Less pay on payslip 9 Jan 14?

JDD10 · 09-01-2014 5:11pm #1

Hi,

I checked my bank account just now, to my horror, my pay has gone down by 55euro?
I am a fixed term teacher, so my hours are the same every week, why on earth has my pay gone down? I am on the new payscale, so my pay isn't great as it is, so to see that I am down E55 euro is so disheartening.

I will ring the department tomorrow, but I want to know, has this happened anyone else?

Moody_mona · 09-01-2014 5:12pm

My pay was up by a couple of euro, there's a thread on education posts, last week was primary pay day and there were huge discrepancies in pay.

jimbo28 · 09-01-2014 5:21pm

Mine too.After ringing the dept,I was told that the system did not recognize the new tax credit certs for some teachers and that the pay was taxed as emergency tax.
Also the pension % is now different for rpt's.She indicated that as far as she knew, this was the reason.

JDD10 · 09-01-2014 5:23pm

So jimbo 82, is that going to be a permanent change to your pay so?

jimbo28 · 09-01-2014 6:27pm

As I understand it the pension % will be different from now on yes.As was explained by dept, its now 3% as opposed to 1.5%. Jaysus its a joke at this stage, don't mind paying the pension but Im not really sure how long more I will stay at the teaching,so I would prefer to get the few extra quid now.

vamos! · 09-01-2014 6:56pm

Were we ever informed of pension input changes?Is it essentially a 1.5% pay cut? I try to keep up with all of the circulars and changes but might have forgotton or missed one.

jimbo28 · 09-01-2014 7:10pm

As she explained it, it only applies to rpt teachers on less than 22.Im not so sure that she was 100% on the facts to be honest.She said that she would try and get someone else in the dept to ring me back in the morning with full confirmation, so ill wait until then to see what the full story is.I cannot say anything more other than what i was told.I'm hoping she was wrong though:(.

2011abc · 09-01-2014 7:10pm

Was it a ' Budget 'adjustment ?Sure hey the austerity is really gonna grind on for teachers anyway for at least the next 4-6 years .The water charges havent even kicked in yet and they will only go up along with all the (many many)old reliables...Inevitably when the private sector are booming again we'll be thrown a few crumbs just before the next crash -rinse and repeat ...

vamos! · 09-01-2014 7:17pm

jimbo28 wrote: »

As she explained it, it only applies to rpt teachers on less than 22.Im not so sure that she was 100% on the facts to be honest.She said that she would try and get someone else in the dept to ring me back in the morning with full confirmation, so ill wait until then to see what the full story is.I cannot say anything more other than what i was told.I'm hoping she was wrong though:(.

Seems strange that RPT on less than 22 hours get hit. My pay went up by about 43 euro. Won't see the payslip until the weekend though.

Peter Flynt · 09-01-2014 7:39pm

As a former ASTI member [announced by email I was leaving on 20 December]:

- No increment increase on my pay slip meaning I'm underpaid by about 80 euro gross.

- A slight reduction of 4.81 to pay in the pension levy [pension related deduction]. This is presumably due to the rate cut from 5% to 2.5% in Haddington Road. This means an increase in PAYE and a total net earning of 2.84 per fortnight as a result of the reduction in the pension levy. . . Hawaii here I come. :rolleyes:

So it seems they applied Haddington Road regarding the pension related deduction but NOT regarding the increment increase.

Still paying the ASTI.

2011abc · 09-01-2014 7:43pm

Will be interesting to see how quickly they refund our ASTI payments since leaving.

Peter Flynt · 09-01-2014 7:45pm

2011abc wrote: »

Will be interesting to see how quickly they refund our ASTI payments since leaving.

Will the ASTI refund this difference?

I intend billing them . . .They've no entitlement to that money.

jimbo28 · 09-01-2014 8:17pm

When I left a few years ago the did refund me by way of a check,not too sure how they go about it nowadays.However I would like to see this thread stay on track i.e:less pay today and reasons for it.

seavill · 09-01-2014 8:40pm

I and a few others in school got an extra 2 euro something No idea why

happywithlife · 09-01-2014 9:02pm

Mine was down too. &#55357;&#56877;&#55357;&#56877;

unknowngirl!! · 09-01-2014 9:04pm

I'm down €48.21.. It says PREVIOUS YEAR PRD on my payslip?..

Boober Fraggle · 09-01-2014 9:14pm

I'm up because my property tax didn't come out. I thought that rolled forward into the new year?

rainbowtrout · 10-01-2014 12:27am

unknowngirl!! wrote: »

I'm down €48.21.. It says PREVIOUS YEAR PRD on my payslip?..

PRD would be Pension Related Deduction I would assume.

I was up about €3

teacherhead · 10-01-2014 7:18am

seavill wrote: »

I and a few others in school got an extra 2 euro something No idea why

The pension levy had a minor change I think, can't remember the details.

Millem · 10-01-2014 8:49am

One of my friend's told me they were down and had paid more in PRD they are permanent not rpt. I rang dept over my own wages and they said something about new tax credits certificates were issued and tax credits reduced by around €1000. This might just be the case for me as I am on maternity leave, but my wages are all over the place. They really don't have a clue and I have rang them 5 times!

Icsics · 10-01-2014 2:19pm

No prop tax taken here either, do we have to submit every year on this?

Evaleigh · 23-01-2014 9:15am

My pay is still down today (about 65 euro). I was hoping it was just a mistake last time but now I'm thinking it mightn't be.

seavill · 23-01-2014 9:51am

Evaleigh wrote: »

My pay is still down today (about 65 euro). I was hoping it was just a mistake last time but now I'm thinking it mightn't be.

