Mad driving in Nenagh

Ben D Bus

Now it looks to me like a clearly marked roundabout and the Range Rover seems to go around it the wrong way. But some people seem to think otherwise?

I don't think I'll ever go driving in Tipp

hefferboi

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I don't think I'll ever go driving in Tipp

Yeah, because everyone drives like that in Tipp.

Ben D Bus

hefferboi wrote: »

Yeah, because everyone drives like that in Tipp.

I wouldn't know. I never leave the Pale

Saucy McKetchup

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I wouldn't know. I never leave the Pale

Then you'll never have to worry about driving in Tipp.

wazky

Ben D Bus wrote: »

I wouldn't know. I never leave the Pale

We produce these vidjoes to scare the natives of the pale into staying within the pale.

dreamers75

posted other day it was locked. idiot is a garda.

read description in video

MaxFlower

I'm not hearing anything on that. Is there sound?

Ben D Bus

wazky wrote: »

We produce these vidjoes to scare the natives of the pale into staying within the pale.

You're doing a damned fine job!

the groutch

Welcome to Faceboards :rolleyes:

Fiery mutant

Drop the footage into the nearest Garda station, I'm sure they would have something to say.

Witcher

Read the description....

Fiery mutant

Just read the description. What a Cnut.

Ben D Bus

Just noticed the video was made by a YT user by the name of Tallon. This would be the rather prolific poster of this parish?

Karl Stein

I wouldn't have reversed.

Ever.

Artful_Badger

Ben D Bus wrote: »

Just noticed the video was made by a YT user by the name of Tallon. This would be the rather prolific poster of this parish?

It would.

If whats in the description is true I wouldnt have budged.

Muir

The number of comments on that video saying that the RR had right of way makes me not want to drive again.

mickydoomsux

A big gob****e in a spotless jeep that will never so much as go past a gatepost heading into a field and as a result is pointless for him to own.

Typical dickhead driver.

Muir

Muir wrote: »

The number of comments on that video saying that the RR had right of way makes me not want to drive again.

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first, but he was in the wrong by ignoring the location of the roundabout marking and technically speaking he went the wrong way round it.

If he had followed the rules correctly, he would have passed behind the camera car.

Ben D Bus

Deleted User wrote: »

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first, but he was in the wrong by ignoring the location of the roundabout marking and technically speaking he went the wrong way round it.

How can you possibly have the right of way when you're travelling in the WRONG DIRECTION around a roundabout???

wazky

Ben D Bus wrote: »

How can you possibly have the right of way when you're travelling in the WRONG DIRECTION around a roundabout???

When nobody's looking.

Ben D Bus

wazky wrote: »

When nobody's looking.

20,000 people have looked

Artful_Badger

Deleted User wrote: »

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first, but he was in the wrong by ignoring the location of the roundabout marking and technically speaking he went the wrong way round it.

Isnt that like saying the guy going the wrong way down a one way street has right of way because he was on it first ? If he's going the wrong way around the roundabout then he doesnt have the right of way in the direction he's going no more than he'd have the right away if he stopped and reversed around it.

mickydoomsux

Deleted User wrote: »

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first, but he was in the wrong by ignoring the location of the roundabout marking and technically speaking he went the wrong way round it.

He was only on it first because he cut across it sharply on the wrong side of the road rather than going around it properly but i'm sure he was in a hurry as he had an emergency on the farm he doesn't own that he doesn't need his big obnoxious jeep for.

RacoonQueen

Ben D Bus wrote: »

How can you possibly have the right of way when you're travelling in the WRONG DIRECTION around a roundabout???

He did get to the roundabout about half a second before the camera car...however, clearly didn't slow down on the approach to the roundabout and cut through it rather than going around it. If he'd gone around it both cars would have got round without impeding each other.

Those mini roundabouts are a hindrance anyway. Most people have no idea how to use big roundabouts these things just make their tiny little brains explode.

Smidge

With that kind of crazy driving there, there's bound to be lot's of accidents.
I guess thats why they have Ireland's only Ambulance factory there.

Svlad Cjelli

Svlad Cjelli wrote: »

Isnt that like saying the guy going the wrong way down a one way street has right of way because he was on it first ? If he's going the wrong way around the roundabout then he doesnt have the right of way in the direction he's going.

He had the right of way to join the roundabout as no one was coming from his right hand side, but he had no right to cut across the way that he did.

Karl Stein

Ben D Bus wrote: »

How can you possibly have the right of way when you're travelling in the WRONG DIRECTION around a roundabout???

The knob-head is actually going around the roundabout counter-clockwise.

RacoonQueen

RacoonQueen wrote: »

He did get to the roundabout about half a second before the camera car...however, cleary didn't slow down on the approach to the roundabout and cut through it rather than going around it. If he'd gone around it both cars would have got round without impeding each other.

