Local Galway Businesses and Multinationals, a rational discussion

Timmyctc

MOD EDIT: I've moved these posts from the businesses opening/closing thread, I really shouldn't have had to do that, in future could y'all just not make extra work for mods, for realsies - it's a pain.

Let's see how this thread pans out, be nice to each other and if that's just not possible then don't post.

Paddyfield wrote: »

Tesco Express are opening up there.

They won't be getting a penny from me.

howyanow

Paddyfield wrote: »

Tesco Express are opening up there.

They won't be getting a penny from me.

Hey Paddyfield,
Im just curious as to why you feel that way towards tesco?I heard before that this country is very profitable for them.Is this one of your reasons or is it simply they are taking over the high street and closing down local business?

WallyGUFC

howyanow wrote: »

Hey Paddyfield,
Im just curious as to why you feel that way towards tesco?I heard before that this country is very profitable for them.Is this one of your reasons or is it simply they are taking over the high street and closing down local business?

I'm curious too. I'd just go wherever is cheapest but still maintains a certain level of quality. Much rather Tesco than Dunnes anyway!

gordongekko

Tesco describe Ireland as treasure island. They are a complete rip off. They also are impossible to deal with as a supplier I can't go into details as I don't want to get anyone into trouble but they have some sharp practices.

Mrs OBumble

Tesco describe(d?) Ireland as Treasure Island because a remarkable number of people are willing to pay crazy prices. But they also have own-brand items for non-crazy prices (often looking like they're the same thing, same assembly line, with a different label) for those who can read pricetags and use their brains. A win both ways.

If they're that impossible to deal with, then they would not have any goods on their shelves.

And sharp practises .... I'm glad they're astute - just like many Irish business people are!

antoobrien

gordongekko wrote: »

They are a complete rip off.

It's not that they are a rip off, it's that they stop selling mid range price items of products, leaving only the cheapest and the idiotically expensive.

I often wonder just what the people that are claiming to save 70 a week buying in Lidl & Aldi were buying in the other stores.

gordongekko

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If they're that impossible to deal with, then they would not have any goods on their shelves.

And sharp practises .... I'm glad they're astute - just like many Irish business people are!

there have been previously reported cases of fresh food being due for delivery only for them to ring up and tell the supplier they are not paying the agreed price. Or cases like what debenhams did before Christmas and tell suppliers they are applying and discount to all invoices due in January.

As these companies are so large suppliers have no choice but to put with it or lose the business.

Dunnes aldi and lidl have much better reputations.

Paddyfield

howyanow wrote: »

Hey Paddyfield,
Im just curious as to why you feel that way towards tesco?I heard before that this country is very profitable for them.Is this one of your reasons or is it simply they are taking over the high street and closing down local business?

Everyone else pretty much summed it up for me. Whilst I like to support local businesses as much as possible, I still go to both Aldi and Dunnes. You might think that is hypocritical of me, but I also go to Colleran's Butchers, Griffin's Bakery etc etc.

Tesco, as a brand, represents a monster. In my opinion, Aldi does more for Irish business than Tesco, even though both are international companies who remove money from our economy.

snubbleste

Paddyfield wrote: »

Tesco, as a brand, represents a monster. In my opinion, Aldi does more for Irish business than Tesco, even though both are international companies who remove money from our economy.

I think you need to research a bit more
Tesco alone are responsible for 8% of all Irish food exports
Tesco buys Irish food and drink worth €2bn a year, with €700m of this exported to its international stores. The retailer’s international purchases account for around 8% of total food and drink exports from Ireland. http://www.businessandleadership.com/exporting/item/44093-corks-keohanes-seafoods-w
Tesco employ more people including those less capable and have introduced more competition in the non-grocery sector with telephony, insurance, credit cards etc.

hedgehog2

snubbleste wrote: »

I think you need to research a bit more
Tesco alone are responsible for 8% of all Irish food exports
Tesco buys Irish food and drink worth €2bn a year, with €700m of this exported to its international stores. The retailer’s international purchases account for around 8% of total food and drink exports from Ireland. http://www.businessandleadership.com/exporting/item/44093-corks-keohanes-seafoods-w
Tesco employ more people including those less capable and have introduced more competition in the non-grocery sector with telephony, insurance, credit cards etc.

I won't shop in Tesco because I just think its a rip off compared to lidl or aldi.
Plus the fact that tesco epitomizes the corporate greed mentality,examples using jobsbridge to hire shelf stackers,screwing suppliers,I travel a good bit and have seen their land practices in Asia(bullying small land owners to sell,greasing officials)
Its common knowledge in those parts.
For me the represent greed and its my choice never to shop in a tesco others can do as they please.

snubbleste

Rampant capitalistism!

hedgehog2

snubbleste wrote: »

Rampant capitalistism!

Sure if they fail they can always get a bailout from the same people they are out to screw,is'nt that how capitalism works.

snubbleste

hedgehog2 wrote: »

Sure if they fail they can always get a bailout from the same people they are out to screw,is'nt that how capitalism works.

Why, yes, yes it is.

gordongekko

snubbleste wrote: »

I think you need to research a bit more
Tesco alone are responsible for 8% of all Irish food exports
Tesco buys Irish food and drink worth €2bn a year, with €700m of this exported to its international stores. The retailer’s international purchases account for around 8% of total food and drink exports from Ireland. http://www.businessandleadership.com/exporting/item/44093-corks-keohanes-seafoods-w
Tesco employ more people including those less capable and have introduced more competition in the non-grocery sector with telephony, insurance, credit cards etc.

how much of their "Irish "purchases are from the north?

ben.schlomo

Paddyfield wrote: »

Everyone else pretty much summed it up for me. Whilst I like to support local businesses as much as possible, I still go to both Aldi and Dunnes. You might think that is hypocritical of me, but I also go to Colleran's Butchers, Griffin's Bakery etc etc.

Tesco, as a brand, represents a monster. In my opinion, Aldi does more for Irish business than Tesco, even though both are international companies who remove money from our economy.

I find it interesting that you dont seem to feel ripped off in Griffins, ridiculously overpriced for what it sells.

antoobrien

snubbleste wrote: »

Tesco alone are responsible for 8% of all Irish food exports

Yeah but how much of that is for repackaging abroad? Something like half of the cheese "packaged" in England is actually manufactured in Ireland.

Mrs OBumble

antoobrien wrote: »

Yeah but how much of that is for repackaging abroad? Something like half of the cheese "packaged" in England is actually manufactured in Ireland.

Any why is that a problem?

serfboard

Sorry, folks, can ye all take this discussion re multinationals to another thread?

antoobrien

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Any why is that a problem?

It's not a problem, but it does bring into question the stocking & purchasing practices of Tesco when dealing with finished Irish products.

flynnlives

lads, ye should take this outside! ......outside Tescos on the headford road, say about 3pm on saturday?