Vauxhaul advertised as Opel

mloc123

On carzone, it is pretty annoying that dealers are putting up Vauxhauls as Opels.

Am I the only person that would prefer an Opel... do people care?

Engine No.9

mloc123 wrote: »

On carzone, it is pretty annoying that dealers are putting up Vauxhauls as Opels.

Am I the only person that would prefer an Opel... do people care?

I'd probably prefer Opel over Vauxhall just as a pure point of principle but I wouldn't discount them when buying second hand. I would definitely prefer for the car to be advertised as a Vauxhall if thats what it is, tho.

grainnewhale

mloc123 wrote: »

On carzone, it is pretty annoying that dealers are putting up Vauxhauls as Opels.

Am I the only person that would prefer an Opel... do people care?

this is what is referred to as a "first world problem"

ninty9er

I've said it here before, but I know people who wholesale cars to the trade, with access to the UK and Ireland market. The only brand they don't bring from the UK stock available is Vauxhall. The dealers don't want them because "they just don't work here". You would have no choice but to discount a Vauxhall if you wanted to keep interest in what you're selling.

ABajaninCork

I'd sooner take a Vauxhall over Opel any day. At least the car would be better spec'd and probably better looked after...

ninty9er

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I'd sooner take a Vauxhall over Opel any day. At least the car would be better spec'd and probably better looked after...

Vauxhall spec can be very poor, Opels aren't particularly poorly specced here anyways.

ABajaninCork

ninty9er wrote: »

Vauxhall spec can be very poor, Opels aren't particularly poorly specced here anyways.

We'll agree to disagree then. Personally, I find the Irish models very poorly spec'd.

mloc123

ninty9er wrote: »

I've said it here before, but I know people who wholesale cars to the trade, with access to the UK and Ireland market. The only brand they don't bring from the UK stock available is Vauxhall. The dealers don't want them because "they just don't work here". You would have no choice but to discount a Vauxhall if you wanted to keep interest in what you're selling.

Yup, the Vauxhauls advertised are priced quite a bit lower

grainnewhale

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I'd sooner take a Vauxhall over Opel any day. At least the car would be better spec'd and probably better looked after...

that would have been the case in years gone by. don't think its valid today.

KwackerJack

Yea your dead right.....It's like I absolutely love Audi but I hate VW and Skoda!!

Banjoxed

Opel vs Vauxhall is Badge Engineering, unless I'm missing something other than snobbery against UK branding on European GM's?

ninty9er

KwackerJack wrote: »

Yea your dead right.....It's like I absolutely love Audi but I hate VW and Skoda!!

Not particularly comparable. What is comparable it the Aygo/C1/107. Note that the Aygo commands a premium due to its badge.

Leonard Hofstadter

ABajaninCork wrote: »

We'll agree to disagree then. Personally, I find the Irish models very poorly spec'd.

In general I would agree, most Paddy spec cars are terrible for spec, and have the cheapest and/or least powerful possible engine, but most Opels are pretty good for spec. As a UK resident I've seen more than my fair share of poverty spec Vauxhalls. Sure you'll see some decent spec ones (and in fairness they are more inclined to buy them with decent sized engines), but there's plenty of low spec rubbish over there as well. Toyotas and Fords are a lot better over in Britain, though.

Cee-Jay-Cee

They're the same car so why would it matter? In fact vauxhalls are generally better spec'd than the poverty stricken Opel models sold here. I'd take a vauxhall over an Opel but it would be a cold day in hell before I'd ever buy either, they're both nasty pieces of scrap.

KwackerJack

ninty9er wrote: »

Not particularly comparable. What is comparable it the Aygo/C1/107. Note that the Aygo commands a premium due to its badge.

OK styling,price and performance depending on model are different.....take all the parts off, spread them out and ask a panel to pick out each individual car!

There all marked VW/Audi..............long time choosing.

Same as Opel and Vauxhaul

MuppetCheck

ABajaninCork wrote: »

We'll agree to disagree then. Personally, I find the Irish models very poorly spec'd.

Comparing equivalent specs they are actually the same or better. My car is of a higher standard spec than the UK equivalent (both SRI) but the English car buyers are more likely to spend a few quid on extras rather than buying the basic model of the next car up. There are some spec levels we don't get here too. Otherwise the only difference is badge.

If there was a saving to be had the Vauxhall could be the better long term buy.

bazz26

They are the exact same car these days, built in the same factories, in fact if you removed the Vauxhall badge from the grill you will see the Opel imprint underneath it.

People prefer Opel because they can associate with the Opel brand, Jack Charlton era and all that, so this is why the Vauxhall version would be advertised as an Opel to make the advert more appealing. The important thing here is that Vauxhalls generally are cheaper to buy in the UK so someone selling an import here probably paid a lot less than the same Opel version here so should be asking less for it.

Stinicker

British people wouldn't buy the German Opel after World War II so GM started selling Opels as Vauxhalls instead.

I'd prefer the Vauxhall brand, my parents had two UK imports a Nova (Rebadged Corsa) back in the Nineties and a Cavalier (Rebadged Vectra) for most of the noughties and both cars were of superb reliability and absolute misers on Diesel, the 1.5L Vauxhall Nova Isuzu TurboDiesel routinely returning over 70mpg (1990 car) and the 1.7L TurboDiesel Vauxhall Cavalier (1994 car) with the Isuzu Diesel Engine doing 55+ mpg and often near 60mpg. I have good time for the Vauxhall and Opel brand and in the nineties Opel/Vauxhall Diesel were the best Diesels you could buy before VAG cornered the market.

Toyotafanboi

the first thing i did when i got my vectra c import was to change the vauxhall badges to opel ones. not that i was being a brand snob, i just think the vauxhall emblem is hideous.

i had some grief then from know it alls when it came time to sell it. "you have it advertised as a vauxhall and its got opel badges? must have been a write off at some stage" etc etc... despite clearly explaining it in the ad. how and ever

colm_mcm

If I was selling a vauxhall on carzone I'd list it under opel for the search thing but state in the ad that its vauxhall. A big percentage wouldn't think to search under both manufacturers on carzone.

Banjoxed

colm_mcm wrote: »

If I was selling a vauxhall on carzone I'd list it under opel for the search thing but state in the ad that its vauxhall. A big percentage wouldn't think to search under both manufacturers on carzone.

Proof that a big percentage of people are dumber than rocks. At least back in the day pre $ky Joe Average watched UTV and Channel 4 without ROI adverts so had an idea that a Vauxhall was a badge engineered Opel *shakes walking stick*.

corktina

Stinicker wrote: »

British people wouldn't buy the German Opel after World War II so GM started selling Opels as Vauxhalls instead.

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what nonsense. The Opel brand was never strong in the UK when they and Vauxhall were seperate companies with seperate models.
Vauxhall however were massive in the UK long before the WW2.
At some stage around 1980 give or take a decade,both companies , at this stage owned by GM were merged and started making the same models with their own badges.

It's obviously not true that the British wouldn't buy German cars or else there would have been no Beetles on the road there!

ThisRegard

mloc123 wrote: »

Am I the only person that would prefer an Opel... do people care?

Some people do for some strange reason, which makes no sense if it's a modern model.