2014 Racing Calendar

pprendeville

Has this been published yet and if so is there a link?

Lusk_Doyle

http://www.cyclingireland.ie/page/events/2014-events-calendar

Plastik

Does anybody know if the amount charged to race in Leinster for 2014 was increased from the previous max of €10? I vaguely remember there being some discussion on it but my GoogleFu is weak today.

lennymc

Plastik wrote: »

Does anybody know if the amount charged to race in Leinster for 2014 was increased from the previous max of €10? I vaguely remember there being some discussion on it but my GoogleFu is weak today.

Yes. Iirc its it's going up to a maximum of 15 at the discretion of the organising club.

Harrybelafonte

So first race of year will be €25? Ned Flanagan for chairty.

lennymc

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

So first race of year will be €25? Ned Flanagan for chairty.

The max amount that can be charged for race entry in Leinster afaik is 15. I don't know if a compulsory charitable donation is considered as part of the entry fee.

Lusk_Doyle

lennymc wrote: »

The max amount that can be charged for race entry in Leinster afaik is 15. I don't know if a compulsory charitable donation is considered as part of the entry fee.

Does not compute!

lennymc

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Does not compute!

I know. I chose my words carefully.

Morrisseeee

Some Munster interests up to August: both race & sportive

Feb 16th : Sun : Donal Crowley Sportive Blarney

Feb 23rd : Sat : Lacey Cup Tralee

Mar 9th : Sun : RAS Luimni

Mar 16th : Sun : Blarney race

Mar 17th : Mon : BobbyPower Memorial (Carrick)

Mar 30th : Sun : Aqua Blue Classic

April 6th : Sun : Silver Pail (Fermoy)

April 13th : Sun : Visit Nenagh Classic

April 19th : Sat : Etape RAS Mumhan
Comeragh Coastal Sportive Waterford

April 20th : Sun : Waterville Classic Race
Hub Tour Kilmallock Sportive

April 27th : Sun : Drumm Cup, Currow Kerry

May 3rd : Sat : Kanturk 3 Day (3rd, 4th, 5th)
Dingle Peninsulla Challenge 125k
Stephen Roche TDC Midleton
West Limerick Hilly 135km

May 11th : Sun : RAS an Clar

May 18th : Sun : Jim O'Leary Race Whitechurch
Humpy 100km Killorglin
Limerick Classic Tour Caherconlish

May 25th : Sun : The Coachford Classic
Comeragh Tour

May 27th : Tue : Fermoy League (starting)

May 31st : Sat : Blarney 2 Day (31st, 1st)

June 1st : Sun : Bandon sportive
The Kingdom Alliance Sportive (Tralee)

June 8th : Sun : Leahy Cup
Twomey Memorial Sportive (Rockchapel Cork)

June 15th : Sun : Dungarvan Open

June 21st : Sat : An Post Tour de Burren
Pedal The peninsula
West Cork 200 Cycle (Bantry)

June 22nd : Sun : Kieran MacMahon Memorial Classic (Clonlara, Limerick)
The Muskerry Tour
Tour of The Galty's

June 29th : Sun : Ambo Ramble (Ballinhassig)

July 6th : Sun : Tommy Sheehan Memorial (Carrick)

July 13th : Sun : Tralee Manor West GP
C4sc Awareness Tour (Limerick City)

July 21st : Sat : Iveragh 200

July 20th : Sun : Munster Road Race (Whitechurch)

July 27th : Sun : Midleton CTC Grand Prix (Cloyne)

Aug 3rd : Sun : Suir Valley 3 Day
Suir Valley Sportive
Mick Dineen Cycle (Ballingeary)

Aug 10th : Sun : Dan O Donovan memorial (Fermoy)

Plastik

Likely we'll see all races in the region going to €15 or do you think some will remain at €10?

J Madone

Plastik wrote: »

Likely we'll see all races in the region going to €15 or do you think some will remain at €10?

Personally think 15 euro is a fair price for a shot of adrenaline

luapenak

J Madone wrote: »

Personally think 15 euro is a fair price for a shot of adrenaline

Between CI membership, club membership & club league fees, I would definitely not be happy with an extra fiver per open race. Organizers would want a very good reason for up-ing the cost

Plastik

J Madone wrote: »

Personally think 15 euro is a fair price for a shot of adrenaline

I would agree completely.

