Old Stone Buildings

loveta

Just wondering what i should do in relation to two stone buildings i own which after the wind are showing they are in need of some serious TLC.
The situation/problem what ever way you look at is they sit on a half acre of ground apox across a main road from the main farm block on a tight bend there is about a 1/4 acre garden behind them the rest is yard.The stone in the buildings is pretty sound the roofs on them are in need of total replacement.They are only 12' wide internally and about 100' long and the other is about 15' internal square house none of which are any real use to me other than holding junk which i dont have much of had a builder look at them and he reckons 4-5k to do a job on them but they still are no cop to me after it and i feel i will be throwing good money after bad esp when there is a general purpose shed in the pipe line for the main yard, but then a bit of me thinks it would be OTT to knock them esp when the have stood for prob 150 years, any advice guys??

Reggie.

loveta wrote: »

Just wondering what i should do in relation to two stone buildings i own which after the wind are showing they are in need of some serious TLC.
The situation/problem what ever way you look at is they sit on a half acre of ground apox across a main road from the main farm block on a tight bend there is about a 1/4 acre garden behind them the rest is yard.The stone in the buildings is pretty sound the roofs on them are in need of total replacement.They are only 12' wide internally and about 100' long and the other is about 15' internal square house none of which are any real use to me other than holding junk which i dont have much of had a builder look at them and he reckons 4-5k to do a job on them but they still are no cop to me after it and i feel i will be throwing good money after bad esp when there is a general purpose shed in the pipe line for the main yard, but then a bit of me thinks it would be OTT to knock them esp when the have stood for prob 150 years, any advice guys??

if the walls were sound, would it be possible to justuse cladding on the roof or would you be looking to go back to slates (im assuming thats what is on the roof already)

jersey101

Would it be possible to sell them? Someone might like a site like that to renovate up the building and add on to it? If its away from your main yard it might be an option?

draiochtanois

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bbam

loveta wrote: »

Just wondering what i should do in relation to two stone buildings i own which after the wind are showing they are in need of some serious TLC.
The situation/problem what ever way you look at is they sit on a half acre of ground apox across a main road from the main farm block on a tight bend there is about a 1/4 acre garden behind them the rest is yard.The stone in the buildings is pretty sound the roofs on them are in need of total replacement.They are only 12' wide internally and about 100' long and the other is about 15' internal square house none of which are any real use to me other than holding junk which i dont have much of had a builder look at them and he reckons 4-5k to do a job on them but they still are no cop to me after it and i feel i will be throwing good money after bad esp when there is a general purpose shed in the pipe line for the main yard, but then a bit of me thinks it would be OTT to knock them esp when the have stood for prob 150 years, any advice guys??

This is a tough one..
From a business perspective the answer is knock them and spend money on practical buildings...
But:
In a manner they are central to the heritage of our industry and should be maintained.. but at what cost?

We managed to keep about 2/3 of ours by roofing with sheeting.. One is extremely useful as the crush runs along it and its an ideal isolation pen..
Some were left too long and are now beyond saving and crumbling down.

hugo29

loveta wrote: »

Just wondering what i should do in relation to two stone buildings i own which after the wind are showing they are in need of some serious TLC.
The situation/problem what ever way you look at is they sit on a half acre of ground apox across a main road from the main farm block on a tight bend there is about a 1/4 acre garden behind them the rest is yard.The stone in the buildings is pretty sound the roofs on them are in need of total replacement.They are only 12' wide internally and about 100' long and the other is about 15' internal square house none of which are any real use to me other than holding junk which i dont have much of had a builder look at them and he reckons 4-5k to do a job on them but they still are no cop to me after it and i feel i will be throwing good money after bad esp when there is a general purpose shed in the pipe line for the main yard, but then a bit of me thinks it would be OTT to knock them esp when the have stood for prob 150 years, any advice guys??

without seeing them its hard to say really, be careful they are not listed or protected before you touch them

after that as someone else says just re roof in cladding, are the walls stable

send me a pic and i will look at them for you

freedominacup

hugo29 wrote: »

without seeing them its hard to say really, be careful they are not listed or protected before you touch them

after that as someone else says just re roof in cladding, are the walls stable

send me a pic and i will look at them for you

Bizzarely there's no law against letting them crumble away but as soon as you touch a listed building you put someone else in charge of your property. It might have a site value as Jersey said because planning permissions are much harder to come by nowadays. Hugo is right to advise caution.

