WILLY EXPOSED IN SNAPCHAT EXPLOIT

lostdisk

Looks my mate Willy is in for a scare tomorrow. Snapchat users have been hacked! Looks like many peoples privates may have been probed. Snapchat staff have been fingered in a recent tweet. "Backdoor entry was too easy" said one tweeter.

I'm surprised they didnt get some kind of virus by now.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25572661

MadsL

Expected a Willie O'Dea thread. Disappoint.

Peregrine

Hey, there's no genitalia here :mad:

The Diabolical Monocle

Read the link OP.

Interesting little article you've got there.

However, I didn't notice any penile reference or link to your many phallic inyourendo's, what (other than my ma) brought up this hole willy thing ?

The Backwards Man

Litlle Willy Willy won't go home
Oh you can't push Willy where Willy won't go. . .

Absoluvely

NB: only specific areas of America were included - if you're outside of America, you're probably fine.

Enter your username on this here webpage to see if your Willy (or whatever your name is) was exposed.

expectationlost

snapchat was warned months ago and snapchat did very little

Lenin Skynard

lostdisk wrote: »

Snapchat staff have been fingered

Sexy young hipster girl snapchat staff. Downloading it now. Thanks!

shamelessidiot

Isn't it only a database of phone numbers and usernames? Only affects certain phone numbers in the US from what I read earlier.

J_E

Snapchat - lowest point in social media history? Can't get much more pointless in terms of social apps.

danniemcq

shamelessidiot wrote: »

Isn't it only a database of phone numbers and usernames? Only affects certain phone numbers in the US from what I read earlier.

yup, no pictures or anything have been leaked just usernames and phone numbers that were originally censored by ** out the last 2 digits but now they have been removed completly

I added snapchat last week because people were talking about it.

So far I've gotten a pic of a dog with the drunken tag "I'll miss her little face so much". A pair of "awesome" socks (they were not so awesome). A video of a kettle boiling and of a toilet flushing (the inside of the cistern, not the yucky stuff).

Yes. I'm soooo glad I added snapchat. So glad.

Gummy Panda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I added snapchat last week because people were talking about it.

So far I've gotten a pic of a dog with the drunken tag "I'll miss her little face so much". A pair of "awesome" socks (they were not so awesome). A video of a kettle boiling and of a toilet flushing (the inside of the cistern, not the yucky stuff).

Yes. I'm soooo glad I added snapchat. So glad.

*sends willy pic*

Meangadh

Yeah I really don't see the point of Snapchat at all. I mean, the whole point of it is to send a pic that only lasts a few seconds before disappearing- but sure you can do a screen grab of them anyway. Stupid.

RoboRat

read the article...

In its report published on 25 December, Gibson Security warned that a vulnerability on the Snapchat app could be used to reveal the phone numbers of users.

Who the fcuk publishes an article on Christmas Day... Get a life FFS.

goz83

I reckon the point of it is to send dirty pics that wont last very long. Kind of sad really. My sister, bro in law and all his friends use it. One of the lads is constantly sending nude pics to a shared group. He is the type that will be fully clothed one minute, and butt naked the next without warning.

RoboRat

He is the type that will be fully clothed one minute, and butt naked the next without warning.

That describes half the male population in Ireland after a few drinks...

Meangadh

Yeah I get the whole "Ooh I'll send a dirty picture and sure it'll disappear then" but sure screen grab that and there it is forever. Stupid.

Annasopra

Gummy Panda wrote: »

*sends willy pic*

Is that your dog?

danniemcq

RoboRat wrote: »

Who the fcuk publishes an article on Christmas Day... Get a life FFS.

Loads of people, Christmas is just another day just cause you see it as a day of rest or whatever doesn't mean everyone else does. Especially in tech where a delay of a day means the difference in being the original or just a copy cat. The hacking of the kinect to get it to run on a PC, guy was close to cracking it and went to bed and woke up and someone else had done it.

