My local post office ran out of money this morning

house45

Was in this morning collecting my double week money and was told that they ran out of money and that I would have to call back after 3 today. No problem I said sure that's great thanks. There must of being 40 people queuing up behind me that overheard what I was told , who then started to shout and give out about this to the poor guy behind the counter! What is wrong with sum people!!!

errlloyd

"what dya mean the banks out of money“

mickdw

house45 wrote: »

Was in this morning collecting my double week money and was told that they ran out of money and that I would have to call back after 3 today. No problem I said sure that's great thanks. There must of being 40 people queuing up behind me that overheard what I was told , who then started to shout and give out about this to the poor guy behind the counter! What is wrong with sum people!!!

Jesus, if I could walk into post office and be handed free money, the last thing I'd be doing is giving out about it.

snubbleste

Bank Run !!!

IvyTheTerrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylEtBbFYtIY

kjl

mickdw wrote: »

Jesus, if I could walk into post office and be handed free money, the last thing I'd be doing is giving out about it.

you can, just quit your job. Lets see how long you last.

DoozerT6

http://youtu.be/EOzMdEwYmDU

mfergus

house45 wrote: »

There must of being 40 people queuing up behind me that overheard what I was told , who then started to shout and give out about this to the poor guy behind the counter! What is wrong with sum people!!!

That's because they're so entitled to it and so used to getting it without any hassle or need to prove or do anything.

Tell them "if you don't shut up giving out you'll get nothing "

Muise...

house45 wrote: »

Was in this morning collecting my double week money and was told that they ran out of money and that I would have to call back after 3 today. No problem I said sure that's great thanks. There must of being 40 people queuing up behind me that overheard what I was told , who then started to shout and give out about this to the poor guy behind the counter! What is wrong with sums people!!!

now.

SEPT 23 1989

the state has run out of money only a day after Edna's speech

Specialun

Poor Ba$tards. must be horrible to have to wait 2 hours for free money

I can only imagine the pain they are currently going through

phasers

Queuing in my local post office is so bad I think it encourages people to look for work. There's only ever one window open and the queue is always out the door. Everyone there smells too, including the staff.

19543261

This thread is going to be a big pile of **** before the second page.

mfergus

"I have to wait 2 hours to get my free money!!!! Sure it be too late to go back to bed then!!!"

My name is URL

It's fcuking mental that money is given out in the post office in this day and age. Seriously like, it's asking for trouble having so much cash being handled in such a way.

MrBlack93

Must......resist......urge.........to rant about dole spongers

corkgsxr

Ah in fairness alot probably needed to get back to work. Or catch there flight home

mfergus

My name is URL wrote: »

It's fcuking mental that money is given out in the post office in this day and age. Seriously like, it's asking for trouble having so much cash being handled in such a way.

You're right. Maybe they should bring it around to the peoples houses

phasers

mfergus wrote: »

You're right. Maybe they should bring it around to the peoples houses

In a Brinks van! Can't be too careful

IvyTheTerrible

mfergus wrote: »

You're right. Maybe they should bring it around to the peoples houses

Well here in France it goes into your bank account directly. You can also sign on by ringing up or online.

phasers

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Well here in France it goes into your bank account directly. You can also sign on by ringing up or online.

They used to do that but stopped it because it was too easy to defraud the system IIRC

Specialun

I dont think I would trust our lot to do it Electronically

mickdw

kjl wrote: »

you can, just quit your job. Lets see how long you last.

Well to give your a full and Frank answer to that post. No. I can't. Im one of the seemingly outcast of this society. Im self employed! and at times over the last 5 years earning less than the dole per week.
Even though I pay tax and stamp, I do not qualify for payment based on my contributions. I could apply for dole but again being self employed it is quite difficult to get a payment. Compared to a person who has just become unemployed, a self employed person has a crazy process to go through so as I said, if I could walk into p.o. and get some free cash each week, I wouldn't be complaining about the odd delay.

Lapin

house45 wrote: »

What is wrong with sum people!!!

They just don't add up.

IvyTheTerrible

phasers wrote: »

They used to do that but stopped it because it was too easy to defraud the system IIRC

Ah.
There is some fraud over here but TBH the amount of red tape you have to go through to do anything administrative here stops a certain amount.

Guy:Incognito

mfergus wrote: »

Tell them "if you don't shut up giving out you'll get nothing "

Does the op have that power? Cool. King of the doley's ..

Guy:Incognito

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Well here in France it goes into your bank account directly. You can also sign on by ringing up or online.

