What is the true agenda of the Eurozone?

lufties

With Latvia now in the ever increasing club they call the EZ, I wonder what the real agenda is. It was supposedly created to prevent wars, but it would be naive to think that now though. The cynic in me would say its a tool used to exploit countries, but its hard to decipher since we are bombarded with enough propaganda and spin on a daily basis to make your head spin. One thing is for sure, the idea of unelected figures in Brussels calling the shots in affecting others lives, is indeed a worrying factor for the future.

Thespoofer

To create the next China, except with alot more regulations.

jacksie66

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lufties

Thespoofer wrote: »

To create the next China, except with alot more regulations.

How about the NWO?

kneemos

Cheap labour,essential to maintain productivity and competitiveness.

lufties

kneemos wrote: »

Cheap labour,essential to maintain productivity and competitiveness.

salaries differ throughout the EZ so I dont know what you mean.

kneemos

lufties wrote: »

salaries differ throughout the EZ so I dont know what you mean.

Richer countries can continue to pay basic wages for menial jobs
with immigrants from poorer countries.Not dissimilar to the US and Mexico.

HughMann

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

lufties

HughMann wrote: »

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

Oh yea because it has been such a success thus far? Take a look around you.

NuckingFacker

It's always about money and power, everything is, so follow the money and the power.

jacksie66

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NuckingFacker

HughMann wrote: »

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

You should write Euro propaganda for a living- that's ^ very slick!

Oh, you do? Oh, right, grand so. Don't mind me.

FreshKnickers

You can get a great big Toberlone at my local EuroZone for €2.

jank

Vanity project for a small number of politicians.

BMJD

HughMann wrote: »

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

Happy new year Enda!

Chips Lovell

lufties wrote: »

One thing is for sure, the idea of unelected figures in Brussels calling the shots in affecting others lives, is indeed a worrying factor for the future.

Thankfully unelected figures in Brussels aren't calling the shots.

Phoebas

Is this one of these threads full of wild accusations that the EZ is a conspiracy of the 'elites' to control the citizenry and where any positive contributors are just paid shills?

Phoebas

lufties wrote: »

With Latvia now in the ever increasing club they call the EZ, I wonder what the real agenda is. It was supposedly created to prevent wars, but it would be naive to think that now though. The cynic in me would say its a tool used to exploit countries, but its hard to decipher since we are bombarded with enough propaganda and spin on a daily basis to make your head spin. One thing is for sure, the idea of unelected figures in Brussels calling the shots in affecting others lives, is indeed a worrying factor for the future.

Are you talking about the EZ (common currency) or the EU in general?

JayoHatesMayo

The majority of Latvians are against joining the Euro. But sure, when did that ever bother the politicians.

http://euobserver.com/tickers/122600

listermint

JayoHatesMayo wrote: »

The majority of Latvians are against joining the Euro. But sure, when did that ever bother the politicians.

http://euobserver.com/tickers/122600

Did they have a vote on it ?




Who won ?

JacquesDeLad

If small countries remained completely independent then they'd be at risk of exploitation by countries like Russia and China wouldn't they?

Ukraine is much larger than Latvia but it has fewer economic choices because it currently stands alone. If anything Ukraine is not in control of it's own destiny anymore on the other hand if Latvia doesn't like the EU or the Euro it can leave.

Lando Griffin

As someone from a farming background I couldnt fault the EU mainly does goid for us except for the turf cutting; but sure that wont last long anyway a few bags of turf to the local seargent.

Phoebas

listermint wrote: »

Did they have a vote on it ?




Who won ?

They did have a vote on it - Euro adoption was a central condition of their EU entry which they voted for.
Naturally enough, given the recent crisis, they've being having second thoughts and they've been allowed to delay adoption a number of times.

Thespoofer

HughMann wrote: »

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

Explain ' harmonise ' please.

catallus

The Eurozone is a conspiracy by the owners of the means of production against the workers! Exploitation of labour, divergence of energy to the demands of the elites! Down with this sort of thing!