Races don't run themselves and with the cost of ambulances and everything else the extra €5 a head could help out a massive amount. It's less than the price of a pint. Less than the price of a tube. I would'nt begrudge a club the additional when in many cases races are run at a loss.

michael196

Morrisseeee wrote: »

Some Munster interests up to August: both race & sportive

Feb 16th : Sun : Donal Crowley Sportive Blarney

Feb 23rd : Sat : Lacey Cup Tralee

Mar 9th : Sun : RAS Luimni

Mar 16th : Sun : Blarney race

Mar 17th : Mon : BobbyPower Memorial (Carrick)

Mar 30th : Sun : Aqua Blue Classic

April 6th : Sun : Silver Pail (Fermoy)

April 13th : Sun : Visit Nenagh Classic

April 19th : Sat : Etape RAS Mumhan
Comeragh Coastal Sportive Waterford

April 20th : Sun : Waterville Classic Race
Hub Tour Kilmallock Sportive

April 27th : Sun : Drumm Cup, Currow Kerry

May 3rd : Sat : Kanturk 3 Day (3rd, 4th, 5th)
Dingle Peninsulla Challenge 125k
Stephen Roche TDC Midleton
West Limerick Hilly 135km

May 11th : Sun : RAS an Clar

May 18th : Sun : Jim O'Leary Race Whitechurch
Humpy 100km Killorglin
Limerick Classic Tour Caherconlish

May 25th : Sun : The Coachford Classic
Comeragh Tour

May 27th : Tue : Fermoy League (starting)

May 31st : Sat : Blarney 2 Day (31st, 1st)

June 1st : Sun : Bandon sportive
The Kingdom Alliance Sportive (Tralee)

June 8th : Sun : Leahy Cup
Twomey Memorial Sportive (Rockchapel Cork)

June 15th : Sun : Dungarvan Open

June 21st : Sat : An Post Tour de Burren
Pedal The peninsula
West Cork 200 Cycle (Bantry)

June 22nd : Sun : Kieran MacMahon Memorial Classic (Clonlara, Limerick)
The Muskerry Tour
Tour of The Galty's

June 29th : Sun : Ambo Ramble (Ballinhassig)

July 6th : Sun : Tommy Sheehan Memorial (Carrick)

July 13th : Sun : Tralee Manor West GP
C4sc Awareness Tour (Limerick City)

July 21st : Sat : Iveragh 200

July 20th : Sun : Munster Road Race (Whitechurch)

July 27th : Sun : Midleton CTC Grand Prix (Cloyne)

Aug 3rd : Sun : Suir Valley 3 Day
Suir Valley Sportive
Mick Dineen Cycle (Ballingeary)

Aug 10th : Sun : Dan O Donovan memorial (Fermoy)

Sean Kelly Tour of Waterford, the Charlville 2 day and the Stafford wholesale Wexford 2 day just got sawn off there !!!

michael196

Plastik wrote: »

I would agree completely.

Races don't run themselves and with the cost of ambulances and everything else the extra €5 a head could help out a massive amount. It's less than the price of a pint. Less than the price of a tube. I would'nt begrudge a club the additional when in many cases races are run at a loss.

am afraid plastic is correct. most one day races run at a loss. the extra 5 just gives less headaches and happier AGM's.

My understanding from WAV on here is that 12 euro minimum to 15 euro maximum.

always tell the organisers if you feel u do not get ur moneys worth, and say exactly what would close the value gap for you. ( more food ?, better prizes ? facilities ? )


in 2013, go to munster and race for 15 euro or leinster for 10 euro.. frustrating for the loss making races in leinster.

ragazzo

michael196 wrote: »

Sean Kelly Tour of Waterford, the Charlville 2 day and the Stafford wholesale Wexford 2 day just got sawn off there !!!

The poster was posting about Munster events.
Surely Wexford has not changed province? Are you not still in Leinster, Michael?

wav1

lennyc has worded it spot on.race organisers in Leinster ''can charge up to a maximum of e15''for one day races.The committee [including myself]felt that a 20% increase to e12 would have sufficed to cover the rising fixed costs of running races but it was put forward at the agm to allow a max of e15 and was passed.i know some will charge the full e15 but i would hope that some will keep it somewhere in between the 10 and 15.Thats a dad of 3 seniors this year who are all students and will be waiting on the entry fee out the window of the car each sunday thats speaking now,but in reality e15 is about right and i dont think there will be too many complaints.plenty of races in the calender and a few new additions.

bcmf

I take it the one day license is gone.

michael196

ragazzo wrote: »

The poster was posting about Munster events.
Surely Wexford has not changed province? Are you not still in Leinster, Michael?

