iirc and no drop downs allowed.
Nice to see it moved to June from the usually early April date.

millerj

peepee wrote: »

Fear what website did you see this on? Cant find it on tralee site
Do u know the handicap range?

played the Intermediate last year and it was from 10 upwards. From memory I think 87 gross won which in the conditions on the day was a fantastic score

scotindublin

denisoc16 wrote: »

Thanks for that, hadn't spotted that one

Ballybunion Junior Scratch (Old Course) Sunday 25th May

Both are must-plays for me anyway

Any idea if the Ballybunion JSC is 18 or 36?

Benicetomonty

scotindublin wrote: »

Any idea if the Ballybunion JSC is 18 or 36?

Only 18 Id say. The senior scratch is 36 but not the junior. Was the case the last couple of years.

Neil Andblomee

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Only 18 Id say. The senior scratch is 36 but not the junior. Was the case the last couple of years.

Yes 18 according to their website and the senior is 36 (both courses) on the 17th May.

scotindublin

Neil Andblomee wrote: »

Yes 18 according to their website and the senior is 36 (both courses) on the 17th May.

Looks like 5 and under for the Snr....an incentive to stay at 5 or get lower by May!

Redzah

scotindublin wrote: »

Looks like 5 and under for the Snr....an incentive to stay at 5 or get lower by May!

Ya, no harm in throwing in an entry anyways for the SSC but in reality you will prob need to shave a couple off that and get to 3 to get into this scratch cup as the demand is strong and its a qualifying event for the munster team.

My list so far is as follows;

22/03/14 Muskerry
27/04/14 Dundalk
3/5/14 Munster Strokeplay Cork GC
5/5/14 Roscrea
17/5/14 Ballybunion
24/5/14 Castletroy
21/06/14 Kilkenny
5/07/14 Tralee
6/09/14 Killarney
13/09/14 Galway
21/09/14 Castlemartyr

Wichita Lineman

May 24th Moate Golf Club, Junior and Intermediate Scratch Cups.

Minor section tbc.

ratzy

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

May 24th Moate Golf Club, Junior and Intermediate Scratch Cups.

Minor section tbc.

Will be giving the intermediate a good bash...had 49 points around moate last summer was in fantastic condition all summer.

Dr_Colossus

ratzy wrote: »

Will be giving the intermediate a good bash...had 49 points around moate last summer was in fantastic condition all summer.

What an embarrassing score, why aren't you in the junior.

ForeRight

I assume that's some sort of trolling?

Rikand

That kind of scoring happens in Moate. If you're on your game, you can really take it apart. Never happens to me though, lol

FixdePitchmark

ratzy wrote: »

Will be giving the intermediate a good bash...had 49 points around moate last summer was in fantastic condition all summer.

What is your handicap.
How could you be 13 shots under your handicap.
Was it the best round of your life.

Wichita Lineman

Rikand wrote: »

That kind of scoring happens in Moate. If you're on your game, you can really take it apart. Never happens to me though, lol

???? 49pts in Moate would be rare enough - like most other courses. In the whole of 2013 there was one winning score of 49, 2 with 46 and 1 with 45. Maybe someone else did it 'casually' I wouldnt know.

Intermediate Scratch Cup - 26th May 2013 - Stroke
Competition Standard Scratch: 71Prize Name Handicap Score 1st Gross Jimmy Kassaris 13 78 Gross 2nd Gross David Mullin 12 80 Gross 1st Nett Pat O Brien (Ath) 13 68 Nett 2nd Nett Danny O Connor 13 68 Nett

Rikand

There was still 1 winning score of 49 though as you said yourself. Obviously my sample size is probably based on years and years of hearing about scores over there, so it would be quite an accumulation.

I'm not trying to put Moate down or anything, I'm just saying if someone is on their A game, in the summertime, it's definitely possible there.

FixdePitchmark

Rikand wrote: »

There was still 1 winning score of 49 though as you said yourself. Obviously my sample size is probably based on years and years of hearing about scores over there, so it would be quite an accumulation.

I'm not trying to put Moate down or anything, I'm just saying if someone is on their A game, in the summertime, it's definitely possible there.

49 pts should never be possible.

Should be an immediate 5 shot off handicap

Redzah

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

49 pts should never be possible.

Should be an immediate 5 shot off handicap

lol, so simple but so effective. Where would you draw the line? What is the points cut off where some1 does not get cut by 5 shots? How did this filter into a scratch cups thread where handicaps don't apply (with the exception of those on the buffer)?

Rikand

Your right, back on topic

hoping to hit up all the local scratch cups myself so hopefully get to moate aswell ,:)

ratzy

was off 19 i was 3 under after 3 holes ...played it again a week later moate can be very tough with some of the pin positions.

FixdePitchmark

ratzy wrote: »

was off 19 i was 3 under after 3 holes ...played it again a week later moate can be very tough with some of the pin positions.

I don't think a course can ever be defined as tough , if somebody got 49 points on it.

I was thinking that anybody can be 9 shots better than their handicap. This would be a less than 1 in 100 event. Like a pro having a 63 - but we are not pros so the event should be even more rare. As a tour pro is in reality at a handicap +5 - so it is a tour pro having a 58.

So 36 + 9 = 45. That is what I'm saying should be feasible.

So if you score 45 = 45 = (1) is removed from your handicap - new handicap 18
etc.
so if you score 49 = (5) your new handicap should be 13.

It is hypothetical - but we can't have lads scoring over 45 unless it is a 1 in 100 sort of event. I'd be saying 1 in a 1000 in reality.

