Little old lady a racist?

MonsterCookie

I was waiting in line at the checkout in Tesco recently. Little old lady in front of me paid for her groceries in cash and was holding her hand out for the change.

As the cashier gave her the change, she counted it meticulously, querying the value of some of the coins as old people do some times. She then said to the cashier, with a cheeky grin and a wink "I have to watch my change with you lot..."

In light of the fact that the young male cashier was clearly of west African origins, I was taken aback...and so was he. I felt for the poor fella, but the old dear thought this was hilarious.

I immediately put this down to good old fashioned racism, and only later that evening thought that she could have been referring to Tesco staff in general, rather than black people...and maybe I was wrong to assume she being racist...on reflection I'm pretty sure she was referring to skin colour.

TJ Mackie

All old people are racist. It's completely acceptable. I can't wait until I'm that age so I can let loose on every minority I've ever hated.

Sunnyisland

Grandma got run over by a reindeer...

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MonsterCookie wrote: »

I was waiting in line at the checkout in Tesco recently. Little old lady in front of me paid for her groceries in cash and was holding her hand out for the change.

As the cashier gave her the change, she counted it meticulously, querying the value of some of the coins as old people do some times. She then said to the cashier, with a cheeky grin and a wink "I have to watch my change with you lot..."

In light of the fact that the young male cashier was clearly of west African origins, I was taken aback...and so was he. I felt for the poor fella, but the old dear thought this was hilarious.

I immediately put this down to good old fashioned racism, and only later that evening thought that she could have been referring to Tesco staff in general, rather than black people...and maybe I was wrong to assume she being racist...on reflection I'm pretty sure she was referring to skin colour.

All I know is the funniest situation is if she meant Tesco workers but ended up looking like the sweet old lady from father Ted who turns out to despise the Greeks.

NuckingFacker

O.A.P in being un-pc shocker. Anyone notice Phil from Duck Dynastys travails across the big pond? He referred unflatteringly to gays... in fairness, if my old lad ever managed to give his opinions on pretty much any subject under the sun, he'd have been dragged away in handcuffs. The "older generation" tended to have missed the whole "p.c" thing slightly..

FreshKnickers

People are racist until proven otherwise.

arse..biscuits

I'm offended by everything

PizzamanIRL

How'd you know he was from the Wesht?

GalwayGuy2

Meh, she's old.

As long as she's not screaming racist slurs at people, it's grand.

stefan idiot jones

MonsterCookie wrote: »

I was waiting in line at the checkout in Tesco recently. Little old lady in front of me paid for her groceries in cash and was holding her hand out for the change.

As the cashier gave her the change, she counted it meticulously, querying the value of some of the coins as old people do some times. She then said to the cashier, with a cheeky grin and a wink "I have to watch my change with you lot..."

In light of the fact that the young male cashier was clearly of west African origins, I was taken aback...and so was he. I felt for the poor fella, but the old dear thought this was hilarious.

I immediately put this down to good old fashioned racism, and only later that evening thought that she could have been referring to Tesco staff in general, rather than black people...and maybe I was wrong to assume she being racist...on reflection I'm pretty sure she was referring to skin colour.

I was only talking to an elderly Australian lady yesterday, and racism is alive and well in the older generations alright.

They still haven't forgiven the Japanese for the atrocities the committed to family members during the battle for the Coral Sea in the second world war.

Now she is worrying about the country in twenty years time with all the muslims arriving and buying up church blocks.

Nodin

MonsterCookie wrote: »

I was waiting in line at the checkout in Tesco recently. Little old lady in front of me paid for her groceries in cash and was holding her hand out for the change.

As the cashier gave her the change, she counted it meticulously, querying the value of some of the coins as old people do some times. She then said to the cashier, with a cheeky grin and a wink "I have to watch my change with you lot..."

In light of the fact that the young male cashier was clearly of west African origins, I was taken aback...and so was he. I felt for the poor fella, but the old dear thought this was hilarious.

I immediately put this down to good old fashioned racism, and only later that evening thought that she could have been referring to Tesco staff in general, rather than black people...and maybe I was wrong to assume she being racist...on reflection I'm pretty sure she was referring to skin colour.

Might have meant Tescos, might just have been taking the piss....

Riamfada

Are you sure she didn't mean telco workers and you jumped to the conclusion that she meant the blacks because you are subconsciously racist?

Lando Griffin

Did she have any pork products or Alcohol?

PizzamanIRL

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Meh, she's old.

As long as she's not screaming racist slurs at people, it's grand.

Being old is no excuse for being racist.

Mint Aero

No actually Sounds like a bitta good ol' Irish banter and she's sound enough to include a foreigner in it ergo she's anything but racist but you enjoy your xmas op happy in the knowledge that she must be racist :rolleyes:

maggiepip

Theres a strong chance she was just referring to cashier staff in general - which would mean shes being falsely accused of racism.

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Riamfada wrote: »

Are you sure she didn't mean telco workers and you jumped to the conclusion that she meant the blacks because you are subconsciously racist?