Wexford is independent !!

michael196

bcmf wrote: »

I take it the one day license is gone.

was gone in 2013

bcmf

michael196 wrote: »

was gone in 2013

was available up to April 2013

RobFowl

michael196 wrote: »

was gone in 2013

Gone for road racing, still there for off road AFAIK

pprendeville

I remember Ryan_Sherlock saying that prize money goes 40 deep in Belgium. It would be better IMO if race organisers adopted this strategy (maybe not 40deep but maybe 10-15 anyway) as then at least we could get back some of the fees incurred. Take a few photos of the top 5 guys with sponsors. I suppose the only negative would maybe be crazy sprinting at the end and deciding who actually rolled across the line in which places (although this seems to cause enough problems at the moment already - is there a better solution in place for this year?) but if they can do it in Belgium then why not here?

Plastik

Because the field isn't big enough at the current entry fee. I am crunching the figures on a new A3 race at the moment and would need roughly 100 riders at €10 a head to simply break even. From that only €200 is allocated to prize money which only goes to the top six and only gives 6th place his entry plus a €10 prize.

At €15 a head a field of only 70 is needed. The extra €5 a head will go a long way to maybe making clubs that don't already run a race on the calendar consider it because it's financially viable.

dafman

Lads is the one day licence for first few road races gone for sure this year .I think last year that it was there till April ?

morana

dafman wrote: »

Lads is the one day licence for first few road races gone for sure this year .I think last year that it was there till April ?

ask them on twitter as they dont hangt out here @IreCyclingFed

Beasty

morana wrote: »

ask them on twitter as they dont hangt out here anymore

FYP
We need to get another Boardsie on the Board (or the same "old" one back again;))

GMCI

One day licences are available again until April 1st.
Reason it works down to too 40 in Belgium is local businesses all chip in a couple f quid sponsorship to have the event in their town or village.
Majority of races here don't have sponsors and run basically on what sign on money comes in that morning. Plus many race are finishing on back roads to avoid traffic issues and congestion. Sponsors won't chip in for that. Vicious circle really

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

FYP
We need to get another Boardsie on the Board (or the same "old" one back again;))

From the way boards.ie was spoken of at the AGM I'd say fat chance........

lennymc

GMCI wrote: »

One day licences are available again until April 1st.

Where did you hear this? I thought they were gone from April last year. I didn't hear anything about them coming back at the AGM, but maybe I missed it.

Morrisseeee

michael196 wrote: »

Sean Kelly Tour of Waterford, the Charlville 2 day and the Stafford wholesale Wexford 2 day just got sawn off there !!!

That's another post Michael, I was saving the best till last :cool:

Beasty

RobFowl wrote: »

From the way boards.ie was spoken of at the AGM I'd say fat chance........

The ex-President made it absolutely clear to me he doesn't "do" Boards. I think the current one is far more amenable to listening to what the wider membership have to say rather than a small number of vocal people who have probably had more than their fair share of influence in the past

I also think we showed pretty clearly over the past 12 months the power the membership can wield when it puts its mind to it, and tbh this is the only online discussion site in Ireland that has a significant number of grass-roots members contributing from across the board with a wide range (and in my view reasonably representative) of views

GMCI

lennymc wrote: »

Where did you hear this? I thought they were gone from April last year. I didn't hear anything about them coming back at the AGM, but maybe I missed it.

I just know. Yes they are gone from April lay year but CI held onto the use of them until April 1st, more as a safety net in the event of the usual licencing chaos that normally ensues with the road racing season

bcmf

bcmf wrote: »

I take it the one day license is gone.

GMCI wrote: »

One day licences are available again until April 1st.

I have twittered @IreCyclingFred (sic) about the one day license

Lusk_Doyle

Beasty wrote: »

The ex-President made it absolutely clear to me he doesn't "do" Boards.

Probably better off that way. Splinters are a bugger to get out of your hand. Imagine getting one in the nudge nudge wink wink!

pprendeville

This thread is gone totally off topic. Beasty, what are you at? Btw, did anyone see Fair City last night, I missed the RTE Player version. Can some fill me in quickly?

Slo_Rida

GMCI wrote: »

One day licences are available again until April 1st.