zetecescort

Where can you check if buildings are listed, in a similar situation to the OP myself.

hugo29

zetecescort wrote: »

Where can you check if buildings are listed, in a similar situation to the OP myself.

local county council would have a list of protected structures ,

Reggie.

would this list be online

hugo29

Reggie. wrote: »

would this list be online

yes, go to your local council website and in the current development plan there will be a list of protected structures, you can also call in and ask to see the list

it is also worth checking the department of the environment website to see if it is listed there as a building that the heritage council recommend should be a protected structure

Brown Podzol

If you are in reps 4 there is a grant to renovate.


http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2013/10/coveney-announces-2014-traditional-farm-buildings-grant-scheme/

loveta

Well guys thanks for the replys, the buildings although have an entrance onto the road its on a bad bend so to get new planning for domestic use holiday home instead of ag i would reckon would be a non runner but i honestly dont know.Selling the site like jersey said could seriously back fire if i got the wrong sort of neighbours in "ive heard horror stories" If i am honest i prob would knock them in the morning if i though id get a lump for the stones that would put a whole in the shed i have planned to build in the very near future

dzer2

Hard to know If it were me I would re roof them only to leave them after me, as I love the sight of old buildings in the country side. I wouldnt rule out the holiday cottage idea just yet. A lot of CO Councils are looking for rentable houses to put into their rent allowance schemes. Also if you did get them restored you might have an investment for the future.

49801

dzer2 wrote: »

Hard to know If it were me I would re roof them only to leave them after me, as I love the sight of old buildings in the country side. I wouldnt rule out the holiday cottage idea just yet. A lot of CO Councils are looking for rentable houses to put into their rent allowance schemes. Also if you did get them restored you might have an investment for the future.

Around here the coco even house people in renovated stone outhouses that don't have planning... So a good earner!:D

greysides

bbam wrote: »

This is a tough one..
From a business perspective the answer is knock them and spend money on practical buildings...
But:
In a manner they are central to the heritage of our industry and should be maintained.. but at what cost?

I agree with this. I love the look of old stone buildings. Some were poorly founded and are now cracked and bulging but when in good repair in an old yard, nothing looks just so 'right'. I watched as someone bought an old farmyard, knocked some of the worst out-houses and repaired a few more; then built a two storey dwelling house with matching stone cladding. Just like that he had a premium looking yard and house. All it took was foresight.

randomperson12

bbam wrote: »

This is a tough one..
From a business perspective the answer is knock them and spend money on practical buildings...
But:
In a manner they are central to the heritage of our industry and should be maintained.. but at what cost?

We managed to keep about 2/3 of ours by roofing with sheeting.. One is extremely useful as the crush runs along it and its an ideal isolation pen..
Some were left too long and are now beyond saving and crumbling down.

the knocking them part u said wouldnt make sece people might have had to work alot to build those sheds

randomperson12

post up a pic

gozunda

The way I look at it is that you could not afford to pay anyone to build these type of stone buildings today. That skill is largely lost.

A good use for older buildings as someone suggested such as isolation or quarantine units with just a small amount of works

Alternatively use for wood drying and become fuel efficient or adapt for alternative enterprise such as Turkey or poultry raising. Alternatively divided into 12x12 units as long as you have sufficient height you have the possibility with the yard and ground as a livery enterprise for horses - in the UK many such yards are DIY so are a good income stream without having to be heavily involved.

It's a matter of adapting what you have to what you can use it for.
I also like the look of these building. Mass poured concrete whilst useful never looks quite so good.

elperello

I'd be inclined to keep them because even if you don't see a use for them someone coming after you might be glad of them for some enterprise.
Besides if you knock them and clear the site some County Council engineer might decide to do job on that bad bend and you will lose a skelp of land.

Reggie.

elperello wrote: »

I'd be inclined to keep them because even if you don't see a use for them someone coming after you might be glad of them for some enterprise.
Besides if you knock them and clear the site some County Council engineer might decide to do job on that bad bend and you will lose a skelp of land.

Now there's a thought, good man

49801

Handy for home reared pigs for your own consumption?

We use and old building for storing timber.
Complete pain tbh as the entrance is too narrow for machinery and we end up re handling which drives me wild. That said it is still very handy!!!