Thats a nice handy system. Nip in to the toilet in work and sign on.

pajor

My name is URL wrote: »

It's fcuking mental that money is given out in the post office in this day and age. Seriously like, it's asking for trouble having so much cash being handled in such a way.

Yup.

My name is URL

phasers wrote: »

They used to do that but stopped it because it was too easy to defraud the system IIRC

...because they were too incompetent to properly enforce and monitor the process!

There's still tonnes of people abusing or defrauding the system as it is today. Shur that's why they've had to introduce checkpoints manned by SW inspectors and have checks done at airports etc.

I'd say the cost of securely transporting money to all of the country's post-offices is astronomical, not to mention dangerous.

Bog Standard User

Specialun wrote: »

I can only imagine the pain they are currently going through

pain from withdrawl symptoms or beatings from the local drug dealer for not paying up for the drugs on time????

our tax money making scumbags wealthy this xmas

hardCopy

My name is URL wrote: »

...because they were too incompetent to properly enforce and monitor the process!

There's still tonnes of people abusing or defrauding the system as it is today. Shur that's why they've had to introduce checkpoints manned by SW inspectors and have checks done at airports etc.

I'd say the cost of securely transporting money to all of the country's post-offices is astronomical, not to mention dangerous.

If it's a fraud prevention thing then they could continue to require physical sign on but transfer to a bank. The clerk in the PO/Welfare Office could be responsible for authorising the transfer rather than handing out cash.

Conall Cernach

It's easy enough to understand people getting annoyed. How could the post office have underestimated the amount they would have to pay out so badly? Surely it would be roughly twice what they normally pay out. Why did they not say something earlier saving a bunch of people from queuing for who knows how long? If you were standing 40 people back in a queue and there was some commotion up front about there not being any money then you may shout too.

renegademaster

mickdw wrote: »

Jesus, if I could walk into post office and be handed free money, the last thing I'd be doing is giving out about it.

free money?? ya do realise the dole is to keep people alive, barely, until there's work again!! free money me ar$ehole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The_B_Man

What's this "double week money"?

Are dole people getting paid twice their dole for xmas or something??

Bog Standard User

The_B_Man wrote: »

What's this "double week money"?

Are dole people getting paid twice their dole for xmas or something??

no they get next week's dole along with this weeks dole together

anncoates

mickdw wrote: »

Jesus, if I could walk into post office and be handed free money, the last thing I'd be doing is giving out about it.

Maybe it's social welfare for which the OP paid their stamps?

Some breathtaking trolling going on so far, even by AH standards.

Call Me Jimmy

mickdw wrote: »

Well to give your a full and Frank answer to that post. No. I can't. Im one of the seemingly outcast of this society. Im self employed! and at times over the last 5 years earning less than the dole per week.
Even though I pay tax and stamp, I do not qualify for payment based on my contributions. I could apply for dole but again being self employed it is quite difficult to get a payment. Compared to a person who has just become unemployed, a self employed person has a crazy process to go through so as I said, if I could walk into p.o. and get some free cash each week, I wouldn't be complaining about the odd delay.

Our brains normalise to situations pretty fast though, it's one of its most important features so I doubt you are outside of normalising to a new and improved situation and end up complaining about something you wouldn't have previously complained about.

Santa Cruz

Specialun wrote: »

Poor Ba$tards. must be horrible to have to wait 2 hours for free money

I can only imagine the pain they are currently going through

Did anyone ring Joe?

B.A._Baracus

Ah so its double-week eh? :P

*runs to post office* lol.

Conall Cernach

Conall Cernach wrote: »

It's easy enough to understand people getting annoyed. How could the post office have underestimated the amount they would have to pay out so badly? Surely it would be roughly twice what they normally pay out.

No, it wouldn't be easy. Obviously they can't just overestimate and keep a few million in the back of the office just in case. So they have to consider that on top of the double welfare payments, there's also long-lasting payments that people might leave alone for a few weeks/months and then pick up on one particular day. I know someone who only picks up his pension every six weeks or so; I don't know how much that would be but I'm sure it amounts to quite a few jobseeker payment equivalents. IIRC child benefit payments can be left untouched for months and then picked up in one bunch - pretty convenient way to save up for christmas presents. Then there's peoples savings as well, from my book I can pick up up to €3000 a day - surely there's loads of people taking money out on the week before Christmas. So there's probably huge payouts going on at the moment. It's hardly easy to estimate.