Those mini roundabouts are a hindrance anyway. Most people have no idea how to use big roundabouts these things just make their tiny little brains explode.

Well, they're certainly better than the alternatives.
T junction with traffic queuing.
Traffic lights with traffic waiting
or even worse, US style stop signs with traffic playing chicken

Frank Black

Deleted User wrote: »

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first,

Nope, "technically speaking", he was driving like an arsehole and seemed completely unaware of how roundabouts actually work.
Scary that I have to share the road with people like you who think he was in the right

BorneTobyWilde

Deleted User wrote: »

He had the right of way to join the roundabout as no one was coming from his right hand side, but he had no right to cut across the way that he did.

Every car in video that passes before him does the exact same move. I dunno rule for these painted on roundabouts, but dam that is a tight corner to expect someone to drive around it without mounting it when turning right like range rover was. Had he managed to drive around it correctly which looks impossible, he would have had right of way.

Frank Black

Frank Black wrote: »

Nope, "technically speaking", he was driving like an arsehole and seemed completely unaware of how roundabouts actually work.
Scary that I have to share the road with people like you who think he was in the right

Read the rest of the comments!

RacoonQueen

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Every car in video that passes before him does the exact same move. I dunno rule for these painted on roundabouts, but dam that is a tight corner to expect someone to drive around it without mounting it when turning right like range rover was. Had he managed to drive around it correctly which looks impossible, he would have had right of way.

No they don't cut it anywhere near the way that he did. If the roundabout hadn't been there and he was simply turning right while the camera car was going straight he probably would have done the same thing.

Muir

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Every car in video that passes before him does the exact same move. I dunno rule for these painted on roundabouts, but dam that is a tight corner to expect someone to drive around it without mounting it when turning right like range rover was. Had he managed to drive around it correctly which looks impossible, he would have had right of way.

The rules are the same as for any roundabout. He didn't mount it, he took a roundabout as if it was a right hand turn. Doesn't look that impossible to me to do it correctly, but he didn't even try.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Every car in video that passes before him does the exact same move. I dunno rule for these painted on roundabouts, but dam that is a tight corner to expect someone to drive around it without mounting it when turning right like range rover was. Had he managed to drive around it correctly which looks impossible, he would have had right of way.

He just chanced it, if he had done it correctly and slowed right down then he would have turned without going over the other side of the painted circle, btw it's ok to drive over the paint but you must respect the rules of the roundabout which that land rover driver didn't

BorneTobyWilde

RacoonQueen wrote: »

No they don't cut it anywhere near the way that he did. If the roundabout hadn't been there and he was simply turning right while the camera car was going straight he probably would have done the same thing.

Silver car and red car before range rover. Silver car hard to judge,but cuts it to me, red car, hmm stop it at 7 secs , speaks for itself . It's plain to see he cut it as badly . I would have been tempted to make contact with range rover.... it's one of those things. To do what he did with a car at roundabout was silly, without car been there hmm probably normal but still wrong.

Artful_Badger

Deleted User wrote: »

He had the right of way to join the roundabout as no one was coming from his right hand side, but he had no right to cut across the way that he did.

In relation to the other car he didnt have the right of way though which is what we're talking about here isnt it ? They both had the right of way to join the roundabout because there was no cars coming from either of their rights when they joined it. But RR man decided to take a short cut and went head on into traffic coming from his right.

Artful_Badger

I think the worse thing about it though was that he was a reserve Garda and threatened to take the other driver to the Garda station. Sounds like abuse of whatever limited power he had to me.

Frank Black

Deleted User wrote: »

Read the rest of the comments!

Watch the video!

cerastes

Deleted User wrote: »

Technically speaking, he did, he was on the roundabout first, but he was in the wrong by ignoring the location of the roundabout marking and technically speaking he went the wrong way round it.

If he had followed the rules correctly, he would have passed behind the camera car.

which is it?

Deleted User wrote: »

He just chanced it, if he had done it correctly and slowed right down then he would have turned without going over the other side of the painted circle, btw it's ok to drive over the paint but you must respect the rules of the roundabout which that land rover driver didn't

Bloody hell, seems to be contradictions all over the place here,
try do that in front of a Garda car so

guy went wrong way around roundabout, cutting completely across it, with a dash cam, no way I'd have backed up or down, guy is an absolute tool.
I'd follow this up if possible, is it though? complaint via traffic corps?
Like to know what was said.

ubs69

What did he say to get you to reverse ?

fullstop

Svlad Cjelli wrote: »

I think the worse thing about it though was that he was a reserve Garda and threatened to take the other driver to the Garda station. Sounds like abuse of whatever limited power he had to me.

