how many bags of gran lime to the acre?

GERMAN ROCKS

Got soil tests done and it said the worst field needed 15 tonnes to the hectare or lime :O
anyway spread the whole farm with 2 tonnes but the spreader man obviously spread it a tiny fraction heavier and that field was the one left out as we cran out of lime. All the other fields needed around 4 tonnes so will do another two tonnes next year.

anyway back to the field that needs the 15 tonnes. I am going to give this gran lime for this year. Whats the max application to give it in one go?

Good loser

For grass don't waste your money. Do it at 4 tonnes ground limestone per acre.

Muckit

Ya when ground conditions improve in the spring, order a load of ground limestone and spread that.

jomoloney

Good loser wrote: »

For grass don't waste your money. Do it at 4 tonnes ground limestone per acre.

a lot of folks (myself included) reckon that 4 ton to the ac. is wasting money.

best to go with 2t/ac every couple of years

jersey101

Muckit wrote: »

Ya when ground conditions improve in the spring, order a load of ground limestone and spread that.

+1 if a field needs that much lime id begoing for ground all the way. Although it will be next year before the lime will start to work so maybe the gran lime might do something

Brown Podzol

15 ton/ha is 6 ton/acre. Two x 3 ton applications two years apart.

GERMAN ROCKS

its only a 6 acre field and don't want to be asking the lad with the spreader to come just for 20 tonnes because the fellow I use is about 10 miles. ( hes a first cousin so get him but would never be spreading less than 100 tonnes)

i have the idea of granlime now in my head and will do ground lime in this field again in two years.

Farmer Pudsey

I have read somewhere that large applications of lime while correcting PH will change micro biology of land and it takes years to come right again. do not know if I would go heavier than 2T/acre and even then would only do it 3-4 years apart.

I wonder how deep you need the ph right for grassland. The majority of ryegrass roots only goes 1-2 inches deep, are roots deeper than that for moisture only, I would like to know the answers.

1-2bags of gran lime/acre is supposed to correct ph for 6-9 months.

GERMAN ROCKS

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I have read somewhere that large applications of lime while correcting PH will change micro biology of land and it takes years to come right again. do not know if I would go heavier than 2T/acre and even then would only do it 3-4 years apart.

I wonder how deep you need the ph right for grassland. The majority of ryegrass roots only goes 1-2 inches deep, are roots deeper than that for moisture only, I would like to know the answers.

1-2bags of gran lime/acre is supposed to correct ph for 6-9 months.

if i went with 4 bags of gran lime to the acre what would happen?

jersey101

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

if i went with 4 bags of gran lime to the acre what would happen?

we spread phisolith lime here 2 Years ago, 2 bags to the acre. Lime is fine here, since test 2 yrs ago any way. Spread another 2 bags this year again. Mighty stuff i reckon turns the place here inside out. 260e a T i think. Not 100% on it though

Farmer Pudsey

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

if i went with 4 bags of gran lime to the acre what would happen?

Have never seen it recommended higher than 2-3 (50kg )bags/acre. After one bag it is supposed to reduced ph of ground. If you have six acre field a tong of granlime or g-lime can be got for 140-160/ton in bulk or small bags, spread half in march and rest in May/June, and maybe only a half a ton next year.

TBH I am a fan of granlime/g-lime it seems to work on my farm

jersey101 wrote: »

we spread phisolith lime here 2 Years ago, 2 bags to the acre. Lime is fine here, since test 2 yrs ago any way. Spread another 2 bags this year again. Mighty stuff i reckon turns the place here inside out. 260e a T i think. Not 100% on it though

What is phisolith lime

awaywithyou

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Have never seen it recommended higher than 2-3 (50kg )bags/acre. After one bag it is supposed to reduced ph of ground. If you have six acre field a tong of granlime or g-lime can be got for 140-160/ton in bulk or small bags, spread half in march and rest in May/June, and maybe only a half a ton next year.

TBH I am a fan of granlime/g-lime it seems to work on my farm



What is phisolith lime

physiolith lime is gran lime.... im guessing jersey got it from that crowd in wexford.. grassland agro i think there called or it could be Timac... i think..

we have used gran lime here... 2 bags/acre we put it out at... the recommendation is 3 bags/acre yr 1... followed by a bag/acre in yr 2 and another bag/acre in yr 3.

i was at a farm walk 2/3 months ago. teagasc man said gran lime waste of time... go with ground limestone...

for ground limstone.. the recomendation is max 2t/acre in yr 1.. nothing in yr 2.. go with 2t/acre in yr 3...

