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liquoriceall

I might just be over reacting but this morning I woke up and got my dog up to go to the loo around 7 as I went down the stairs I noticed a big wet patch on the stairs and another big puddle on the hall floor
I cleaned them up and tried smelling them but my nose is blocked I think they smelt slightly uriney but it was very clear looking
Hes a 6.5 year old male basset neutered
He has access to water all the time and usually if he wants to go out during the night he comes in to my room and wakes me
Im just so confused its not like him at all

Karlitto

It is possible he had an accident, if it keeps happening, go to the vet, there is an oral solution which can be administered for this, but don't jump the boat.

The fact it was at the bottom of the stairs and in the hall suggests he may have been heading to the door to go out and pee (unless he only has access to that area at night)

liquoriceall

Karlitto wrote: »

It is possible he had an accident, if it keeps happening, go to the vet, there is an oral solution which can be administered for this, but don't jump the boat.

The fact it was at the bottom of the stairs and in the hall suggests he may have been heading to the door to go out and pee (unless he only has access to that area at night)

He has access to the kitchen as well as that area and he can push in the door to my room to wake me he sleeps in the room next door to mine

Karlitto

liquoriceall wrote: »

He has access to the kitchen as well as that area and he can push in the door to my room to wake me he sleeps in the room next door to mine

Ah cool, my guess would be that he just had a brain fart (just like we do all the time) and forgot, or was bursting. But either way, keep an eye over the next couple of days and see, mean while I will try find the name of the oral solution for ya.

Millem

Karlitto wrote: »

Ah cool, my guess would be that he just had a brain fart (just like we do all the time) and forgot, or was bursting. But either way, keep an eye over the next couple of days and see, mean while I will try find the name of the oral solution for ya.

OP it could be loads of things e.g. An accident, a uti etc. My old dog is incontinent and takes an oral solution called "propalin" it is a syrup and miracle stuff. Works within 20 mins but if she misses a day or two she will leak again my vet told me incontinence is basically "leaking" i.e. Dog gets up from sitting down and there will be a wet patch. They don't realise it is happening. It's not that the dog will go for a pee in front of you on the floor. We have found recently massive explosions of pee (way way more than normal accident) vet suspects her sphincter is going. But we are just keeping an eye on it for now!

Karlitto

Millem wrote: »

OP it could be loads of things e.g. An accident, a uti etc. My old dog is incontinent and takes an oral solution called "propalin" it is a syrup and miracle stuff. Works within 20 mins but if she misses a day or two she will leak again my vet told me incontinence is basically "leaking" i.e. Dog gets up from sitting down and there will be a wet patch. They don't realise it is happening. It's not that the dog will go for a pee in front of you on the floor. We have found recently massive explosions of pee (way way more than normal accident) vet suspects her sphincter is going. But we are just keeping an eye on it for now!

Propalin! Thank you, that's what it is called, it was used to treat my friends dog who (as Millem pointed out) was leaking, in her sleep.

Millem

Karlitto wrote: »

Propalin! Thank you, that's what it is called, it was used to treat my friends dog who (as Millem pointed out) was leaking, in her sleep.

It is miracle stuff our dog would literally have to wear nappies without it! Supposedly there can be some side effects from it but thankfully she hadn't had any

lolosaur

I once pee'd in the corner of my room whilst half asleep on a tuesday night thinking it was a urinal.

I hope this helps.

Lolosaur xxx

Karlitto

lolosaur wrote: »

I once pee'd in the corner of my room whilst half asleep on a tuesday night thinking it was a urinal.

I hope this helps.

Lolosaur xxx

Been there my friend, been there

aonb

Arent there two distinct aspects to 'accidents' i.e. a dog who is incontinent because of physical issues and the dog who is incontinent because of age/senility issues.
My elderly dog will leave puddles around the house when we're out for a few hours - maybe two or three - large puddles! - (Thankfully wooden or tiled floors) - though sometimes he will cock his leg when we are in the room, and he has just woken up
It is manageable for now but the vet did say that the medication for incontinence is very effective. Im holding off for now, and will wait to see if it becomes a bigger issue as time goes on (on the grounds that the less meds/side-effects the better at his age) OP, keep an eye on your basset and see how it goes - hopefully he was just caught short last night - has he been drinking an awful lot - thats also something that you should watch for

Millem

aonb wrote: »