Meangadh wrote: »

Yeah I get the whole "Ooh I'll send a dirty picture and sure it'll disappear then" but sure screen grab that and there it is forever. Stupid.

yeah but you get a notification if you take a screen grab so then you know that the person is a twat and someone you shouldn't send a pic to again and you can get them to delete it

Sleepy

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

yeah but you get a notification if you take a screen grab so then you know that the person is a twat and someone you shouldn't send a pic to again and you can get them to delete it

I've not so much as installed it but I can guarantee there's a workaround or app that gets around that.

Godawful idea for an app that lulls the young and technically illiterate into a false sense of security when doing something with possibly life-destroying ramifications.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against nudity, porn or anything like it and feel it's a shame that our society castigates (or enhances and fetishizes) the naked form but in the real world, identifiable naked pics on-line could end quite a few people's jobs (teachers, social workers etc.) and apps like this make people feel far more tech savvy than they actually are.

danniemcq

Sleepy wrote: »

I've not so much as installed it but I can guarantee there's a workaround or app that gets around that.

Godawful idea for an app that lulls the young and technically illiterate into a false sense of security when doing something with possibly life-destroying ramifications.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against nudity, porn or anything like it and feel it's a shame that our society castigates (or enhances and fetishizes) the naked form but in the real world, identifiable naked pics on-line could end quite a few people's jobs (teachers, social workers etc.) and apps like this make people feel far more tech savvy than they actually are.

yeah there are but they have made it very awkward to get around it in ios7 it was really easy till they plugged the hole and there are always low tech ways around it (use a camera to take an actual photo of the screen for example). I believe that even without this or other hacks it has been possible to retrieve photos off a phone but that involved freezing the phone so not the easiest.

As always when sending photos of an explicit nature there are some basic rules

1. Always assume they are going to be leaked
2. Never include a face
3. ALWAYS ASSUSME THEY ARE GOING TO BE LEAKED

Gummy Panda

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

yeah there are but they have made it very awkward to get around it in ios7 it was really easy till they plugged the hole and there are always low tech ways around it (use a camera to take an actual photo of the screen for example). I believe that even without this or other hacks it has been possible to retrieve photos off a phone but that involved freezing the phone so not the easiest.

As always when sending photos of an explicit nature there are some basic rules

1. Always assume they are going to be leaked
2. Never include a face
3. ALWAYS ASSUSME THEY ARE GOING TO BE LEAKED

Make sure your bits are clean

The fact that it sends you a notification is useless though - too late at the stage sure your boobs could have all over the internet by then.

As sleepy says, it's an app that lulls people into a false sense of security and that's never a good thing when it comes to techology.

SpaceTime

I'm getting a bit sick of the almost auto-opt in to uploads to 'back up' on Google+ and iCloud etc.

Your phone's camera is increasingly not as secure as you'd think, especially with some of the utterly daft permissions Android apps seem to ask for.

While I'm not a huge fan of iOS, there's at least a bit less deep integration into data mining social networks.

If you weren't particularly IT savvy, you could easily end up publishing stuff online that you thought was private

I mean for example, I know business people who take photos of documents with their phone and all sorts of stuff. It's not entirely about pics of your bits. It's just getting too easy to publish (share), particularly on Androids.

I don't really 'get' snap chat to be honest. It's like twitter for the illiterate?

Meangadh

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

yeah but you get a notification if you take a screen grab so then you know that the person is a twat and someone you shouldn't send a pic to again and you can get them to delete it

Not much use if a photo of your bits have been sent around to all and sundry. Bit late to be shutting the gate after the horse had bolted- the person might be a twat but now your twat is on show to everyone else.

Edit: I just noticed your username. Maybe you're ok about photos of your bits, you seem quite open about that kind of thing!

danniemcq

Meangadh wrote: »

Not much use if a photo of your bits have been sent around to all and sundry. Bit late to be shutting the gate after the horse had bolted- the person might be a twat but now your twat is on show to everyone else.

