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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bailey99


    Dbu wrote: »
    I am a memebr of Kinsale, and i do see it as a pain in the a.s.
    Winter League is 10 holes, i personally switch off after the 10 counting holes are completed, so no point in playing more.:D
    Last year the league was 14 holes which was better imo.
    I personally know 9 guys leaving this year and i am undecided myself as to what to do as most are my friends.

    I know a lot of people who joined from Rafeen Creek are leaving as well. Some of the committee down there are something else by all accounts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Reganovski


    bailey99 wrote: »
    14 holes open at the weekend, the competition was a fourball playing off 14/18 handicaps. Myself and my partner had 37pts and didn't even get in the prizes. What won, was it another crazy score Reganovski?????

    Was it f**k! 41 pts, ridiculous. As for your comment 45 points not winning every week. Are u for real, during the summer I knew a fella who had 49 pts and didn't even get in the prizes. 51 and 50 pts were the 2 top scores. Joke!

    Sorry to hear you didn't win a prize. Yes 41 points is a ridiculous scores for 14 holes but with winter rules you'll always get those.

    You'll need to remind me of what competition where 51/50 points were the top 2. I keep a close on eye on competition results and don't remember that happening. But I could be mistaken. I do remember a 51 points winning but that isn't the course to blame but rather the handicap secretary.

    I think the monthly medals, captains prize etc weren't too bad. Reasonable scores.
    April 63/67/67
    May 67/67/70
    Jun 65/66/67
    Jul 66/66/67
    Aug 67/68/69
    Sep 67/68/69
    Captains Prize 66/67/68

    You always get flash in the pan scores. People used to say the same thing when I was in Mallow. But I think if you're good enough then you'll find your way into the prizes either with 51 points or a 66 in the monthly medal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Corkblowin


    bailey99 wrote: »
    14 holes open at the weekend, the competition was a fourball playing off 14/18 handicaps. Myself and my partner had 37pts and didn't even get in the prizes. What won, was it another crazy score Reganovski?????

    Was it f**k! 41 pts, ridiculous. As for your comment 45 points not winning every week. Are u for real, during the summer I knew a fella who had 49 pts and didn't even get in the prizes. 51 and 50 pts were the 2 top scores. Joke!

    I'm confused - are you looking for somewhere to play golf or somewhere to win prizes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Corkblowin wrote: »
    I'm confused - are you looking for somewhere to play golf or somewhere to win prizes?
    51 pts in kinsale?
    Doubt it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Corkblowin


    Dbu wrote: »
    51 pts in kinsale?
    Doubt it

    Point I was making is that I wouldn't be using the scores in a club determine if I'd join it or not. It was coming across as sour grapes that he wasn't winning prizes for a good score - & it was - just not good enough on the day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,138 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I love it when people lose out to a "ridiculous" score by a few points and are up in arms...
    Ridiculous score loses out to Ridiculous score minus 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Dormy


    Dbu wrote: »
    I am a memebr of Kinsale, and i do see it as a pain in the a.s.
    Winter League is 10 holes, i personally switch off after the 10 counting holes are completed, so no point in playing more.:D
    Last year the league was 14 holes which was better imo.
    I personally know 9 guys leaving this year and i am undecided myself as to what to do as most are my friends.
    bailey99 wrote: »
    I know a lot of people who joined from Rafeen Creek are leaving as well. Some of the committee down there are something else by all accounts!

    Also a member in Kinsale.

    I went out recently for winter league (10 holes) and when finished I entered the comp on the other 10 holes. Many more than me did the same.
    I went out the following week with the intention of doing the same but was glad to go home after 10 as the weather had gotten very wet.
    Another time I went down and played 5 holes on one course then entered the 10 hole comp on the other course.
    I think the 2 x 10 hole idea offers excellent choice. I was big time against it when I heard about it originally

    I hear a lot of people giving out about the 10 holes but then again people love complaining.

    As for the committee.... Is there a popular committee in a golf club anywhere?
    I have absolutely no connection with any committee members BTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭whocares86


    If anyone is interested i can get you full membership for Ring of kerry for €150


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭ulysses32


    Dormy wrote: »
    Also a member in Kinsale.

    I went out recently for winter league (10 holes) and when finished I entered the comp on the other 10 holes. Many more than me did the same.
    I went out the following week with the intention of doing the same but was glad to go home after 10 as the weather had gotten very wet.
    Another time I went down and played 5 holes on one course then entered the 10 hole comp on the other course.
    I think the 2 x 10 hole idea offers excellent choice. I was big time against it when I heard about it originally

    I hear a lot of people giving out about the 10 holes but then again people love complaining.

