Russian Blasts: Did Saudi Arabia unleash their dogs over Syria?

stuar

After the suicide bombings in Russia the past couple of days I was wondering if it were connected to Russia's support of Syrian president Assad, I came across an article in "The Telegraph" which says there was a secret meeting between Putin and Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan.
Bandar supposedly offered Russia oil and gas deals if it stopped supporting Assad, with veiled threats if it didn't, Russia refused the offer and two suicide bombings occured.

I'll quote some of the article:

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria
Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

"We understand Russia’s great interest in the oil and gas in the Mediterranean from Israel to Cyprus. And we understand the importance of the Russian gas pipeline to Europe. We are not interested in competing with that. We can cooperate in this area,” he said, purporting to speak with the full backing of the US.

The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off.

The Putin-Bandar meeting was stormy, replete with warnings of a “dramatic turn” in Syria. Mr Putin was unmoved by the Saudi offer, though western pressure has escalated since then. “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters,” he said, referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.

Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch. Events are unfolding exactly as he foretold.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

So if the Saudi's control the Chechens and can turn them "on and off", would it be possible that Saudi Arabia were ultimitately the one's behind the suicide bombings as a warning of what could come at the winter olympics in February if Russia doesn't stop supporting Assad?

On another note, if Saudi Arabia were behind it I think they're making a big mistake messing with Russia, I remember reading something about Russia planning to nuke Saudi Arabia a few months ago.........

Happy 2014 everybody!

Here's a few more links on the subject:

Saudi Arabia and CIA Behind Terror Bombings in Southern Russia?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/saudi-arabia-and-cia-behind-terror-bombings-in-southern-russia/5363184

The Russian-Saudi Showdown at Sochi
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/12/31/the-russian-saudi-showdown-at-sochi/

Terrorism and the Russian Olympics
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/terrorism_and_the_russian_olympics.html

Meet Saudi Arabia's Bandar bin Sultan: The Puppetmaster Behind The Syrian War
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-27/meet-saudi-arabias-bandar-bin-sultan-puppetmaster-behind-syrian-war

Russian President, Saudi Spy Chief Discussed Syria, Egypt
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html#ixzz2p4jqNm3k

Terrorists Declare War on Russia. Will Russia Respond?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/no_author/whos-behind-the-terrorist-attacks-in-russia/

Putin Orders Saudi Arabia “Destroyed” After Volgograd Terror Strikes
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/12/putin-orders-saudi-arabia-destroyed-after-volgograd-terror-strikes/

Escalation: Vladimir Putin Reportedly Threatens Saudi Arabia With Massive Counter-Strike
August 29th, 2013
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/escalation-vladimir-putin-reportedly-threatens-saudi-arabia-with-massive-counter-strike_082013

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin-orders-massive-strike-against-saudi-arabia-if-west-attacks-syria/

14:24 GMT: The Russia Foreign Ministry likened the Volgograd bombing to “terrorist attacks” in the US, Syria or elsewhere, organized by groups with the “same motivator”, and vowed not to retreat.
http://rt.com/news/volgograd-bus-blast-updates-958/

Torakx

Thanks for the info.
I am not well read in this area, but on the larger scale of things, could this be a ploy by the Russians to do exactly what the Americans did with the 9/11 attacks?
If it worked for them....

Plus is wasn't very secret meetings if I'm reading about it now. I didn't even know about the attacks in Russia until right now.
But since the "secret" talks reached the mainstream media, I would think there is a reason they did. Since the mainstream media is nearly 100% a tool of propoganda and manipulation I have to ask what it is they are trying to manipulate with this news of secret meetings.
I'm guessing an alibi or something for future events.

stuar

Torakx wrote: »

Thanks for the info.
I am not well read in this area, but on the larger scale of things, could this be a ploy by the Russians to do exactly what the Americans did with the 9/11 attacks?
If it worked for them....

Plus is wasn't very secret meetings if I'm reading about it now. I didn't even know about the attacks in Russia until right now.
But since the "secret" talks reached the mainstream media, I would think there is a reason they did. Since the mainstream media is nearly 100% a tool of propoganda and manipulation I have to ask what it is they are trying to manipulate with this news of secret meetings.
I'm guessing an alibi or something for future events.

Torakx my friend I don't really know??, the meeting was initiated by the liver eater's sponsors, then leaked by Russian sources, I could speculate but without proper info that I didn't really have time to search for between my drinking spree's and gluttony I really don't know.

To be continued....................

Stinicker

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1728.htm
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/

Personally I hope Putin and Russia does flex her military might and Nuke Saudi Arabia back to the stone-age. The Wahhabis are a great threat to the west and have held the West to ransom for far too long with their oil, all they spread is terror and fundamental islam.

If Iraq was a war to secure oil supply, then Russia - Saudi will be a war over marketshare. The USA will ultimately fail to defend Saudi as it would be MAD to engage Russia in this. Russia has nukes and the Saudi's don't but they are desperately trying to get some from Pakistan. Now really is the time for Russia to strike the Saudis and time will tell what really will happen. I'd hope for peace but at the same time I would be glad to see rid of the Saudi's and the way they treat women and foreign workers.