So if someone was to get the club licence one and then decided to upgrade to the full racing licence, do they pay full whack on both or would the price of the first one be deducted from the second?

I know if the latter was the case you would rope in a considerably bigger number of racers.

Chips Lovell

My understanding is that you've just go to pay the difference.

Lusk_Doyle

pprendeville wrote: »

This thread is gone totally off topic. Beasty, what are you at? Btw, did anyone see Fair City last night, I missed the RTE Player version. Can some fill me in quickly?

You never thanked my post where I very kindly provided you with a link to the 2014 events calendar with some very difficult and laborious google-fu-ing :mad:

Shadow78

Is there any nice spread sheet of the events like the one morana had last year? As handy as the google calendar is it's pretty awful at usability when there are lots of races on the one day. Spread sheets are also handy for filtering eg, races only and by province.

Beasty

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

You never thanked my post where I very kindly provided you with a link to the 2014 events calendar with some very difficult and laborious google-fu-ing :mad:

I think he's busy so I've thanked it to soothe your madness ...

Beasty

Shadow78 wrote: »

Is there any nice spread sheet of the events like the one morana had last year? As handy as the google calendar is it's pretty awful at usability when there are lots of races on the one day. Spread sheets are also handy for filtering eg, races only and by province.

I agree that's a better format. They had one at the AGM so I'm sure it's available, but alas without our "mole" we don't tend to see this sort of stuff any more ...

(BTW Ulster do put their calendars up in spreadsheet form on their own website)

Chips Lovell

I believe there are ways of importing a Google calendar into a spreadsheet, but I haven't attempted it.

couerdelion

Slo_Rida wrote: »

So if someone was to get the club licence one and then decided to upgrade to the full racing licence, do they pay full whack on both or would the price of the first one be deducted from the second?

I know if the latter was the case you would rope in a considerably bigger number of racers.

I did exactly this last year. Just paid the extra on top of the club licence fee I had already paid.

Shadow78 wrote: »

Is there any nice spread sheet of the events like the one morana had last year? As handy as the google calendar is it's pretty awful at usability when there are lots of races on the one day. Spread sheets are also handy for filtering eg, races only and by province.

On the calendar you can filter by clicking the down rrow next to where it says "Agenda". Would still be nice to have a pdf I can print out and stick on the fridge door and that says which categories they apply to.

goose06

couerdelion wrote: »

Would still be nice to have a pdf I can print out and stick on the fridge door and that says which categories they apply to.

If you click on the Print option on the calendar it will give you an option to save as a PDF, just fill in the date range you want.

Slo_Rida

Beasty wrote: »

I think he's busy so I've thanked it to soothe your madness ...

+1...just in case

boege

GMCI wrote: »

One day licences are available again until April 1st.
Reason it works down to too 40 in Belgium is local businesses all chip in a couple f quid sponsorship to have the event in their town or village.
Majority of races here don't have sponsors and run basically on what sign on money comes in that morning. Plus many race are finishing on back roads to avoid traffic issues and congestion. Sponsors won't chip in for that. Vicious circle really

Timmy Barry wrote a good article somewhere (sticky bottle?) about this issue recently. He argued that cycling needs to get back into the towns and this will bring sponsors. Easier said than done, I know, but Rene Van Dam has done a great job in Nenagh. Clubs size is also an issue as many are too small and as a result underresourced.

bcmf

I think it would be great to have a crit series for all cats.
I thought the crit in Balbriggan was great and used to race the crit in Finglas (back in the Black and White days)
Get the local councils on board.
EG
A friday night crit series in Fingal (Balbriggan, Skerries, Blanch/Castleknock Malahide) and so on....

wav1

on topic handbooks are supposed to be available from next week including the calender.
off topic...Rene does do a great job in getting the race in to Nenagh,but you have to remember that they are sponsored by the local authority/tourism,so he would have a heads up there.Not that easy to get races in to towns.May appear easy from the outside,but believe me its not.feel free to try.I think it would be great by the way..

Diarmuid

Shadow78 wrote: »

Is there any nice spread sheet of the events like the one morana had last year? As handy as the google calendar is it's pretty awful at usability when there are lots of races on the one day. Spread sheets are also handy for filtering eg, races only and by province.

When I added th CI calendar into my calendar last week there were separate calendars for each discipline per province. So you can show Leinster racing only, if you want

theenergy

hi guys

i do a bit of cycling nothing competive yet

would like to give a race a go

based in dublin

any suggestions on this?