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Turned down directly by company but see position is also being offered by an agency

  • 03-01-2014 5:35pm
    #1
    loverslane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭


    I have just been turned down for a position within a company or rather wasn't even offered an interview.

    I fit the brief perfectly so a little bemused. I see the position is also being offered by two agencies.

    Would it be worth a shot contacting them with a view to them submitting my application or should I just let it go.

    Anyone had any similar experience?


Comments

  • #2
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    If you've applied to the company and been turned down, then they're probably only advertising it to fulfill legal obligations, but they've already decided to give it to someone internally.


  • #3
    Nody
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    All that would happen is that the company would see your CV again and reject you a second time; waste of your, the agency and the company's time.


  • #4
    whatnext
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭whatnext


    seamus wrote: »
    If you've applied to the company and been turned down, then they're probably only advertising it to fulfill legal obligations, but they've already decided to give it to someone internally.

    I'm not aware of any legal obligations to advertise jobs? There is a good chance that if a company advertised directly that the couldn't handle the response.

    I've been asked by 2 companies in the past year to shortlist and screen cvs that they received directly. The simply didn't have the time or resources to do it themselves.

    I'd chat to one of the agents. Let them know you heard nothing back and it they agree that you are a good fit and have a good relationship with the company they my be able to open the door for you.

    If you are honest with them you have nothing to lose.


  • #5
    Nody
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    whatnext wrote: »
    I'm not aware of any legal obligations to advertise jobs? There is a good chance that if a company advertised directly that the couldn't handle the response.

    I've been asked by 2 companies in the past year to shortlist and screen cvs that they received directly. The simply didn't have the time or resources to do it themselves.

    I'd chat to one of the agents. Let them know you heard nothing back and it they agree that you are a good fit and have a good relationship with the company they my be able to open the door for you.

    If you are honest with them you have nothing to lose.
    He said he got rejected and did not get an interview; to me that sounds like a "Thanks but no thanks" response.


  • #6
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    It depends on whether you think that the company did actually look at your application and say "no", or if you think they looked at a stack of 200 applications and "yikes, we can't deal with that, let's outsource".

    Worse case, apply to the agency, and the company thinks even less of you than they did before, and still doesn't hire you.

    Best case, apply to the agency and they bring you to the company's attention, and perhaps address the issue that stopped the company (or perhaps just the company's HR people) liking you before.

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


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  • #7
    pow wow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    The agency will ask who you've previously applied to and as you'll mention the company concerned they're unlikely to put you forward because they may not get paid as they didn't make the first introduction - you did.

    Advertising when a job is earmarked for an internal candidate is a waste of everyone's time but par for the course - 'Oh look 20 people applied and James from Accounts is still the best candidate' - job done.


  • #8
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    whatnext wrote: »
    I'm not aware of any legal obligations to advertise jobs?
    When I say "legal", I'm really referring to trade union agreements or contractual obligations.

    Some companies are required to advertise all vacant positions internally and/or externally.

    It also used to be the case that if a company wanted to hire someone on a work visa, they had to advertise and show that no-one in Ireland was qualified, but I don't know if that still applies. The trick back then was to advertise it, turn down all applicants and then hire the foreign person.


  • #9
    Somlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭Somlad


    Lovers lane,
    Why do you think you fit the position perfectly?
    As a recruiter I get this all the time with people thinking they are perfect for the role when the applicant doesn't know the weighting of the key selection criteria. The hiring manager does, maybe that's why you weren't considered. Also Seamus, it's nonsense to suggest its just being advertised for legal reasons, why give the role to two agencies then?


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