Tzar Chasm

the saudis have Mecca, thatswhy any atack on them would be difficult.

I'm not a very devout Catholic by any stretch of the imagination but I would take a rather dim view of an invasion of the Vatican, I presume the same would be true for even the most lapsed muslim regards Mecca.

shanered

The ould Mecca shield, beats any missile defenses system! ;-)

Brown Bomber

Really good thread. There is no Saudi Arabia without the US. The Saudis just provide a buffer for the purposes of plausible deniability between the CIA and their "jihadi" deathsquads. Prince Bandar Bush was just a bagman for the US during Iran-Contra and that is all that he is now.

When he has outlived his use he will probably be "Sadammed". While this could be a Gladio-style operation I would expect the assault through destabilisation on Russia to be through other CIA fronts like NED and USAID pumping money into fake democracy movements.

old_aussie

So Russia and the West have cut a deal?

The West takes out Syria?

Russia takes out saudia arabia?

A bit of "oneupmanship" or a bit of "wecanworktogether" to fix the ME

Tzar Chasm

that scenario leaves us with an even more brazen israel, Iran in serious defensive mindset probably restarting its nuclear weapons program and a likely humanitarian crisis spilling over into europe borders.

Europe becomes the big loser there, Russia and the US maintain their status quo but expend a lot of resoursces and the winner is China who now have 3 weakened rivals with minimal effort on their part.

Khomeini

Saudi Arabia basically create Wahhabi groups. Their alliance with Israel in Syria just shows how desperate they are to overthrow President Assad.

An interesting revelation before the attack in Russia was this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

President Putin has stood by Assad. The fact that so-called 'Prince' Bandar allegedly threatened President Putin with a Chechen attack is something to look at too.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/component/content/article/113184

stuar

Russia hunts suspects after car shootings in Stavropol
Police in Russia are hunting suspected Islamist militants after five people were found shot dead in cars, less than a month before the Sochi Olympics.

The victims, who include taxi drivers, were left inside four cars in the southern region of Stavropol. Two of the vehicles were booby-trapped

In another development, Russian media say a woman has been arrested on a bus in Stavropol in possession of a suicide bomb belt. There has been no official confirmation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25664348

Russia launches counterterror probe after bodies, explosives found near Sochi
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/01/09/russia-launches-anti-terror-investigation-after-bodies-explosives-found-near/

Russia's southern Stavropol region on alert after bodies found

Six bodies and cars rigged with explosive devices discovered, heightening security concerns in runup to Sochi Olympics
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/09/russia-southern-stavropol-alert-bodies-found

Russian press calls for crackdown on terror
Kirill Benediktov, writing in Izvestiya, expects further attempted terrorist attacks in Russia until the Olympics in Sochi are over, and believes the attacks are intended to discredit Russia.

''There is no doubt that the Salafist regimes of the Persian Gulf, primarily Saudi Arabia, have been supporting Islamic terrorism in Russia… Russia is now strong enough to afford unfriendly measures towards the regimes that have been using the Wahhabi fifth column in order to destabilise the situation in our country,'' says Benediktov.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25547956

I believe these attacks will continue or at least attemted until and during the Sochi Olympics, Putin didn't take kindly to the veiled threats from Saudi Arabia and now the bombings and attempted bombings have occured and will most likely continue, I feel Saudi Arabia have gotton too big for their boots and Riyadh will sooner or later pay, maybe Putin has postponed an attack until after the Olympics?

Russia supposedly said they would Nuke Saudia arabia if the west attacked Syria.

Then it was reported in Fars that Putin has ordered Saudi Arabia Destroyed.

So if the two above stories are true I'd imagine Saudi Arabia are sitting on a time bomb, I don't think Putin would hesitate to flex his muscles to save face againgst the house of saud or anybody else for that matter, Iran, China, Syria, Hezbollah and others would move with Russia.

Could get really nasty, Prince Bandar may have bitten off more than he or his regime can chew, although the mans mental state has been in question for some time.

Brown Bomber

Stuar, there is a series of interviews on the Corbett Report with Sibel Edmonds (FBI Whistleblower) that goes into depth on some of the history behind this, NATO/CIA/Jihadis vs Russia- the series is called Gladio mk II or something like that, you should check it out.


Worth pointing out though that the Chechen fight for independence is legitimate even if their cause has been spoiled by outside actors from Washington and the Gulf.

stuar

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Stuar, there is a series of interviews on the Corbett Report with Sibel Edmonds (FBI Whistleblower) that goes into depth on some of the history behind this, NATO/CIA/Jihadis vs Russia- the series is called Gladio mk II or something like that, you should check it out.


Worth pointing out though that the Chechen fight for independence is legitimate even if their cause has been spoiled by outside actors from Washington and the Gulf.

Hiya Bomber, Happy New Year to you and yours!

Yea I also believe the Chechen cause is legitimate.

I have that series you mentioned, I'll watch them later when I get a chance, cheers.

http://www.corbettreport.com/?s=gladio