Arent there two distinct aspects to 'accidents' i.e. a dog who is incontinent because of physical issues and the dog who is incontinent because of age/senility issues.
My elderly dog will leave puddles around the house when we're out for a few hours - maybe two or three - large puddles! - (Thankfully wooden or tiled floors) - though sometimes he will cock his leg when we are in the room, and he has just woken up
It is manageable for now but the vet did say that the medication for incontinence is very effective. Im holding off for now, and will wait to see if it becomes a bigger issue as time goes on (on the grounds that the less meds/side-effects the better at his age) OP, keep an eye on your basset and see how it goes - hopefully he was just caught short last night - has he been drinking an awful lot - thats also something that you should watch for

I am not an expert or a vet, all I can tell you is my dog's incontinence are not like 'accidents!'. It is more like 'drips'. If I ever ran out of propalin I would literally have to sit her on a "pee" pad or put a nappy on her. Now she is old and has been know to do a "pee" in front of you if you aren't watching her and vet said this could be down to age (she is getting a bit contrary in her old age) not incontinence. (This hasn't happened since the summer). The "explosions" are down to sphincter, huge puddles like need about 5 towels to soak up that I first asked the OH why he spilt a "bucket of water" in the hall!

Rosier

aonb wrote: »

Arent there two distinct aspects to 'accidents' i.e. a dog who is incontinent because of physical issues and the dog who is incontinent because of age/senility issues.
My elderly dog will leave puddles around the house when we're out for a few hours - maybe two or three - large puddles! - (Thankfully wooden or tiled floors) - though sometimes he will cock his leg when we are in the room, and he has just woken up
It is manageable for now but the vet did say that the medication for incontinence is very effective. Im holding off for now, and will wait to see if it becomes a bigger issue as time goes on (on the grounds that the less meds/side-effects the better at his age) OP, keep an eye on your basset and see how it goes - hopefully he was just caught short last night - has he been drinking an awful lot - thats also something that you should watch for

thanks for this; it is my experience and decision re an older dog also. the floor is lino so not real problems cleaning up on the odd occasion. oddest thing was that once or twice when eating she would have her head down munching and then squat to pee at the same time... but them food always comes before all else with this old lady.. a lot is diligence on my part of course; making sure we all go out often

Rosier

Millem wrote: »

I am not an expert or a vet, all I can tell you is my dog's incontinence are not like 'accidents!'. It is more like 'drips'. If I ever ran out of propalin I would literally have to sit her on a "pee" pad or put a nappy on her. Now she is old and has been know to do a "pee" in front of you if you aren't watching her and vet said this could be down to age (she is getting a bit contrary in her old age) not incontinence. (This hasn't happened since the summer). The "explosions" are down to sphincter, huge puddles like need about 5 towels to soak up that I first asked the OH why he spilt a "bucket of water" in the hall!

had a house once where water would bubble up though the floor in heavy rain. the first time I accused the dogs, then realised the fluid was not orange...

liquoriceall

Thank you all for your help I will keep a close eye on him and hopefully it was a once off....he did have bacon yesterday so drank a lot of water after that!

Millem

Rosier wrote: »

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had a house once where water would bubble up though the floor in heavy rain. the first time I accused the dogs, then realised the fluid was not orange...

Lol

aonb

Millem wrote: »

I am not an expert or a vet, all I can tell you is my dog's incontinence are not like 'accidents!'. It is more like 'drips'. If I ever ran out of propalin I would literally have to sit her on a "pee" pad or put a nappy on her. Now she is old and has been know to do a "pee" in front of you if you aren't watching her and vet said this could be down to age (she is getting a bit contrary in her old age) not incontinence. (This hasn't happened since the summer). The "explosions" are down to sphincter, huge puddles like need about 5 towels to soak up that I first asked the OH why he spilt a "bucket of water" in the hall!

I was in the vets the other day, a lady came in with a fab dalmation/lab cross - dog - dripping urine constantly - she (lady) was really upset. I felt so sorry for her (we were all a bit weepy that day in the waiting room!) We all got discussing incontinence (as u do!!) and incontinence in bitches is really common - as you say Millem, sphincter issue. Aren't you lucky that propalin works so well. Any side effects with your dog by the way? (But if shes old I guess thats the least of your worries)

Millem

aonb wrote: »

I was in the vets the other day, a lady came in with a fab dalmation/lab cross - dog - dripping urine constantly - she (lady) was really upset. I felt so sorry for her (we were all a bit weepy that day in the waiting room!) We all got discussing incontinence (as u do!!) and incontinence in bitches is really common - as you say Millem, sphincter issue. Aren't you lucky that propalin works so well. Any side effects with your dog by the way? (But if shes old I guess thats the least of your worries)

