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cosmowillie53

I have a few ceilings to paint and want some advice..
I have the first (watered down coat) on and am ready for the next one now.
I have a new bucket of Johnson's vinyl matt contract emulsion brilliant white ....is this paint suitable for the job and if so do I dilute the first coat and apply second coat full strength .
The ceilings are in bedrooms ,kitchen /living area.
Thanks for any info.

michael999999

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

I have a few ceilings to paint and want some advice..
I have the first (watered down coat) on and am ready for the next one now.
I have a new bucket of Johnson's vinyl matt contract emulsion brilliant white ....is this paint suitable for the job and if so do I dilute the first coat and apply second coat full strength .
The ceilings are in bedrooms ,kitchen /living area.
Thanks for any info.

Johnsons is brilliant paint.

Don't bother thinning out the second coat.

cosmowillie53

Thanks for reply.
Just to clarify will I apply the two coats full strength.
Thanks

michael999999

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

Thanks for reply.
Just to clarify will I apply the two coats full strength.
Thanks

Ya, that shouldn't cause you any trouble!

oisinbutler

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

I have a few ceilings to paint and want some advice..
I have the first (watered down coat) on and am ready for the next one now.
I have a new bucket of Johnson's vinyl matt contract emulsion brilliant white ....is this paint suitable for the job and if so do I dilute the first coat and apply second coat full strength .
The ceilings are in bedrooms ,kitchen /living area.
Thanks for any info.

You only need a watered down coat for fresh plaster, otherwise straight from the bucket. For the kitchen a soft sheen on the ceiling is advised.

fussyonion

Johnson's paint is fine.
Don't put any sheen paint on a ceiling because it will cause water droplets. Don't dilute the second coat; straight from the bucket.
If the ceilings are discoloured, put a drop of Polybond into the paint and stir well.

This advice was given to me, for you, directly from my Uncle who is a painter with 45 years experience.

oisinbutler

fussyonion wrote: »

Johnson's paint is fine.
Don't put any sheen paint on a ceiling because it will cause water droplets. Don't dilute the second coat; straight from the bucket.
If the ceilings are discoloured, put a drop of Polybond into the paint and stir well.

This advice was given to me, for you, directly from my Uncle who is a painter with 45 years experience.

http://www.johnstonespaint.com/paint-types/interior-walls-a-ceilings/kitchen-a-bathroom-emulsion.html

fussyonion

oisinbutler wrote: »

http://www.johnstonespaint.com/paint-types/interior-walls-a-ceilings/kitchen-a-bathroom-emulsion.html

Not gonna argue with a painter with that much experience, sorry.
He said it doesn't matter what's on the tin. He knows what he's talking about.
Are you a painter?

michael999999

fussyonion wrote: »

Johnson's paint is fine.
Don't put any sheen paint on a ceiling because it will cause water droplets. Don't dilute the second coat; straight from the bucket.
If the ceilings are discoloured, put a drop of Polybond into the paint and stir well.

This advice was given to me, for you, directly from my Uncle who is a painter with 45 years experience.

Do not put polybond in paint for interiors!

Polybond is for sealing concrete, why would you put it in paint?

And before you ask, yes I am a painter.

fussyonion

michael999999 wrote: »

Do not put polybond in paint for interiors!

Polybond is for sealing concrete, why would you put it in paint?

And before you ask, yes I am a painter.

It makes it waterproof, he says. It's an old tip, he's been doing it 45 years.
Anyway, not arguing..that's his advice.

michael999999

fussyonion wrote: »

It makes it waterproof, he says. It's an old tip, he's been doing it 45 years.
Anyway, not arguing..that's his advice.

Why do you want to make interior paint waterproof?

Don't you think dulux or johnsons would have put it in if it was necessary, pva is not meant to be used in paint!

oisinbutler

fussyonion wrote: »

Not gonna argue with a painter with that much experience, sorry.
He said it doesn't matter what's on the tin. He knows what he's talking about.
Are you a painter?

Yes. I'm a painter. Putting a soft sheen on a kitchen, bathroom ceiling is best practice. I don't mean to contradict your uncle but thats the way to do it. If he does it differently then fair enough.

fussyonion

michael999999 wrote: »

Why do you want to make interior paint waterproof?

Don't you think dulux or johnsons would have put it in if it was necessary, pva is not meant to be used in paint!

It's an old tip, just like a plasterer puts milk in his plaster and a brickie puts washing up liquid in his mortar.

My mistake regarding making the interior paint waterproof..I meant to say it's a tip for exterior paint, but you can use it for interior paint where there are brown marks such as nicotine.

Stella Virgo

fussyonion wrote: »

It's an old tip, just like a plasterer puts milk in his plaster and a brickie puts washing up liquid in his mortar.

My mistake regarding making the interior paint waterproof..I meant to say it's a tip for exterior paint, but you can use it for interior paint where there are brown marks such as nicotine.

sweet jebus.....that is one guaranteed way to ensure that your plaster will crack and fall off after about 5/6 years....just have a look at some "celtic tiger" houses and you will see what i mean......

fussyonion

Stella Virgo wrote: »

sweet jebus.....that is one guaranteed way to ensure that your plaster will crack and fall off after about 5/6 years....just have a look at some "celtic tiger" houses and you will see what i mean......

