Child dies in SWO elevator

snubbleste

A 3 year old became trapped in the elevator shaft at the Hynes Building on Augustine Street shortly after 3pm today.
He had been in the building with his mother who was attending the Social Welfare office on the first floor of the building.
The little boy was on his own when he became lodged in the lift shaft. It is understood that he suffered crush injuries which resulted in massive blood loss. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tragic-death-of-toddler-3-in-lift-shaft-accident-29912211.html

Tragic. Guess we'll have to wait for the coroner's report to find out what happened.

barone

nigerian kid, R.I.P

PLUG71

FFS, Poor little man. :mad:

Blingy

Very sad.

Shane.C

****.

hession

Very sad poor child.But Why was a 3 year old left unattended.

Mrs OBumble

hession wrote: »

Why was a 3 year old left unattended.

Because 3 year olds can escape from attention quite easily.

A better question is why is a lift in a public building so badly maintained that it was possible for this to happen.

Redhairedguy

Alright, guys. This is a horrific tragedy for everyone in Galway. Christ almighty, all I can think of is the family. No speculation here please, nor finger pointing. Please attempt to discuss this with the respect it deserves.

DesperateDan

I don't think I've ever seen the open shaft of an elevator in my life - it must have been opened for some special reason or was some malfunction - very sad indeed.

Lapin

Awful sad news.

I thought I was having a bad day till I read this.

Thoughts are with the lad's distraught family and R.I.P young fella.

biko

Terrible indeed.

RIP little guy.

Links234

What an unbeleivably tragic thing to happen only 3 years old.

Ineedaname

Just heard about this. It's awful.

Poor little guy RIP

elfy4eva

Just hearing this now. Tragic and heartbreaking.

Iwannahurl

Tragic, and rather scary.

alexonhisown

Poor little soul. Condolences to the family.

Horrifying to think that such a thing could happen. I was in the building just before 3 and there was a number of young kids running around. Hard to believe that one of them may have been the victim

Doom

All lifts have to be maintained and inspected on a regular basis, let's hope the building was compliant, R.I.P. to that little kid, God bless his family.

RiverOfLove

Christ!

R.I.P.

Condolences to his mother and family.

LynnGrace

Poor little fellow, RIP.

Red Alert

The shaft doors would normally be interlocked to the hoist motor - there's more to this than meets the eye.

ChunkyLover54

Really disturbing news. What a terrible tragedy. My thoughts are with the child's poor mother and family.

aido76

RIP and Condolences to his family.
Also, spare a thought for the emergency service personnel that had to deal with this horrific incident. I'm sure they are fairly shook this evening and will be for a while.

JP Liz V1

RIP little boy

confuseddotcom

~R.I.P. Lil' Dude.~

Condolences to family and friends. Thoughts are with all Personnel involved, in presence and in response. Such a tragic thing to happen. Galway bringing a lot of sad news lately.



I have no idea what a Lift-Shaft is and am also going to Google it now! :pac:


Media Interview with Social Welfare Inspector / Manager / Representative / whoever on the Radio this evening was a little amusing. He just sounded so awkward and distant / off-handed! I know shock and trauma could have played a part, but it just definitely lacked the compassion and human-touchbase-personable-link that was badly needed in this terrible crisis because this really is something terrible. Certainly puts the World's debacles into perspective.


~~Heaven has a new angel. Fly high.~~

poolander

Such a sad thing to happen.

Das Kitty

Having a little guy of similar age, I'm fairly shook. RTE have some further details:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0113/497583-galway-lift/

Investigations centre on whether the boy may have crawled into a gap below the lift floor as it came to a stop.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Terrible news. What a nightmare for the family.

RIP little fella

SpaceTime

That's really awful news.
RIP and my sincere condolences to his family.

It sounds like something must have gone absolutely horribly wrong with the lift. Hopefully the HSA is investigating already.

fishy fishy

Das Kitty wrote: »

Having a little guy of similar age, I'm fairly shook. RTE have some further details:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0113/497583-galway-lift/

strange....is the lift door not in a locked position until the lift actually stops completely.

confuseddotcom

confuseddotcom wrote: »

~R.I.P. Lil' Dude.~

Condolences to family and friends. Thoughts are with all Personnel involved, in presence and in response. Such a tragic thing to happen. Galway bringing a lot of sad news lately.



I have no idea what a Lift-Shaft is and am also going to Google it now! :pac:


Media Interview with Social Welfare Inspector / Manager / Representative / whoever on the Radio this evening was a little amusing. He just sounded so awkward and distant / off-handed! I know shock and trauma could have played a part, but it just definitely lacked the compassion and human-touchbase-personable-link that was badly needed in this terrible crisis because this really is something terrible. Certainly puts the World's debacles into perspective.


~~Heaven has a new angel. Fly high.~~

To be fair, the person speaking may have been on hand when the accident occurred or shortly after and as such could be quite shaken up. People react differently to events such as this, many people can come across as cold and clinical as they simply haven't been able to process the information

Mrs OBumble

I see from RTE (http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0117/498559-galway-lift-accident/) that he's being buried here after a prayer service tomorrow.

Anyone know if it's a public service, and any details?

MelanieD

The Indo have an article online describing the last moments of this poor boy's life. Completely unnecessary and too upsetting to read.

Rip Solomen.

nuac

Sympathies to his family

Doom

MelanieD wrote: »

The Indo have an article online describing the last moments of this poor boy's life. Completely unnecessary and too upsetting to read.