Knowing I had it all on camera, I'd have gone with the prick voluntarily.

bigroad

That fool needs a good slap in the jaw.He is totally in the wrong and then his bullyboy tactics getting out of the jeep prancing around rolling up the sleves.
The state of him it looks like he has a real chip on the shoulder.
He is driving a newish jeep so i wouldnt think he is in the guards waiting to get a full time job.
Anyway he is too old to join fulltime.
I can see only one reason he joined the reserves and thats is some kind of power trip which is quiet evident in this video.

zapata

An Garda Siochana is no place for a Road Raging Range Rover Reserve like that.
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Although from the other users video he is no road angel either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZnJReosA0
The user says it is a closed road but it's unusual to have it so well signposted with council signs and lots of houses about. :rolleyes:

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TireeTerror

Will anyone thinking of saying the Land Rover driver was not at fault please just stop posting. The pain is too much to cope with and small kittens and puppies are suffocating with each word!

Jimoslimos

Mistakes from both drivers, although obviously the Range Rover was more at fault for cutting the roundabout. It's a tight turn but he still should make an effort to treat it as a roundabout.

The other driver should have paused briefly instead of second-guessing the Range Rover's movement around the roundabout.

As for the Garda Reserve nonsense I would have laughed, they have as much power as a lollipop lady and by some accounts aren't highly regarded by some standard Gardaí.

Not quite the same in the UK with PCSOs but similar, this springs to mind
NSFW - Strong language

johndaman66

Carlos Roca wrote: »

I wouldn't have reversed.

Ever.

Same here, not in a million years. In fact if he was a reserve Garda as has being mentioned and he had threatened to take the other driver to the copshop as has being mentioned I'd insist he did if I had that footage. He should (might) be the one ending up in hot water.... Then again knowing the organisation that is An Garda Siochana I wouldn't bank on it

It leads me to my next question...Was he really a reserve Garda? Did he produce a badge to prove such was the case? Because to me his behaviour and that bloody white Range Rover would suggest he's more likely to be a knacker....there I may as well say it as think it. The type of knacker who comes back home to Rathkeale for Christmas. Anybody from the Rathkeale area will know exactly what I'm talking about. A refined knacker compared to the rest of them but nonetheless a knacker at the end of the day

johndaman66

RacoonQueen wrote: »

He did get to the roundabout about half a second before the camera car...however, clearly didn't slow down on the approach to the roundabout and cut through it rather than going around it. If he'd gone around it both cars would have got round without impeding each other.

Those mini roundabouts are a hindrance anyway. Most people have no idea how to use big roundabouts these things just make their tiny little brains explode.

I agree with you that them mini roundabouts are not always the best idea but then again thats only because so many misuse them. They are a roundabout and should be used in the same manner as any other roundabout but it seems people seem to choose to ignore this or if I had to pinpoint it I'd suggest they are too lazy to adhere to the rules more than anything and thats where problems arise. Having said all that an artic truck or rigid is not always going to be able to use a mini roundabout correctly irrespective of the drivers best effort but there are no excuses for car/ 4x4 drivers.

I don't want to be ranting on too much but peoples use of roundabouts in this country be they mini roundabouts or full sized ones is absolutely appalling. Using indicators is pick and mix and worse still they are so often used incorrectly. Lane discipline on them is quite often a laugh as far as I can see.

RainyDay

Gotta love the YouTube comments "I heard the first you knew he was a guard was when he got out of the car and said I'm from Nenagh Nenagh Nenagh Nenagh Nenagh. "

MJ23

What a prick.

TireeTerror

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Mistakes from both drivers, although obviously the Range Rover was more at fault for cutting the roundabout. It's a tight turn but he still should make an effort to treat it as a roundabout.

The other driver should have paused briefly instead of second-guessing the Range Rover's movement around the roundabout.

I honestly do not understand how you managed to pass your driving test if you genuinely believe what you posted. You feel the RR driver should have made an effort to treat it as a roundabout?? It IS a roundabout and cannot be treated in any other way.

The other driver had no need to pause briefly, he is fully within his rights to expect other road users to comply with the rules of the road. Had the moron in the RR complied with the rules then the OP pulling straight onto the roundabout would not have caused any issues at all.

Really this is not even up for discussion, its not my opinion or interpretation of the rules of the road, they are the rules of the road.

From the RSA

treat the roundabout as a junction, yield to traffic
coming from the right, but keep moving if the
way is clear.

BrianD3

Some of the youtube comments state that he is a Taekwondo instructor. I had a quick google and am 99% sure I've found his facebook and linkedin profiles. Pr*ck. he really should know better than to be getting out his car in a road rage incident. Would have been great if he had hit Tallon or even aggressively threatened him, as a martial arts "master" he could then be taken to the cleaners.

I've been thinking about getting a dashcam for a while, after seeing this my mind is pretty much made up.