    As for the committee.... Is there a popular committee in a golf club anywhere?
    I have absolutely no connection with any committee members BTW

    I agree with the above with regard to Kinsale. I haven't experienced any difficulty getting out on the course at any stage during the winter. There are plenty of options there with the two ten hole comps running each week. I haven't much contact with the committee but the place seems to be running well so don't see any difficulties. I know quite a few lads who have joined or are joining for 2014.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭idle


    Does this include the Kerry card whocares86?

    Do you know what kind of discount clubs offer with the card?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭whocares86


    yes , includes kerry Card, not sure about the discounts on offer with it ,

    http://www.ringofkerrygolf.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Content&file=preview&id=2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bailey99


    whocares86 wrote: »
    yes , includes kerry Card, not sure about the discounts on offer with it ,

    http://www.ringofkerrygolf.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Content&file=preview&id=2


    What sort of condition is the place in these days? Great course but the condition of the place over the lasdt 2-3 years is nothing short of horrendous. Think they had 80-85,000 euros a year in membership subscriptions so the rest of income was green fees, of which I can't imagine there was much green fee income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    millerj wrote: »
    No. Mallow is €699 per year full stop. This is the fee to everyone unless opting for a five day membership. A lot of re-jigging in the club recently.

    Its not 699 for existing members ,the 699 is only for new members and it will go up in the second year.
    Its currently 924 euro for existing full members,770 sub ,85 euro land levy,50 bar sub and 19 euro Gui fee.
    The land levy is due to the club paying 1.2m euro for just over an acre of agricultural land at the height of the boom.:(

    The general sub is coming down though due to the removal of discounts for young and older members so it will probably be around 820-850 this year .
    Also a very popular Open competition every Wednesday and most importantly these competitions seem to be supported well so you would always get out on either day or both if you wanted.

    Too well supported if you ask me ,there is far too much timesheet space allocated to competitions in the club ,its often a struggle to get out for a casual game ,I know a number of members who left the club over this.
    They have introduced members timeslots now but its still not great.
    Also do they still play off mats in the winter, used to drive me mad.

    The mats they have now are decent ,much better than the garbage they had a few years ago.
    Still I dont understand why they cant use the grass tee boxes all year round ,as they are large and long tee boxes ,some 40 yards long.
    They trialled playing off grass all year round a few years ago and it was a big success but for some bizarre reason returned to the mats the following year.
    Its a pity as the course is playable all year round now and is well kept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭kerrycork13


    Any of these golf courses offer the monthly direct debit option because personally I would nt be able to afford the full yearly subscription in one payment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 padywhack


    Its not 699 for existing members ,the 699 is only for new members and it will go up in the second year.
    Its currently 924 euro for existing full members,770 sub ,85 euro land levy,50 bar sub and 19 euro Gui fee.
    The land levy is due to the club paying 1.2m euro for just over an acre of agricultural land at the height of the boom.:(

    The general sub is coming down though due to the removal of discounts for young and older members so it will probably be around 820-850 this year .

    I was of the impression from a number who attended the SGM recently that the sub was being reduced for existing members to €700 or €770 including levies. Can you elaborate on the €820 to €850 figure?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    padywhack wrote: »
    I was of the impression from a number who attended the SGM recently that the sub was being reduced for existing members to €700 or €770 including levies. Can you elaborate on the €820 to €850 figure?

    Thanks.

    The proposed new sub at the EGM was repeatedly mentioned by the treasurer to be around 750 euro inc land levy,there was no mention of 700 or 770 euro.
    However you have the bar levy and Gui fee on top of that so that brings it up to 819 .

    The 750 figure is not confirmed yet and wont be until the AGM in March,it could be higher and in most likelihood will be .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 padywhack


    The proposed new sub at the EGM was repeatedly mentioned by the treasurer to be around 750 euro inc land levy,there was no mention of 700 or 770 euro.
    However you have the bar levy and Gui fee on top of that so that brings it up to 819 .

    The 750 figure is not confirmed yet and wont be until the AGM in March,it could be higher and in most likelihood will be .

    Thanks for that, I was interested in rejoining Mallow at €700 long term, but if it's going to be in the €820-850 bracket per annum I'll probably give it a skip. A number of friends of mine are also now reconsidering with the information you've provided.

    Thanks again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    padywhack wrote: »
    Thanks for that, I was interested in rejoining Mallow at €700 long term, but if it's going to be in the €820-850 bracket per annum I'll probably give it a skip. A number of friends of mine are also now reconsidering with the information you've provided.

    Thanks again.

    Hi there, I'm a member in Mallow also, I'm not sure how accurate that info is to be honest. As I understand it the aim is to have one fee for all at €699 inclusive of levies, it is true that this can't be officially set until AGM in Feb / March but it's the intended annual sub and not a discounted 1st year fee.

    If you ring the club (022) 21145 I'm sure someone can confirm.

    I do know that if someone joins now the next fee is not due until March 2014 so its 15 for 12.