Anyway, I wouldn't imagine that a two-hour delay really counts as underestimating "so badly".

It's Christmas. Buses will be late. Shop queues will be long. ATMs will go out of service. Butchers will need advance warning. Bisto sales will soar. Heating bills will rise. Banks and post offices will be overrun. It's part and parcel of the season.

DazMarz

Conall Cernach wrote: »

It's easy enough to understand people getting annoyed. How could the post office have underestimated the amount they would have to pay out so badly? Surely it would be roughly twice what they normally pay out. Why did they not say something earlier saving a bunch of people from queuing for who knows how long? If you were standing 40 people back in a queue and there was some commotion up front about there not being any money then you may shout too.

The post offices themselves don't decide on the money. The local regional head office decides that. It's their fault, not the post office.

Corkbah

mickdw wrote: »

Well to give your a full and Frank answer to that post. No. I can't. Im one of the seemingly outcast of this society. Im self employed! and at times over the last 5 years earning less than the dole per week.
Even though I pay tax and stamp, I do not qualify for payment based on my contributions. I could apply for dole but again being self employed it is quite difficult to get a payment. Compared to a person who has just become unemployed, a self employed person has a crazy process to go through so as I said, if I could walk into p.o. and get some free cash each week, I wouldn't be complaining about the odd delay.

Yes you can …. if you pay the higher rate of PRSI instead of the lower rate…..most accountants will opt to put you on the lower rate as it maximises your take home pay and minimises your tax output, go and chat with your accountant.

I'm self employed and pay the higher rate of PRSI and have been doing so for years after I learned about it - I can now get welfare for 2 days a week and work three(3) days …. if I wasn't already working 6 days a week, at least the option is there if things get tough.

mickdw

Corkbah wrote: »

Yes you can …. if you pay the higher rate of PRSI instead of the lower rate…..most accountants will opt to put you on the lower rate as it maximises your take home pay and minimises your tax output, go and chat with your accountant.

I'm self employed and pay the higher rate of PRSI and have been doing so for years after I learned about it - I can now get welfare for 2 days a week and work three(3) days …. if I wasn't already working 6 days a week, at least the option is there if things get tough.

That's very interesting. Thanks for that.
Very much worth looking at.

Daqster

The_B_Man wrote: »

Are dole people getting paid twice their dole for xmas or something??

Three weeks money actually and a box of biscuits.

For Forks Sake

Daqster wrote: »

Three weeks money actually and a box of biscuits.

What sort of biscuits?

NuckingFacker

For Forks Sake wrote: »

What sort of biscuits?

Sponge fingers.

My name is URL

My name is URL wrote: »

It's fcuking mental that money is given out in the post office in this day and age. Seriously like, it's asking for trouble having so much cash being handled in such a way.

money used to go into bank aco*****

just changed to catch dole scammers so it charged to post office

B.A._Baracus

Being honest I never quite got anti-dole opinions on here.
If living on the social welfare is some lavish life style then how come said people dont jack their jobs and go on it? ... or could it be because people just like to moan about something.

Kristopherus

Corkbah wrote: »

Yes you can …. if you pay the higher rate of PRSI instead of the lower rate…..most accountants will opt to put you on the lower rate as it maximises your take home pay and minimises your tax output, go and chat with your accountant.

I'm self employed and pay the higher rate of PRSI and have been doing so for years after I learned about it - I can now get welfare for 2 days a week and work three(3) days …. if I wasn't already working 6 days a week, at least the option is there if things get tough.

What you are doing is making voluntary contributions. What the vast majority do is pay the taxman the €253 Class S contribution. Taxman pays this to Welfare. This minimum sum is to increase from 2013 to €500. But there's no change to the (very miserly) benefits available to the self-employed.

darkpagandeath

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Being honest I never quite got anti-dole opinions on here.
If living on the social welfare is some lavish life style then how come said people dont jack their jobs and go on it? ... or could it be because people just like to moan about something.

I don't get it either Disability allowance is scammed way more than the JSA you cant x-ray pain can you.. I forgot just after the Celtic tiger people just decided to stop working and take the vast sum of 188 pw to live off as you know that’s loads of money is it not.. And i assume the companies those people worked for did not pay there tax for the employee to the government either ? As it seems like only certain peoples tax is paid to the social and they have every right to come on here and bash and abuse the people it goes to.

allthedoyles

I went into local post office this evening to buy a stamp and queue outside the front door .

Had to leave again without a stamp.

Can some of these people not get paid directly into bank account .