It can happen - but should be very rare.

Did you score over 45 ever again ?
Did you get cut soon after ?

Well done by the way - was it an eagle - birdie
Birdie - Birdie - Birdie
Albatross - ?

yettie1701

Are scratch cups not stroke play? So 49 points should be a different comp.
scratch cups in Gowran Park this year are Intermediate scratch cup Sunday 13 July, senior and junior scratch cup Sunday 14th of September. All would be very welcome.

Rikand

yettie1701 wrote: »

Are scratch cups not stroke play? So 49 points should be a different comp.
scratch cups in Gowran Park this year are Intermediate scratch cup Sunday 13 July, senior and junior scratch cup Sunday 14th of September. All would be very welcome.

Thanks for bringing the scratch cup thread back on topic

ratzy

Any other intermediate scratch cups on before june?

Mr. Larson

ratzy wrote: »

Any other intermediate scratch cups on before june?

Loads. Go to the GUI site http://www.gui.ie/home/playing-golf/open-fixtures and filter. I've done a quick search for Intermediate between now and June - see attached.

yettie1701

Rikand wrote: »

Thanks for bringing the scratch cup thread back on topic

No problem

golfguy1

Senior scratch in dungarvan golf club
April 6th
36 holes
Played in a fourball b/ball format off scratch.
Great event last yr (except the storm and deluge rain)

Smithy101

All the topgolfer.ie scratch cups are run very well. Taking in some nice tracks this year. Kicks off in Fota Island on the 16th of this month.

http://www.topgolfer.ie/events/

golfguy1

Have a look at the link below for anyone interested in a senior scratch cup.
Brilliant event on a good course
http://www.irishgolfdesk.com/news-files/2014/3/5/greene-and-gorey-team-up-for-another-dungarvan-birdie-blitz

mike12

Am i correct,
Senior usually less that 5.
Junior 5 to 9 or 10
Intermediate 9 to 18
Junior 18+

alxmorgan

mike12 wrote: »

Am i correct,
Senior usually less that 5.
Junior 5 to 9 or 10
Intermediate 9 to 18
Junior 18+

I've generally found:

Intermediate 11/12 to 18
Minor 18+

Tones69

alxmorgan wrote: »

I've generally found:

Intermediate 11/12 to 18
Minor 18+

Intermediate in most is 10-17 i believe? Cant wait for junior scratch (5-9) in bunclody april 26th!

Rikand

Might give clody a dart myself. Chattin to the pro here at a wedding right now lol

yettie1701

Rikand wrote: »

Might give clody a dart myself. Chattin to the pro here at a wedding right now lol

New pro started in Bunclody yesterday. Garry McClean is his name. Never had a lesson off him but I know a few that did and liked him. He was in the driving range in Carlow so just moved across the county. Any other dates for any scratch cups around the country?

Milkers

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

I was thinking that anybody can be 9 shots better than their handicap. This would be a less than 1 in 100 event. Like a pro having a 63 - but we are not pros so the event should be even more rare. As a tour pro is in reality at a handicap +5 - so it is a tour pro having a 58.

No it would in fact be much more common from a basic probabilities POV. As handicaps and scoring averages get lower so will the variance. It is statistically much more likely a higher handicap will shoot 9 under their handicap than a Tour Pro.

Carpo86

Milkers wrote: »

No it would in fact be much more common from a basic probabilities POV. As handicaps and scoring averages get lower so will the variance. It is statistically much more likely a higher handicap will shoot 9 under their handicap than a Tour Pro.

This is certainly correct from a probability perspective. It should be remembered though that a Tour Pro's 'handicap' is likely be to considerably better than scratch.

indabunka

36 hole Junior & Senior Scratch Cups at Royal Curragh (formerly The Curragh) on Sunday 27th April
Handicaps
Senior + to 4
Junior 5-9

Entry fee €30 which includes a meal

Unfortunately Senior clashes with Dundalk on the same day

Greens are very good at present and now that the sheep are gone it should be a good test of golf.

Dr_Colossus

Lucan SSC (0-3) and JSC (4-10) timesheet for Sun 4th May now live on their website. Both events 36 holes with entry fee set at €20 for members and €30 for visitors which includes soup and sandwiches.
Great value and a nice course so a lovely day out if the weather behaves. JSC timesheet already starting to fill up (not sure why they don't extend the SSC to 4 handicap and leave the JSC at 9).
Not a member but played the JSC last year and it was well run so hoping for better form this year.

mister gullible

Curragh JSC €30 with meal and Lucan JSC €30 with soup and sambo.
Castle JSC today was €40 just for golf. It was a Top Golfer event. Is it my imagination or are Top Golfer pushing up the prices for Scratch Cups?

Dr_Colossus

mister gullible wrote: »

Curragh JSC €30 with meal and Lucan JSC €30 with soup and sambo.
Castle JSC today was €40 just for golf. It was a Top Golfer event. Is it my imagination or are Top Golfer pushing up the prices for Scratch Cups?

No, that €40 fee for the Castle is down to the club rather than Top Golfer. I played a good few Top Golfer events last year including the Castle (hadn't played the course before so wanted to try it) and there was some good value among the events including 36 holes at both Beaverstown and Blainroe for €30 (no lunch however). As far as I'm aware Top Golfer attract larger numbers, organise prizes through sponsorship and the event itself on the day for which they charge the club a fee and in return the club retain the green fees which they set themselves. The Castle charging €40 for a scratch cup on a Fri did not entice me to return this year.