Seriously though, there is a serious democratic deficit in the current EU set-up; these guys are hiding in plain sight; even a small bit of investigation through the web shows a scary organisation of educated man-power working towards a unified EU-army; check out twitter if you're interested; search for EU Defense (sic) and check out the inter-connection of accounts (followed/followers); there is a very real super-structure involved above the EU/Eurozone which is setting itself up for joining the USKN. There's no secrets being kept from us in relation to any of this.

biko

Brussels governing Europe?
Lol, they can't even govern Belgium

The world record for a democracy going without an elected government is held by Belgium, which went 589 days in 2010-11 because the opposing Flemish and Walloons were unable to agree on policy issues and form a governing coalition following national elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/10/01/589-days-with-no-elected-government-what-happened-in-belgium/

And as the old saying goes:
It's very far from here to Brussels - but even further from Brussels to here..

SmurfX

lufties wrote: »

Oh yea because it has been such a success thus far? Take a look around you.

jacksie66 wrote: »

The Euro secure? My bollix. The useless bastards in Brussels spent their time dictating to other countries about how they should run themselves...

NuckingFacker wrote: »

You should write Euro propaganda for a living- that's ^ very slick!

Oh, you do? Oh, right, grand so. Don't mind me.

BMJD wrote: »

Happy new year Enda!

Thespoofer wrote: »

Explain ' harmonise ' please.

The butthurt at an explanation of the actual "agenda" is delightful to watch from those who just want to poke pitchforks at the "system".

Agricola

Ze German's tried the iron fist takeover twice and lost. This is the silk glove attempt.

SmurfX

Agricola wrote: »

Ze German's tried the iron fist takeover twice and lost. This is the silk glove attempt.

They run a tight ship economically, would it really be something people fear considering we're already speaking a foreign tongue from another countries hostile takeover and have shown a general inability to manage ourselves competently?

seano12

The Goal of the EUSSR is

To create a bureaucratic centralised facist dictatorship to dismantle Christian Europe through cultural marxism

If you disagree you need to use your head for more than a hat-rack

Nodin

Agricola wrote: »

Ze German's tried the iron fist takeover twice and lost. This is the silk glove attempt.

More a lubricated rubber glove.


(I've seen their movies).

jacksie66

jacksie66 wrote: »

A federal union..
The USE...

The USELESS more like, but it appears to be an attempt to recreate one of the great empires of the past, the Roman empire with Brussels Berlin at the heart of it instead of Rome.

Maybe we should call it the Berlinan empire.

Nodin

seano12 wrote: »

The Goal of the EUSSR is

To create a bureaucratic centralised facist dictatorship to dismantle Christian Europe through cultural marxism

If you disagree you need to use your head for more than a hat-rack

...like a resting place for a shiny metallic hat, for instance.

Call Me Jimmy

It's all about the NWA

RobbieTheRobber

seano12 wrote: »

The Goal of the EUSSR is

To create a bureaucratic centralised facist dictatorship to dismantle Christian Europe through cultural marxism

If you disagree you need to use your head for more than a hat-rack

We can only wish that the EU was going to dismantle christian influence in Europe, but isn't the biggest political grouping in the EU a bunch of conservative christian democrats?


http://www.eppgroup.eu/menu/about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party_(European_Parliament_group)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament

LOSTfan57

Its Pinky and the Brains latest plan to take over the world

seano12

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

We can only wish that the EU was going to dismantle christian influence in Europe, but isn't the biggest political grouping in the EU a bunch of conservative christian democrats?


http://www.eppgroup.eu/menu/about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party_(European_Parliament_group)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament

Look at Muslim demographics in Scandinavia Europe is in the process of divide and conquer

RobbieTheRobber

seano12 wrote: »

Look at Muslim demographics in Scandinavia Europe is in the process of divide and conquer

I have reread this a few times and still haven't a clue what you are talking about!

seano12

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I have reread this a few times and still haven't a clue what you are talking about!

Barosso and the commies want to destroy Europe through Islamic immigration, make sense now?

Phoebas

seano12 wrote: »

Barosso and the commies want to destroy Europe through Islamic immigration, make sense now?

None of your posts on this thread make sense.

LOSTfan57

seano12 wrote: »

Barosso and the commies want to destroy Europe through Islamic immigration, make sense now?

Did you enjoy reading Anders Breiviks journal?

RobbieTheRobber

seano12 wrote: »

Barosso and the commies want to destroy Europe through Islamic immigration, make sense now?