The black guy on the till must have been subconsciously racist too, so.

hfallada

I work retail and Im as Irish as you get. But people can still think they treat you like ****, because you are working a low-paid job and therefore you are stupid( I have a IQ which is in the top 2%, but customer still treat me like Im intellectually challenged). I had a customer shouting at me today, because I over charged him as it said €29 on his receipt. But was the amount he should have received in change.

If Bill Gates worked in Lidl, people would treat him like he was dumb

Sir Osis of Liver.

mikemac1

Well she is right to be careful, you said so yourself

Yet again Tesco Ballyfermot messed up for me and scanned two products twice. Since it's Christmas Eve I had to customer service and queue for aaaaaaaaages. And then open my bag for inspection to prove I was paying for something I never got.

The lady is watching alright OP. Watching for staff asleep on the job

NuckingFacker

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Being old is no excuse for being racist.

It is. It's also an excuse for being rude, pushy, smelling slightly of wee and not running much, unless there's a really good sale or a fire. Old people have a pass on loads of things. Even on busses. It's the glory of being old. I'm going to turn into Alf garnet when i get older..everyone does..even women. I believe it's because you know you're about to pop your clogs and no longer give a damn what people think of you. "Fcuking Liberty.."

mitosis

In fairness OP, you're the one who brought race into it.

enfant terrible

What's wrong with being racist

Mickey H

Riamfada wrote: »

Are you sure she didn't mean telco workers and you jumped to the conclusion that she meant the blacks because you are subconsciously racist?

Are you still talking about Tesco staff?

Or have you moved onto Phone Companies?

MonsterCookie

mitosis wrote: »

In fairness OP, you're the one who brought race into it.

Correct, your point being?

maryk123

When I started reading it I straight thought "you lot" as tesco.

Phoebas

NuckingFacker wrote: »

It is. It's also an excuse for being rude, pushy, smelling slightly of wee and not running much, unless there's a really good sale or a fire. Old people have a pass on loads of things. Even on busses. It's the glory of being old. I'm going to turn into Alf garnet when i get older..everyone does..even women. I believe it's because you know you're about to pop your clogs and no longer give a damn what people think of you. "Fcuking Liberty.."

So your saying that you are racist now and that you'd be quite happy to smell of wee etc except that right now you hide it only because you care what people would think?

I've seen people mention the Duck Dynasty on here. What the heck is it? The reign of ducks?

Temptamperu

Jaysus, my granny was an awful racist, Satan possess her soul.

mitosis

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Correct, your point being?

.. being you have no reason to accuse another person of being racist than your own perceptions.

El Horseboxo

As a person of color I'd be more suspicious of the one who jumped to the race conclusion. I'd have just assumed she meant my position as a cashier. Too many people are waiting to be offended these days.

MonsterCookie

mitosis wrote: »

.. being you have no reason to accuse another person of being racist than your own perceptions.

Wow, that's pretty clever of you. Maybe even too clever.

So you're telling me I can't use my judgement? It's incorrect to say I had no reason, and I didn't exactly accuse her of anything at all...I simply shared here on AH the experience.

NuckingFacker

Phoebas wrote: »

So your saying that you are racist now and that you'd be quite happy to smell of wee etc except that right now you hide it only because you care what people would think?

raaargh. Go gettim Tiger.

Sunglasses Ron

MonsterCookie wrote: »

As the cashier gave her the change, she counted it meticulously, querying the value of some of the coins as old people do some times. She then said to the cashier, with a cheeky grin and a wink "I have to watch my change with you lot...".

I have to be honest, any story a mate tells me about a personal experience involving a dodgy taxi driver, the driver is nearly always foreign. Not knowing a main road/ destination, demanding the exact fare (demanding 10.10 instead of a tenner note- established taxi etiquette has always been to round down or up for both driver and customer), attempting to pass off a dodge amount of change when they know the customer is drunk, "forgetting" to put on the meter and when arriving trying to ask you for what, in his opinion, the fare was roughly worth (always 3 or 4 quid above what it should have been worth, which usually earns them a prompt f'uck you from me and I instead give them a few quid less than the fare should be worth) in my life I have only had one dodgy native taxi man and I don't know how many foreign ones.It is at the stage whereby when a mate tells you "the driver last night did x y z" and you ask "foreign, was he?" and you are always right on the money. Most of them are grand but there are a disproportionate amount of cowboys amongst the foreign ones, and based on that I generally far prefer getting a local taxi man than a foreign one. It is not in the slightest racist, put simply, when the government is allowing people from countries with patchy record collecting of criminal records to enter a largely night time game you are going to get a fair few cowboys take advantage.

FreshKnickers

You forgot to say "I'm not racist, but..."

Hande hoche!