No side effects from propalin but just realised about an hour ago two of the dog beds are wet so she must of leaked not to worry have started washing them! My other two get upset when this happens (especially when she does it in their beds lol). Hopefully tomorrow will be a dry day for her she doesn't have a clue when she does it. She is such a happy girl (even though she is also blind, has glaucoma, arthritis, hip dysplasia and spondylosis) but still bounces around like a puppy and barks with excitement when she here's the word "dinner" or if anyone goes near the drawer where the leads or balls are kept!

Millem

I really spoke too soon on propalin! Just to update she started full blown leaking again:( vet thinks propalin may have just stopped working as she is on it a few years now. Anyway we doubled her dose (no joy) so she is now on a tablet called incurin and double dose of propalin, fingers crossed she had a dry day today she got blood tests and urine test done as a precaution but we haven't gotten the results back yet. Vet didn't want to go down incurin route as it has oestrogen in it but we are desperate at this stage!

aonb

Millem wrote: »

I really spoke too soon on propalin! Just to update she started full blown leaking again:( vet thinks propalin may have just stopped working as she is on it a few years now. Anyway we doubled her dose (no joy) so she is now on a tablet called incurin and double dose of propalin, fingers crossed she had a dry day today she got blood tests and urine test done as a precaution but we haven't gotten the results back yet. Vet didn't want to go down incurin route as it has oestrogen in it but we are desperate at this stage!

Millem, sorry to hear that you have problems again - will the INCURIN do the job do you think? How does Incurin work vs the Propalin do you know? Fingers crossed it will be sorted very soon

Millem

aonb wrote: »

Millem, sorry to hear that you have problems again - will the INCURIN do the job do you think? How does Incurin work vs the Propalin do you know? Fingers crossed it will be sorted very soon

I didn't get much any info on incurin from vet as at appointment he just mentioned it but wanted to try doubling propalin and to check bloods and urine for kidney/liver/diabetes etc. Doubling propalin didn't work so I just rang first thing and asked for tablets! I can't find much info online but basically incurin gives oestrogen whereas propalin tightens sphincter but propalin won't work if there is not enough oestrogen. This could be completely wrong info though! Both medicines should work instantly if they are going to work so we are delighted! I don't know how long though it will work for maybe a couple of years? There are no alternatives after this though unless we try acupuncture but I don't know anything about that!

aonb

How long was she on the Propalin? Hopefully the new medication will keep her going. It would be interesting to find out if acupuncture would actually help significantly. I must ask a chinese doctor who specialises in acupuncture about it! Maybe someone on here might have some experience? Interesting to know how an animal would react to acupuncture - my aunt in the UK has an elderly very arthritic lurcher, who she has started on acupuncture for her arthritis every month - havent seen her to ask her about it though.

My old guy seems to be better in this aspect since he has recovered from his illness - came home this eve after being out for many hours, to 2 huge puddles, but newspaper and paper towels soon solves that problem (and at his age cant blame him) so hopefully we wont have to worry about meds yet, but good to know that its fixable.

Millem

aonb wrote: »

How long was she on the Propalin? Hopefully the new medication will keep her going. It would be interesting to find out if acupuncture would actually help significantly. I must ask a chinese doctor who specialises in acupuncture about it! Maybe someone on here might have some experience? Interesting to know how an animal would react to acupuncture - my aunt in the UK has an elderly very arthritic lurcher, who she has started on acupuncture for her arthritis every month - havent seen her to ask her about it though.

My old guy seems to be better in this aspect since he has recovered from his illness - came home this eve after being out for many hours, to 2 huge puddles, but newspaper and paper towels soon solves that problem (and at his age cant blame him) so hopefully we wont have to worry about meds yet, but good to know that its fixable.

I reckon she has been on propalin a good 2 years or maybe 3 (I lose count)! My vet wouldn't be one for acupuncture but I know of a vet who does it. I was talking to someone about it but they reckoned the vet mightn't do it because of her age it wouldn't work! Who knows! We really were so blessed that propalin worked so well for so long we took it for granted! It was such a nightmare with her leaking constantly literally though that is it I have been told so if this doesn't work I don't know what to do can't have her leaking everywhere plus she would literally lie in it all day and this will hurt her.