Oh noes! The muslim commies is coming is they? :D

Annasopra

seano12 wrote: »

The Goal of the EUSSR is

To create a bureaucratic centralised facist dictatorship to dismantle Christian Europe through cultural marxism

If you disagree you need to use your head for more than a hat-rack

To hang the tinfoil?

Annasopra

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Oh noes! The muslim commies is coming is they? :D

They invaded Great Britain today

DazMarz

I for one welcome our new insect overlords...

Nodin

seano12 wrote: »

Look at Muslim demographics in Scandinavia Europe is in the process of divide and conquer

EU = Muslims. This is good. Do go on.

(Strictly speaking the Eurozone refers to states where they use the Euro, and Sweden, Denmark don't, but we won't quibble).

seano12 wrote:

Barosso and the commies want to destroy Europe through Islamic immigration, make
sense now?

Why do they want to "destroy Europe"?

My name is URL

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

We can only wish that the EU was going to dismantle christian influence in Europe, but isn't the biggest political grouping in the EU a bunch of conservative christian democrats?


http://www.eppgroup.eu/menu/about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party_(European_Parliament_group)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_groups_of_the_European_Parliament

Sure the fecking EU flag is based on christian symbolism

The flag's designer, Arsène Heitz, has acknowledged that the Book of Revelation (which is where the twelve-star halo of the Queen of Heaven was first mentioned) helped to inspire him. Revelation 12:1 is cited to explain the symbolism: "A great sign appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars" (a crown of stars can be interpreted as a "Crown of Immortality"). It has been noted that the date the flag was adopted, 8 December 1955, coincided with the Catholic Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, a feast decreed in 1854 by Pope Pius IX

riffmongous

seano12 wrote: »

The Goal of the EUSSR is

To create a bureaucratic centralised facist dictatorship to dismantle Christian Europe through cultural marxism

If you disagree you need to use your head for more than a hat-rack

I think I saw a documentary about them once that was pretty interesting

link

1st dalkey dalkey

I think it is fair to say that it all started out as an honest effort to avoid future conflict in Europe. The conflicts being very recent and real to many involved initially.
That said, I worry that it has wandered off it's initial path. Have we created a Goliath that we can no longer control?
I worry about re-runs of referenda, or other vote results not in keeping with the 'agenda'.
Real democratic systems accept the results of referenda or elections. They either change the proposals or wait at least a government term to re-run the original proposals, in the hope that public opinion will have changed in the interim.

It is this type of action (the determined driving of the agenda despite the resistance), which drives all the conspiracy theories.

In a way, this recession may be a blessing in disguise for the future of the EU. It really needed to stop and take stock of where it was going and how to get there, or indeed whether that destination was a place the members, individually, wanted to go. Most joined a more simple market based club. It has morphed into something else entirely.

conorhal

HughMann wrote: »

The euro is a tool to harmonise Europe and enable easier trading along with a strenghtened, secured currency to compete with the likes of the dollar. A naive conspiracy post like this is laughable, you're going to start talking about the illuminati and a one world government next.

Eh, It's not like they don't admit it. A closer political and economic union and the ultimate creation of a USE is the stated aim of many EU commission and parlimentary members and architects of past treaties.
The Euro is one of the planks of this stated ambition. A poorly thought out one, as became obvious during the economic crisis and the bubble that proceeded it.
There is a great line in Band of Brothers when one of the soldiers has his boots blown up and another soldier offers to scavange him a pair. When asked what size he wears, he dryly replies, 'size 9, just like everybody else.
Well a size nine economy for everybody has been a disaster and could never have worked without full political federal union, akin to that of the US (such common currancies have actually been tried before and ended in failure), it it has been evident that the EU at least have not wasted a good crisis as their demands for more economic control intensify. They see only one destination on this road and intend to erode the nation state by degree, because if people were ultimated asked, do you want a USE? The resounding answer would be no. So a slow erosion of national power has been the course they have set out on to bind the nations of Europe in a deathgrip from which it will be impossible to disentangle themselves from without suffering enormous economic damage.
We should get out now before it's too late.

seano12

Wait until you become minorities in your own cities and towns then you might come to the realisation that the E.U. does not benefit Ireland