Rip Solomen.

Its a bit too much alright, terrible for the family.

aw

Such a terrible story.

However, I fear we are going to hear a lot more about this.

It is noteworthy that the family have engaged Gerard O'Donnell to act for them in this case.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/mother-of-child-who-died-in-galway-office-lift-calls-for-investigation-to-be-made-public-1.1659745

Mrs OBumble

aw wrote: »

Such a terrible story.

However, I fear we are going to hear a lot more about this.

It is noteworthy that the family have engaged Gerard O'Donnell to act for them in this case.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/mother-of-child-who-died-in-galway-office-lift-calls-for-investigation-to-be-made-public-1.1659745

I'm sorry, but what exactly is there to FEAR about more publicity - except for the person(s) responsible?

The idea that the whole event should be swept under the carpet is Irish gombeenism at its worst.

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I'm sorry, but what exactly is there to FEAR about more publicity - except for the person(s) responsible?

+1

I think most people would like to find out what exactly happened as it's not very clear at all how it was possible for the poor kid to end up where he did.

GerardKeating

Andres Quiet Specialist wrote: »

+1

I think most people would like to find out what exactly happened as it's not very clear at all how it was possible for the poor kid to end up where he did.

I have toddlers who get excited with lifts,so would like to know how this happened, so that i can watch for this eventuality.

shampoosuicide

the way it's been described in that Indo article doesn't make any sense. why would they be panicking so much in the first place if he was in the lift? just meet him whichever floor it stops at. doesn't seem like an immediately dangerous situation.

GerardKeating

shampoosuicide wrote: »

the way it's been described in that Indo article doesn't make any sense. why would they be panicking so much in the first place if he was in the lift? just meet him whichever floor it stops at. doesn't seem like an immediately dangerous situation.

If I was on one of the upper floors and my 3 year old went down in the lift on his own, I would panic, once on the ground floor, it's a few moments to the street and traffic...

But the reports are conflicting at present, maybe some journalist license or filling in blanks with theory.

aw

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I'm sorry, but what exactly is there to FEAR about more publicity - except for the person(s) responsible?

The idea that the whole event should be swept under the carpet is Irish gombeenism at its worst.

In fairness, you misconstrued my comment.

The previous posters were talking about how awful the case was and not liking reading about it. We will be hearing a lot more about it, that was my point. I really don't think this can or will be 'swept under the carpet', as you put it, which at no point did anyone suggest.

GerardKeating wrote:

the reports are conflicting at present, maybe some journalist license or filling in blanks with theory.

It's a very strange case, media reports are conflicting.
Also, staff reports from the people working there are painting a different picture again.

I'm sure we will hear the findings in due course from the two investigations.

What I'm trying to figure out is how the child got from inside the elevator and into the shaft? I'm wondering if the floor collapsed or some such as there's quite a lot of this story the reads like those reporting it are making it up as they go along.

SpaceTime

There was quite clearly some kind of mechanical or safety system failure.
Lifts do not go wrong very often and are generally incredibly safe pieces of machinery (much safer than travelling by escalator or even taking the stairs).

It's basically impossible to cause a lift to injure you if it's operating normally. Everything's interlocked and there's no way of entering the shaft of the lift unless something has gone horribly wrong with the machinery.

We really need to wait for the HSA to conclude its investigation before we know what happened.

It sounds like an absolutely tragic and horrendous accent. RIP and my condolences to his family and also to anyone else who was involved.

Redhairedguy

Again, it's probably best to try not to speculate too much on how exactly this tragedy occured.

I too am interested to know what the hell happened, as until the official HSA report is released, I'm left scratching my head.

Iwannahurl

All I can say is that following this tragedy in Galway, and after hearing a report from someone who witnessed an incident whereby the doors opened onto an empty lift shaft several floors up, I am no longer taking lifts for granted, especially when children are present.

fishy fishy

shampoosuicide wrote: »

the way it's been described in that Indo article doesn't make any sense. why would they be panicking so much in the first place if he was in the lift? just meet him whichever floor it stops at. doesn't seem like an immediately dangerous situation.

when my three year old child moved behind me where he was hidden from me for a split second, I would panic. To have him in a lift, too small to know what to do, most parents would be beside themselves. Reality check. :rolleyes:

shampoosuicide

Iwannahurl wrote: »

All I can say is that following this tragedy in Galway, and after hearing a report from someone who witnessed an incident whereby the doors opened onto an empty lift shaft several floors up, I am no longer taking lifts for granted, especially when children are present.

the statistical chances of being injured by an elevator are ridiculously low. wouldn't be surprised if it was the first incidence of this kind in ireland. obviously it's a horrific tragedy but if you're going to suddenly be worried about elevators you should probably be worried about letting your children leave the house at all. actually they're probably in more danger in the house now that i mention it

Doom

From HSA....safety alert

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Topics/Safety_Alerts/Passenger_Safety_Alert/

dilallio

Doom wrote: »

From HSA....safety alert

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Topics/Safety_Alerts/Passenger_Safety_Alert/

Thanks Doom

Does anyone know what make of lift is in Hynes building?

Mrs OBumble

Doom wrote: »

From HSA....safety alert

http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Topics/Safety_Alerts/Passenger_Safety_Alert/

So they seriously expect us to believe that this could happen to any make/model of lift, and is not either a design flaw in the particular model or a maintenance fc*kup in the particular list.


'Cmon, we're Irish, not stoopid.