Farmer Pudsey

awaywithyou wrote: »

physiolith lime is gran lime.... im guessing jersey got it from that crowd in wexford.. grassland agro i think there called or it could be Timac... i think..

we have used gran lime here... 2 bags/acre we put it out at... the recommendation is 3 bags/acre yr 1... followed by a bag/acre in yr 2 and another bag/acre in yr 3.

i was at a farm walk 2/3 months ago. teagasc man said gran lime waste of time... go with ground limestone...

for ground limstone.. the recomendation is max 2t/acre in yr 1.. nothing in yr 2.. go with 2t/acre in yr 3...

Like Jersey I have used it and have been for 3-4 years. had not done ph on farm no lime spread for since I bought it. Used it because money tight checked ph last year everywhere 6.5-7. Now I have limestone land and I used 2b/acre for 2 years and 1 bag after that.

Since my ph is right I think it is cheaper than lime 1/2-1 bag/acre/year. will cost 5-7/acre and it is a yearly cost rather than once every 5years. 2t/acre would cost 40-45 every 6-10 years.

Jersey you should be able to buy granlime at less than 150/ton. I buy with my fertilizer as it adds a few ton to my fertilizer it reduces everything else by 1-2euro/ton

jersey101

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Like Jersey I have used it and have been for 3-4 years. had not done ph on farm no lime spread for since I bought it. Used it because money tight checked ph last year everywhere 6.5-7. Now I have limestone land and I used 2b/acre for 2 years and 1 bag after that.

Since my ph is right I think it is cheaper than lime 1/2-1 bag/acre/year. will cost 5-7/acre and it is a yearly cost rather than once every 5years. 2t/acre would cost 40-45 every 6-10 years.

Jersey you should be able to buy granlime at less than 150/ton. I buy with my fertilizer as it adds a few ton to my fertilizer it reduces everything else by 1-2euro/ton

We used gran lime a few yeats aswell but i think this stuff gives a better kick. The phisolith lime is made out of seaweed that is scraped off the sea floor in france

towzer2010

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

if i went with 4 bags of gran lime to the acre what would happen?

I'd go with 3 max and then 2 the next year and then 1 bag for maintenance. I've applied it to some of my land in this way in the last few years because like yourself I find its easier to use gran lime sometimes for handiness sake. Its worked well for me but longer term I'll be using ground limestone.

Injuryprone

Quick question, how come gran lime is seen as being way more expensive than ground lime?

I must be missing something because, for maintainence, it's
1) granlime - 1 bag / acre / year - at 160/tonne that's €8/ acre/year
2) ground lime - 2t/acre every 5? years - at 23/tonne that's €9.10 /acre/year

Now I know you'll have to add the cost of spreading the granlime yourself. Maybe the ground lime will last for more than the 5 years but when you consider that granlime is also more convenient to spread I can't see how it's that much more expensive

beef burger

ground limestone cover the ground better i spose local contractor wouldnt let us put more than 2 tonne per acre any more he reckoned would have an effect with minerals in soils. but for a small bit id say 3 to 4 per bag per acre mite do the job.

Good loser

Injuryprone wrote: »

Quick question, how come gran lime is seen as being way more expensive than ground lime?

I must be missing something because, for maintainence, it's
1) granlime - 1 bag / acre / year - at 160/tonne that's €8/ acre/year
2) ground lime - 2t/acre every 5? years - at 23/tonne that's €9.10 /acre/year

Now I know you'll have to add the cost of spreading the granlime yourself. Maybe the ground lime will last for more than the 5 years but when you consider that granlime is also more convenient to spread I can't see how it's that much more expensive

I have often spread 4 tonnes per acre - never been a problem.

Granlime at €160 is 7 or 8 times the price of ground limestone. As I said above a waste of money except for one season barley/beet on rented land. Years ago in college was shown where first year after lime only spread output increased 2%; where fert applied (don't know which or how much) output of grass was +20%.