    There is a pay monthly option as well, somewhere around €60 I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 padywhack


    cairny wrote: »
    Hi there, I'm a member in Mallow also, I'm not sure how accurate that info is to be honest. As I understand it the aim is to have one fee for all at €699 inclusive of levies, it is true that this can't be officially set until AGM in Feb / March but it's the intended annual sub and not a discounted 1st year fee.

    If you ring the club (022) 21145 I'm sure someone can confirm.

    I do know that if someone joins now the next fee is not due until March 2014 so its 15 for 12.

    There is a pay monthly option as well, somewhere around €60 I think.

    Thanks again, more info to digest. I took your advice and rang Mallow and while they cannot give a definite fee until the AGM the suggestion is that it will be in and around the €699 figure.

    It's a pity that there's uncertainty surrounding this.

    Thanks again for the replies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    cairny wrote: »
    Hi there, I'm a member in Mallow also, I'm not sure how accurate that info is to be honest. As I understand it the aim is to have one fee for all at €699 inclusive of levies, it is true that this can't be officially set until AGM in Feb / March but it's the intended annual sub and not a discounted 1st year fee.

    How do you propose the club finance this 699 euro fee for all ??

    The club removed discounts for older members at the recent EGM as the club couldnt afford the reduced subs.It was supposedly costing the club 100,000 euro per annum .
    This reduced sub was a minimum of 693 euro whilst full members were paying over 920 euro.

    So as you understand the club will now charge a one off flat rate of 699 to all .
    If they cant sustain a sub of 693 euro for less than one quarter of the total members then how in Gods name can they sustain a sub of 699 for all ?
    The club would need a net increase of roughly 125 members to maintain its current income with a sub of 699 for all .

    I really dont understand the confusion over what was clearly said at the EGM but then again I am not surprised going on the past record of people attending meetings as they seem to hear what they wish to hear and spend time discussing frivolous matters instead of serious debate.

    I'll give you good odds the sub will be over 820 euro,its simple maths .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    How do you propose the club finance this 699 euro fee for all ??

    The club removed discounts for older members at the recent EGM as the club couldnt afford the reduced subs.It was supposedly costing the club 100,000 euro per annum .
    This reduced sub was a minimum of 693 euro whilst full members were paying over 920 euro.

    So as you understand the club will now charge a one off flat rate of 699 to all .
    If they cant sustain a sub of 693 euro for less than one quarter of the total members then how in Gods name can they sustain a sub of 699 for all ?
    The club would need a net increase of roughly 125 members to maintain its current income with a sub of 699 for all .

    I really dont understand the confusion over what was clearly said at the EGM but then again I am not surprised going on the past record of people attending meetings as they seem to hear what they wish to hear and spend time discussing frivolous matters instead of serious debate.

    I'll give you good odds the sub will be over 820 euro,its simple maths .

    Nothing to do with me just reporting that the proposed sub for next year is 699, people that join now are guaranteed that figure until Mar 2014. The sub fee can't be confirmed before then for the rest of us because the Club Constitution (like most member owned clubs) says sub is set at AGM.

    Your figures are incomplete (that's me being polite) and don't allow anything for reduced expenditure.

    I was at the meeting, don't know what frivolous matters you are referring to, they gave a sample figure of €750 including land levy. It was suggested form the floor that they should try to get it under €700 if possible and it seems as if they have.

    I'll happily take your bet btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    cairny wrote: »
    Nothing to do with me just reporting that the proposed sub for next year is 699, people that join now are guaranteed that figure until Mar 2014. The sub fee can't be confirmed before then for the rest of us because the Club Constitution (like most member owned clubs) says sub is set at AGM.

    Your figures are incomplete (that's me being polite) and don't allow anything for reduced expenditure.

    My figures are based off the last 5 years financial statements and treasurers reports so they are pretty complete .
    If anything they are more favorable as I haven't factored in the substantial number of members lost in 2013.

    With regards to reduced expenditure, the Board of Management have repeatedly told the members that the costs have been cut to the bone in the last few years.
    But looking at neighboring clubs costs ,clubs with far less members and much lower incomes, this obviously isnt the case and a huge cost has indeed recently been removed from the balance sheet (I'd actually forgotten about that),a move that was about 5 years overdue.
    As I have said on other threads there is plenty of fat on the bone in the club that needs trimming .
    I was at the meeting, don't know what frivolous matters you are referring to, they gave a sample figure of €750 including land levy. It was suggested from the floor that they should try to get it under €700 if possible and it seems as if they have.

    That is correct but the bar levy and Gui fee were not included in the 750 .
    The suggestion to get it under 700 euro was for new members ,could be marketed as less than 59 euro per month ,as the Board of management said they would be offering discounts to entice new members and lapsed members.

    A sub of 699 for all would mean a net drop in income of ~80-90k off current members being conservative .
    The club will do well to break even on the current financial year ,from what was said at the EGM ,and they want to retain 37k extra income for clubhouse improvements so they will have to cut expenditure by at least 120-130k per annum to balance the books or else bring in a huge amount of new members.

    I'd love if the sub was 700 but I cant see a sub of 700 for all members being introduced ,924 euro to 700 in one year is a huge drop ,especially when clubs are losing ~10% of members each year.
    Why would senior members describe the EGM as "turkeys voting for Christmas" if it only meant an increase of 6 euro in their sub ??

    The only way the figure of 700 could be hit is if the Land levy was temporarily frozen I guess,that was discussed.
    Perhaps the previous owner might buy it back for 1m :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    My figures are based off the last 5 years financial statements and treasurers reports so they are pretty complete .
    If anything they are more favorable as I haven't factored in the substantial number of members lost in 2013.

    With regards to reduced expenditure, the Board of Management have repeatedly told the members that the costs have been cut to the bone in the last few years.
    But looking at neighboring clubs costs ,clubs with far less members and much lower incomes, this obviously isnt the case and a huge cost has indeed recently been removed from the balance sheet (I'd actually forgotten about that),a move that was about 5 years overdue.
    As I have said on other threads there is plenty of fat on the bone in the club that needs trimming .



    That is correct but the bar levy and Gui fee were not included in the 750 .
    The suggestion to get it under 700 euro was for new members ,could be marketed as less than 59 euro per month ,as the Board of management said they would be offering discounts to entice new members and lapsed members.

    A sub of 699 for all would mean a net drop in income of ~80-90k off current members being conservative .
    The club will do well to break even on the current financial year ,from what was said at the EGM ,and they want to retain 37k extra income for clubhouse improvements so they will have to cut expenditure by at least 120-130k per annum to balance the books or else bring in a huge amount of new members.

    I'd love if the sub was 700 but I cant see a sub of 700 for all members being introduced ,924 euro to 700 in one year is a huge drop ,especially when clubs are losing ~10% of members each year.
    Why would senior members describe the EGM as "turkeys voting for Christmas" if it only meant an increase of 6 euro in their sub ??

    The only way the figure of 700 could be hit is if the Land levy was temporarily frozen I guess,that was discussed.
    Perhaps the previous owner might buy it back for 1m :)

    I checked at the weekend, 699 includes all levies incl gui, bar levy is going.

    It's not an intro offer, the principle for the future is that all of us between Juniors and 72 y olds pay the same.

    They've done all we could have asked for and more, I think I the circumstances we should suspend our cynicism (I'm usually that inclined to it, I have to admit) and give them the benefit of the doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 padywhack


    cairny wrote: »
    I checked at the weekend, 699 includes all levies incl gui, bar levy is going.

    It's not an intro offer, the principle for the future is that all of us between Juniors and 72 y olds pay the same.

    They've done all we could have asked for and more, I think I the circumstances we should suspend our cynicism (I'm usually that inclined to it, I have to admit) and give them the benefit of the doubt.


    Great stuff. I'll be signing up this weekend as will 2 friends of mine. Very food value at 699 per annum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    padywhack wrote: »
    Great stuff. I'll be signing up this weekend as will 2 friends of mine. Very food value at 699 per annum.

    Good to hear, welcome and all that. See you out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 padywhack


    cairny wrote: »
    Good to hear, welcome and all that. See you out there.

    Thanks for that, looking forward to getting back out when the weather improves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭tax_tutor1


    Just a little additional information for the thread based on its title
    Cork €10k entrance, €1,650 pa sub
    Douglas €7k/6.5, €1,318 pa
    Muskerry nil, €1,390 pa, good deal on country for those who qualify
    Monkstown €2,562 plus 1k loan, €1,450 pa
    Castlemartyr €2k, €1,000 pa
    Fota. .??/€1,890 pa but included comp entry fees

    Sub figures include bar levy and GUI.
    Clearly some clubs provide better value than others!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭tax_tutor1


    With regards to reduced expenditure, the Board of Management have repeatedly told the members that the costs have been cut to the bone in the last few years.
    But looking at neighboring clubs costs ,clubs with far less members and much lower incomes, this obviously isnt the case and a huge cost has indeed recently been removed from the balance sheet (I'd actually forgotten about that),a move that was about 5 years overdue.
    As I have said on other threads there is plenty of fat on the bone in the club that needs trimming "
    Do you have comparison cost figures for other local clubs?
    I would be interested in those figures for comparison purposes.
    What fat do you think Mallow can eliminate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Who are you addressing tax tutor ? I know of one new member who has joined for the disputed 699 within the last week just for general info. Well worth it too and I'm not a member there at all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭tax_tutor1


    Sorry Slicemeister,
    Quoted from MisterAnarchy in my comment.
    Hoping to get the info from him.
    Heard that Mallow have dropped Sec/Manager? Is this correct?


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