Edit: I just noticed your username. Maybe you're ok about photos of your bits, you seem quite open about that kind of thing!

Yup agreed but thats always been the way and at least with the notification you can track a source instead of the way it used to be.

There is 0 ways of being safe in this day and age with things like that you can only hope that whoever is receiving what you are sending is a decent person.

As for me... Blame the kids for my username and as for photos... sweet jesus yes there are photos of me online that really shouldn't (check SSF thread for one prime example ) but none involve nudity ... well maybe some, and there are photos of me on peoples phones but again i don't really have an issue with them. I'm an adult and I know that those people are sound and even if they were leaked or posted online as long as its not malicious and they give me a heads up!

Reekwind

Sleepy wrote: »

Godawful idea for an app that lulls the young and technically illiterate into a false sense of security when doing something with possibly life-destroying ramifications

Because before Snapchat the internet was devoid of pictures of foolish teenagers wearing very little?

danniemcq

Reekwind wrote: »

Because before Snapchat the internet was devoid of pictures of foolish teenagers wearing very little?

I think the point Sleepy was making is that it seems more secure than it actually is. People hear about it and automatically assume that yeah this is fine and won't come back and haunt me, especially when you have the other person who may know the workaround to save can pressure them saying yeah its safe it deletes it etc etc

Reekwind

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

I think the point Sleepy was making is that it seems more secure than it actually is. People hear about it and automatically assume that yeah this is fine and won't come back and haunt me, especially when you have the other person who may know the workaround to save can pressure them saying yeah its safe it deletes it etc etc

My problem here is that I don't believe that this security aspect is actually relevant to Snapchat's appeal. That they're temporary is important but not because people are preparing for lives in politics.

If people want to send pictures of their bits to the boyfriend/girlfriend then they'll do so regardless; as people have done since the invention of the Polaroid. I don't think Snapchat is driving or changing any sort of behaviour there at all.

What it does encourage is the snapshot taking - a quick happy Christmas picture of a tree, friend falling over drunk, new socks, etc - that probably would have been posted to Facebook (in the distant past) or more lately circulated around WhatsApp. The temporary nature of these pictures lies in their disposable nature rather than some real security or reputational concern. Like a text message they are designed to be read once and then forgotten.

Ultimately most people are very unlikely to be anything on their phones that would cause anything more than mild embarrassment if released. And we all have pictures like that on the phones already (images from that night/place where your man/one did this/that) that don't get posted/sent anywhere but get aired every so often when the phone is passed around the pub as we reminiscence.

So yeah, I don't really see the harm in Snapchat at all.

LizT

Just do what I do and drunken snapchat people pictures of your dog. No one wants to leak that.

danniemcq

Sweaty Betty wrote: »

Just do what I do and drunken snapchat people pictures of your dog. No one wants to leak that.

Depends on what its wearing

Sleepy

Reekwind: the supposed disposability and ("traceability" of a screenshot) of a snapchat is the very thing that makes it seem less risky a medium for sexting than an MMS, email or even webcam might to a naieve or technically illiterate person. I can imagine teenage kids using the supposed "security" of such an app to pressure each other into pictures that some of them might have otherwise had the good sense not to send (especially, when, as Dannie pointed out, one of those involved is more technically literate than the other).

We mistakenly consider young people to be technically literate because (a) their use of technology is almost universal and (b) because those of us who used as much tech at the same age in the recent past had to be (e.g. hacking the Windows registry, setting up LANs, over-clocking PCs or even typing in large blocks of code in order to play a game). The reality is that tech has become so accessible, those that use it don't need to know all that much about it any more. While on the surface this is a "good thing", it doesn't come without it's problems.

LizT

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

Depends on what its wearing

Nothing

Reekwind

Reekwind wrote: »

If people want to send pictures of their bits to the boyfriend/girlfriend then they'll do so regardless; as people have done since the invention of the Polaroid. I don't think Snapchat is driving or changing any sort of behaviour there at all.