I would take her as directing it toward Tesco. For instance http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056589560

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Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

I have to be honest, any story a mate tells me about a personal experience involving a dodgy taxi driver, the driver is nearly always foreign. Not knowing a main road/ destination, demanding the exact fare (demanding 10.10 instead of a tenner note- established taxi etiquette has always been to round down or up for both driver and customer), attempting to pass off a dodge amount of change when they know the customer is drunk, "forgetting" to put on the meter and when arriving trying to ask you for what, in his opinion, the fare was roughly worth (always 3 or 4 quid above what it should have been worth, which usually earns them a prompt f'uck you from me and I instead give them a few quid less than the fare should be worth) in my life I have only had one dodgy native taxi man and I don't know how many foreign ones.It is at the stage whereby when a mate tells you "the driver last night did x y z" and you ask "foreign, was he?" and you are always right on the money. Most of them are grand but there are a disproportionate amount of cowboys amongst the foreign ones, and based on that I generally far prefer getting a local taxi man than a foreign one. It is not in the slightest racist, put simply, when the government is allowing people from countries with patchy record collecting of criminal records to enter a largely night time game you are going to get a fair few cowboys take advantage.

You must be ****ing joking. Every single bad experience I've had in a taxi involves an Irish driver looking to scam you, drive a stupid long way home, and invariably the journey comes with a free meandering racist diatribe about whatever is bothering them at the moment that they can conceivably blame on Nigerians.

vibe666

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zWdSxKYFo

Kudos to me for managing to correctly put a YouTube link up via my mobile. :pac:

Hande hoche!

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

You must be ****ing joking. Every single bad experience I've had in a taxi involves an Irish driver looking to scam you, drive a stupid long way home, and invariably the journey comes with a free meandering racist diatribe about whatever is bothering them at the moment that they can conceivably blame on Nigerians.

Any bad taxi journey I've been in, involves Biracial taxi drivers with dual citizenship.

Sunglasses Ron

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

You must be ****ing joking. Every single bad experience I've had in a taxi involves an Irish driver looking to scam you, drive a stupid long way home, and invariably the journey comes with a free meandering racist diatribe about whatever is bothering them at the moment that they can conceivably blame on Nigerians.

The only two negative experiences I have had with Irish drivers has been one lad who was steaming drunk and another who was, just simply, strange, scarily weird (his cab stank and all)

I couldn't start on the amount of dodgy foreign ones I have had, or have herd first hand accounts of. When coming from a country with haphazard criminal record keeping there really should be a rule whereby you must have a clean record in Ireland for x amount of years before getting a licence.

Sunglasses Ron

FreshKnickers wrote: »

You forgot to say "I'm not racist, but..."

Excuse me, what?

It is racist to recognise/ realise that virtually all negative experiences I have both heard of and personally had have involved a minority of ( a disproportionate minority at that) foreign drivers?

Is that a joke? Really, is it?

Realt Dearg Sec

"Sunglasses wrote:

When coming from a country with haphazard criminal record keeping

What on earth does that mean?

NuckingFacker

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Excuse me, what?

It is racist to recognise/ realise that virtually all negative experiences I have both heard of and personally had have involved a minority of ( a disproportionate minority at that) foreign drivers?

Is that a joke? Really, is it?

Foreign is a big old place tbf. I'm guessing you're referring to all the dodgy Italian taxi-drivers with their big sunglasses and love for pasta, swanning round ringsend? Or the Spaniards, with their bulls on the back seats, four pints of Sangria and a sombrero on, cruising the mean streets of Cabra?

Sunglasses Ron

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Foreign is a big old place tbf. I'm guessing you're referring to all the dodgy Italian taxi-drivers with their big sunglasses and love for pasta, swanning round ringsend? Or the Spaniards, with their bulls on the back seats, four pints of Sangria and a sombrero on, cruising the mean streets of Cabra?

Fair nuff, largely West African.

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

What on earth does that mean?

You know fully well what it means. Why are you asking?

Realt Dearg Sec

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

You know fully well what it means. Why are you asking?

I honestly haven't a clue what you meant. Criminal record keeping? Are you suggesting that there are countries that convict people of crimes but don't bother keeping track of who's been convicted of what? If that's what you're suggesting, then it doesn't warrant response. If not, then I need clarification. Despite your insistence that I know full well.

Phoebas

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

It is racist to recognise/ realise that virtually all negative experiences I have both heard of and personally had have involved a minority of ( a disproportionate minority at that) foreign drivers?

Confirmation bias maybe?

Henlars67

If I've learned anything from After Hours it's that everything and everyone is racist, except for those people who spend their lives getting offended on behalf of others.

sheesh

I think the fact that the op thought she was racist because she was old is ageism.

although I do remember 2 old wans at a bus stop giving out about 'Darkies' about 10 years ago.

downonthefarm

Good for her!!

MonsterCookie

sheesh wrote: »

I think the fact that the op thought she was racist because she was old is ageism.

although I do remember 2 old wans at a bus stop giving out about 'Darkies' about 10 years ago.

...not to mention sexism! Also, she was a little overweight so maybe that makes me fatist

Capt'n Midnight

Anyone remember the age old trick of leaving a can of beans or something near the till ? You assume the last person left it. But the cashier adds it to your bill , if you catch them they just go "oh thought it was yours" and if you don't then it's gone though the system won't cause any problems during stock taking and been paid for so they can take it home or get a refund on it.