Mine is up again this month. Was less than 2 euro last month per payment. This pay cheque was up a further €37. No idea why won't see the pay slip till later

Moody_mona · 23-01-2014 10:30am

Pay is down €80 this week, I have a tight budget and I'm pretty worried if this is going to be a usual thing. On my third temporary contract with the same school, no reason for a different amount, not happy.

sitstill · 23-01-2014 10:45am

Mine was up €4 the last time and is down €20 today. I'm on 22 hours so it shouldn't really be changing.

artyeefs · 23-01-2014 10:53am

Mine was also up by 43 euro, baffled, wont see payslip til later

Peter Flynt · 23-01-2014 11:34am

With part of the pension levy reduced from 5% to 2.5% . . . This would mean that teachers would be liable to pay a greater proportion of their income on PAYE/USC/PRSI - which is effectively a 52% rate over 32,800 euros.

Evaleigh · 23-01-2014 4:02pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

With part of the pension levy reduced from 5% to 2.5% . . . This would mean that teachers would be liable to pay a greater proportion of their income on PAYE/USC/PRSI - which is effectively a 52% rate over 32,800 euros.

Oh dear. That sounds final! I was still hoping it was a mistake. i'm jobshare so it makes sense

jimbo28 · 23-01-2014 4:46pm

How about no payslip at all!!!! first time this has ever happened to me.Always got one on time.

ytareh · 23-01-2014 5:39pm

ASTI still screwing me after departure(over a month later) -at equivalent rate of over 25 euro a month .I will be forcefully looking for what Im owed to be repaid .Why am I not surprised?

solerina · 23-01-2014 6:01pm

jimbo28 wrote: »

How about no payslip at all!!!! first time this has ever happened to me.Always got one on time.

Same here, am up 2 euro again this time but no pay slip and it always arrives on time too !!

Evaleigh · 23-01-2014 6:04pm

ytareh wrote: »

ASTI still screwing me fter departure(over a month later) -at equivalent rate of over 25 euro a month .I will be forcefully looking for what Im owed to be repaid .Why am I not surprised?

I think I'll leave them as well - just to save the money at this stage!

Moody_mona · 23-01-2014 6:06pm

Checked my online revenue, and my flat rate expenses wasn't activated for 2014. It might have had some effect on my pay.

Peter Flynt · 24-01-2014 5:43pm

ytareh wrote: »

ASTI still screwing me after departure(over a month later) -at equivalent rate of over 25 euro a month .I will be forcefully looking for what Im owed to be repaid .Why am I not surprised?

Same here . . .Still paying them after telling them on 19 December that I was out.

Disgraceful

sitstill · 25-01-2014 11:20am

Moody_mona wrote: »

Checked my online revenue, and my flat rate expenses wasn't activated for 2014. It might have had some effect on my pay.

I contacted Revenue yesterday and it seems this was the problem with my pay this week.

Moody_mona · 25-01-2014 11:42am

sitstill wrote: »

I contacted Revenue yesterday and it seems this was the problem with my pay this week.

I did it online so hopefully it will be rectified some time next week. Have no idea why this would be taken off me though, it doesn't make sense to me!

whiteandlight · 30-01-2014 1:57pm

I'm up 15.06 this month (ETC). Can't see why but I'll compare more closely to my last payslip when I get home

Moody_mona · 06-02-2014 8:52am

Pay up €400 - increment repayment?

Evaleigh · 06-02-2014 8:56am

Mine is up today as well. It was down for the last two weeks

whiteandlight · 06-02-2014 10:17am

My 15e increase seems to have been due to the pension levy. No sign of increments yet. I suppose its savings

seavill · 06-02-2014 10:35am

I'm up 300 also

sitstill · 06-02-2014 10:42am

Also up €400

solerina · 06-02-2014 12:18pm

Im up 300 also :-)

chemanalysis · 06-02-2014 5:42pm

My back pay was only €113 ? Other teachers in my school got €900 any ideas ?

Moody_mona · 06-02-2014 6:22pm

When was your increment due?

rainbowtrout · 06-02-2014 6:45pm

chemanalysis wrote: »

My back pay was only €113 ? Other teachers in my school got €900 any ideas ?

You were due increments at different times and you are on different points on the pay scale?

Pang · 06-02-2014 7:00pm

Got 400 and I notice the taxman got 600.

Evaleigh · 20-02-2014 10:15am

How did everyone do today? Mine is still down since January but up a little on account of increment.

Peter Flynt · 20-02-2014 11:10am

For anyone who wishes to calculate their back pay:

1 - Find out when you are due your last increment. Ring the DES payroll section to confirm. [For most teachers this date is 01 September 2013]

2 - Payment for today is up to 17 February and the period from 04-13 February will include the increment increase if back pay is mentioned.

3 - Back Pay is then due from the date your increment was due to 03 February 2014 if you are receiving back pay today. Calculate the number of days in between. If this increment due date was 01 September then this represents a total of 155 days.

4 - Calculate the increment increase due to you.

5 - Divide the figure in 4 by 365.26 [the factor used in the DES].

6 - Multiply by the number of days calculated in 3.

This is the GROSS BACK PAY. . . . Now leave the rest for PADDY'S TAXMAN to decimate YOUR MONEY DUE for various bank bailout taxes like USC, PRSI, etc. .

trihead · 20-02-2014 9:35pm

This could be an issue for some of you.... Our vec/etb merged with another one... Like most I think. Since January the tax credit for 'expenses' for teachers wasn't included as technically we have a new employer/payrol from the start of the year. You have to ring the tax office to get this credit activated again.Only a small amount but could be why some of the posters are down in wages. We were never told this but a colleague spotted it.

Thanks

Trihead

Less pay on payslip 9 Jan 14?

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