Boyfriend, perhaps. Some dude they just met on POF - not so much.

It also makes sending and receiving "dodgy" pics more of a social standard than it once was. While that may seem ok on the face of it, it may seem like it's just generally more acceptable and therefore if the evidence gets out it's not as big a deal, the reality is very different.

danniemcq

Sweaty Betty wrote: »

Nothing

The dirty bitch

Reekwind

Sleepy wrote: »

Reekwind: the supposed disposability and ("traceability" of a screenshot) of a snapchat is the very thing that makes it seem less risky a medium for sexting than an MMS, email or even webcam might to a naieve or technically illiterate person. I can imagine teenage kids using the supposed "security" of such an app to pressure each other into pictures that some of them might have otherwise had the good sense not to send (especially, when, as Dannie pointed out, one of those involved is more technically literate than the other)

But I think that this focus on security is almost entirely an adult concern. The reality is that most teenagers who are about to send out a revealing picture of themselves aren't going to stop and think about the potential ramifications - if they did then there would be no such pictures floating around the internet in the first place.

If Snapchat has increased the number of naked pictures being sent out (and it's impossible to say whether it has) then it's because added convenience the app adds. I don't believe that it's due to the belief that everything is now untraceable; particularly since every teenager who has used Snapchat is also aware of the screenshot function.

Deleted User wrote:

It also makes sending and receiving "dodgy" pics more of a social standard than it once was. While that may seem ok on the face of it, it may seem like it's just generally more acceptable and therefore if the evidence gets out it's not as big a deal, the reality is very different.

Does it though?

I can only speak from experience but generally any pictures of me floating about tend to fall into two camps:

• LinkedIn/Facebook: Acceptable for public viewing
• WhatsApp/Snapchat: For friends only

Now this may be just me getting older but a decade ago it wasn't that I was taking less risqué pictures but that everything would tend to end up on Facebook/Bebo (barring the very worst). All that Snapchat has done is narrow the circle of people that I share content with; it's not fundamentally changed the type of content I share.

lostdisk

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Litlle Willy Willy won't go home
Oh you can't push Willy where Willy won't go. . .

....without ramifications.......



lol

Sleepy

Reekwind wrote: »

But I think that this focus on security is almost entirely an adult concern. The reality is that most teenagers who are about to send out a revealing picture of themselves aren't going to stop and think about the potential ramifications - if they did then there would be no such pictures floating around the internet in the first place.

If Snapchat has increased the number of naked pictures being sent out (and it's impossible to say whether it has) then it's because added convenience the app adds. I don't believe that it's due to the belief that everything is now untraceable; particularly since every teenager who has used Snapchat is also aware of the screenshot function.

But when an advertised feature of the app is that you'll be notified if a screenshot is taken, it seems a lot easier to imagine those border-line kids. The ones who might think for a minute and be tempted over the edge of the bad decision by teenage hormones and the promise of at least the knowledge that the other person has broken their trust.

Hell, I can remember chatting in Yahoo Chat in the late 90's with girls who would show their faces on webcam rather than sending a pic because "it was safer". No matter what precautions are put in place there'll still be teenagers who make foolish decisions (witness Slane Girl and the recent Tiesto stuff).

That there are apps out there like this make me all the more determined that my daughter will be tech savvy before she gets near the internet. That she's heard "horror stories" of the repercussions of such pics turning up on-line. She may well still end up sending things and/or having them leaked but it won't be through ignorance and while I'll do everything I can to protect her, it's my belief that people have to live with the consequences of their choices and my experience that it's far easier to accept someones mistakes when they were the result of a betrayal rather than their own ignorance. We all feel sorry for the kid whose supposedly loving boyfriend leaks her pictures, less so for the idiot who sends almost identical images to someone else's boyfriend or the internet at large: an element of "well, what did you expect would happen?" comes into play imo.

The Backwards Man

lostdisk wrote: »

....without ramifications.......



lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbEuRzlhIs