dry shed idea

john p mc g

ive a two bay double shed with tank on one side im putting a dry shed in other side was goin to put a good fall on floor into a channel piped into tank or was toying with the idea of putting floor in level. i have a tractor lawnmower here i dont use a side discharge c*unt of a thing was goin to make a scraper for the front of it and scraping it out every second day. the shed is goin to be for weanlings only would it be handier than straw and cheaper

49801

Struggling to visualise but I'd say put in a decent fall rather then level.
Think you're describing an Orkney sloping floor type shed.
Straw would be better IMO with a fall.
Bedding will stay a lot drier and last longer that way.
Make sure you've plenty/easy access points to clear the pipe!

Grecco

john p mc g wrote: »

ive a two bay double shed with tank on one side im putting a dry shed in other side was goin to put a good fall on floor into a channel piped into tank or was toying with the idea of putting floor in level. i have a tractor lawnmower here i dont use a side discharge c*unt of a thing was goin to make a scraper for the front of it and scraping it out every second day. the shed is goin to be for weanlings only would it be handier than straw and cheaper

Google translate ??

bbam

john p mc g wrote: »

ive a two bay double shed with tank on one side im putting a dry shed in other side was goin to put a good fall on floor into a channel piped into tank or was toying with the idea of putting floor in level. i have a tractor lawnmower here i dont use a side discharge c*unt of a thing was goin to make a scraper for the front of it and scraping it out every second day. the shed is goin to be for weanlings only would it be handier than straw and cheaper

Either straw or slats..
A concrete floor scrept out wouldnt be great.. it'll be cold and wet, they'd be better out in a field...

Put in a fall to drain off and bed with straw... although the way straw is going I'd wonder if a tank wouldnt claw back its cost quick enough and be handier....

I don't think the lawnmower would have the grunt nor traction to be up for the job...

bbam

Grecco wrote: »

Google translate ??

I'm not that well learned and I could figure it out..
Lets not turn into the grammer Nazis

Sir Arthur Daley

The best job for a dry shed is a good solid roof to keep the rain out.

john p mc g

Whats the least depth of a tank i would get away with for agitating purposes

blue5000

john p mc g wrote: »

Whats the least depth of a tank i would get away with for agitating purposes

8ft, the panels used are the metric equivalent of 8ft by 9ft. If you want to go shallower than that you could go to 6ft if you could get old type shapes.

adne

blue5000 wrote: »

8ft, the panels used are the metric equivalent of 8ft by 9ft. If you want to go shallower than that you could go to 6ft if you could get old type shapes.

Coul build a shallower tank but blocks, not sure what minimum depth would be needed for agitator though

ford 5600

you might as well make it 8 ft or at least 7 ft { can be done with old pans} as you will have to pay the same for the floor and the slats either way . you will be losing about 40% storage by going for a 5ft v 8 ft tank and will you be glad of that storage some crap day like yesterday . I have 2 63 ft tanks, 1 with 12ft 6 slats / 1 with 11ft 6 and you would be surprised at the difference in what they hold and all for a strip of concrete 1ft wide. That's my tuppence worth anyway.

john p mc g

Im building with blocks so can have any depth

Farmer Pudsey

Could you slope one pen across the passage into tank if so you could put a small stub along to hold in dung and liquid.

Unless in a tillage are straw is not a runner it cost a lot to haul air across the country. If feeding cattle to gain 0.5kgs/day dung wet straw too much. Got rid of my straw bedded pens this year. Was taking 1-2 bales of straw/week for 8 weanlings. Would be cheaper to buy in spring adding 5 euro/week/head to cost. Then you had to clean shed and store dung spring.

Like another poster said a tank under the cattle and pipe into other tank however lots of solids in small tank will be hard to get them out. What will be in the pens.

john p mc g

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Could you slope one pen across the passage into tank if so you could put a small stub along to hold in dung and liquid.

Unless in a tillage are straw is not a runner it cost a lot to haul air across the country. If feeding cattle to gain 0.5kgs/day dung wet straw too much. Got rid of my straw bedded pens this year. Was taking 1-2 bales of straw/week for 8 weanlings. Would be cheaper to buy in spring adding 5 euro/week/head to cost. Then you had to clean shed and store dung spring.

Like another poster said a tank under the cattle and pipe into other tank however lots of solids in small tank will be hard to get them out. What will be in the pens.

It wii be weanlings in pens

Farmer Pudsey

john p mc g wrote: »

It wii be weanlings in pens

I go for a small tank underneath, go 6-7' deep. A lot depends on your ground is it dry or will there be weight against the wall if ground is wet. Use a 10' slat. the other choice is to slope across the central passage and feed in an L inside in shed or consider taking out a side or end wall of slatted area if facing North or East. and feed that pen outside slope floor back from feed as Orkney sloped floor but will your tank take all the slurry.

If you can lay blocks yourself I nearly chance a small tank or even but one of the precast tanks and drop it into hole .

john p mc g

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I go for a small tank underneath, go 6-7' deep. A lot depends on your ground is it dry or will there be weight against the wall if ground is wet. Use a 10' slat. the other choice is to slope across the central passage and feed in an L inside in shed or consider taking out a side or end wall of slatted area if facing North or East. and feed that pen outside slope floor back from feed as Orkney sloped floor but will your tank take all the slurry.

If you can lay blocks yourself I nearly chance a small tank or even but one of the precast tanks and drop it into hole .

Thanks for the advice pudsey i think a tank is my only option i have a machine and i can throw down the blocks myself might have a lookout for 10ft slats secondhand espically when its only weanlings on it

Midlandsman80

Hi Pudsey, when you say you "got rid" of your stay bed sheds did you put tanks in them or some other method of bedding? ill be planning something like this myself very shortly...

If it was well sloped to channel to tank id consider 1 ft of peat with straw on top and the front 8-10 ft at feed barrier bare and good access to scrape to a dung collection point or tank..

Farmer Pudsey

Midlandsman80 wrote: »

Hi Pudsey, when you say you "got rid" of your stay bed sheds did you put tanks in them or some other method of bedding? ill be planning something like this myself very shortly...

If it was well sloped to channel to tank id consider 1 ft of peat with straw on top and the front 8-10 ft at feed barrier bare and good access to scrape to a dung collection point or tank..

Put a tank in underneath three of the pens left the 4th as there was a wall I would have to take out. Dinger of a job you would swear it was always there. It holding 34 weanlings light stores and 10 bullocks that I think I am going to finish,

Midlandsman80

Sounds like a great job, i know someone with a full shed dry shed, 4 bays each side, decent slope to channel at front and then out to effluent collection tank, pretty sure he regrets not putting in some tanks, even of was just at the face of some of them and leave some pens for lust layback.
Was your concrete deep for cutting and digging and did you drop in or build tanks?

conseng

blue5000 wrote: »

8ft, the panels used are the metric equivalent of 8ft by 9ft. If you want to go shallower than that you could go to 6ft if you could get old type shapes.

The shutters dont need to be filled to the top.

john p mc g

Whats yer opinons on single slats i knw a lad with some would get them for less than 15 euro each id say how many would be neede to cover a bay

conseng

blue5000 wrote: »

8ft, the panels used are the metric equivalent of 8ft by 9ft. If you want to go shallower than that you could go to 6ft if you could get old type shapes.

The shutters dont need to be filled to the top.

conseng

blue5000 wrote: »

8ft, the panels used are the metric equivalent of 8ft by 9ft. If you want to go shallower than that you could go to 6ft if you could get old type shapes.

The shutters dont need to be filled to the top.