He says he's known brickies all his life and it's an old tip that's always seen them in good stead,
Think what you like.
Most of you lot are guys with probably 5-10 years experience. This guy is in the construction industry 45 years.

oisinbutler

fussyonion wrote: »

He says he's known brickies all his life and it's an old tip that's always seen them in good stead,
Think what you like.
Most of you lot are guys with probably 5-10 years experience. This guy is in the construction industry 45 years.

Doing it wrong for 45 so. Is there a chance you misunderstood your uncle?

fussyonion

oisinbutler wrote: »

Doing it wrong for 45 so. Is there a chance you misunderstood your uncle?

How long have you served your time for? And where?
(These are question directly from him; he's sitting beside me here)

oisinbutler

fussyonion wrote: »

It's an old tip, just like a plasterer puts milk in his plaster and a brickie puts washing up liquid in his mortar.

My mistake regarding making the interior paint waterproof..I meant to say it's a tip for exterior paint, but you can use it for interior paint where there are brown marks such as nicotine.

Where you have marks on the ceiling you clean them off with sugar soap. Unless its a stain in which case you use a stain block then paint over as normal. Polybond/Pva in the paint won't do anything.

michael999999

fussyonion wrote: »

It's an old tip, just like a plasterer puts milk in his plaster and a brickie puts washing up liquid in his mortar.

My mistake regarding making the interior paint waterproof..I meant to say it's a tip for exterior paint, but you can use it for interior paint where there are brown marks such as nicotine.

Jesus, that tells me everything I need to know!

Make sure he doesn't get confused and put plasticiser on he's cornflakes, or milk I'm the paint or there will be an awful mess!

Good luck!

michael999999

oisinbutler wrote: »

Where you have marks on the ceiling you clean them off with sugar soap. Unless its a stain in which case you use a stain block then paint over as normal. Polybond/Pva in the paint won't do anything.

BIN primer is excellent for covering stains or watermarks!

oisinbutler

michael999999 wrote: »

Jesus, that tells me everything I need to know!

Make sure he doesn't get confused and put plasticiser on he's cornflakes, or milk I'm the paint or there will be an awful mess!

Good luck!

Lmfao!

Maudi

fussyonion wrote: »

He says he's known brickies all his life and it's an old tip that's always seen them in good stead,
Think what you like.
Most of you lot are guys with probably 5-10 years experience. This guy is in the construction industry 45 years.

Im third generation plasterer and in 25/30 years plastering have never put milk in a plaster mix ..absolute guntering...gunterers or chancers as we call them will put washing up liquid in morter for bricks...

fussyonion

He says carry on what you're doing lads, that's why he's snowed under with work and has customers going back 40 years.
Young whippersnappers who think they know everything and you know nothing...I happen to agree with him.

oisinbutler

michael999999 wrote: »

BIN primer is excellent for covering stains or watermarks!

I agree, its good stuff

fussyonion

oisinbutler wrote: »

I agree, its good stuff

He also agrees it's good stuff.

Maudi

fussyonion wrote: »

He says he's known brickies all his life and it's an old tip that's always seen them in good stead,
Think what you like.
Most of you lot are guys with probably 5-10 years experience. This guy is in the construction industry 45 years.

Im third generation plasterer and in 25/30 years plastering have never put milk in a plaster mix ..absolute guntering...gunterers or chancers as we call them will put washing up liquid in morter for bricks...

oisinbutler

Maudi wrote: »

Im third generation plasterer and in 25/30 years plastering have never put milk in a plaster mix ..absolute guntering...gunterers or chancers as we call them will put washing up liquid in morter for bricks...

Says it all

Maudi

fussyonion wrote: »

He says carry on what you're doing lads, that's why he's snowed under with work and has customers going back 40 years.
Young whippersnappers who think they know everything and you know nothing...I happen to agree with him.

If I was him id put his name and no.up here...he will get loads more work.

Maudi

fussyonion wrote: »

He says carry on what you're doing lads, that's why he's snowed under with work and has customers going back 40 years.
Young whippersnappers who think they know everything and you know nothing...I happen to agree with him.

If I was him id put his name and no.up here...he will get loads more work.

Maudi

fussyonion wrote: »

He says carry on what you're doing lads, that's why he's snowed under with work and has customers going back 40 years.
Young whippersnappers who think they know everything and you know nothing...I happen to agree with him.

If I was him id put his name and no.up here...he will get loads more work.

fussyonion

Maudi wrote: »

If I was him id put his name and no.up here...he will get loads more work.

You've said that three times now?

irelandspurs

fussyonion wrote: »

It's an old tip, just like a plasterer puts milk in his plaster and a brickie puts washing up liquid in his mortar.

My mistake regarding making the interior paint waterproof..I meant to say it's a tip for exterior paint, but you can use it for interior paint where there are brown marks such as nicotine.

Lol :eek:

whupdedo

Every trades man has his own tricks that are tried and tested and work for them, a painter with over 40years experience probably has a few more tricks that worked for him time and time again, just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean they don't work, in my experience the older guys get around problems easier and cheaper because they have seen it all before