Belfast bombed by dizzy traitors

old hippy

I see the brave patriots have been at it again. And at a busy time of year in the run up to xmas. How thoughtful of them. No doubt this is the wake up call we all need to remind us that patriotism, romantic and just, is still with us.

I wonder what we can expect for the centenary of the Rising? Perhaps a bit of carnage in some of the major cities at home and in the UK just to make us all proud as punch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25372680

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the usual suspects will be along shortly im sure to let us know how this is all britains fault

old hippy

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the usual suspects will be along shortly im sure to let us know how this is all britains fault

No doubt the citizens of Belfast were just asking for it, have the audacity to be out on a Friday evening!

Phoebas

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the usual suspects will be along shortly im sure to let us know how this is all britains fault

... or how the current crop of physical force republicans are completely different from the previous crop, whose bombs were designed for defence proposes only.

LOSTfan57

So guess this is an exclusive pro British are great Irish is scum as your sort so love to make.

Festy

****en Catholics !

MonstaMash

Pray tell which bunch of patriots from which side of the divide has claimed responsibility for the deed this time?

Phoebas

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

So guess this is an exclusive pro British are great Irish is scum as your sort so love to make.

My guess is that that bomb was planted by Irish people to kill other Irish people.
The Brits don't come into it.

Sunnyisland

Sinn Féin's Gerry Kelly also condemned the attack.

"This indiscriminate and reckless action was an attack on all the people of Belfast and those that had come into the city centre to shop or enjoy the build-up to the festive holidays," he said.

"Thankfully no one was hurt. Those that voice support for these groups, who's only allegiance is to violence, need to come forward and explain to the people what they aim to achieve by this reckless action."

old hippy

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

So guess this is an exclusive pro British are great Irish is scum as your sort so love to make.

Yes. Well done. That's exactly what this thread is about. :rolleyes:

Meangadh

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

So guess this is an exclusive pro British are great Irish is scum as your sort so love to make.

I'm pretty sure it's just a "leave these people who are trying to enjoy their night out without getting blasted into smithereens alone" kind of thread.

I know I couldn't care less about who did it anyway. I'm more concerned with the potential deaths part.

smallerthanyou

Had planned a weekend in Belfast for maybe February. Stuff like this makes me unlikely to go however slight the risk. And I really love Belfast. Its sad for the city and its good people.

spank_inferno

I always find it odd how the UK media have such a blind spot regarding NI.

I checked sky, BBC & the Guardian.... None have this attack as a headline (or even near the top).

Can you imagine their response if this happened in any other UK city & heaven forbid the perpetrators were people with brown skin!

Valetta

realies wrote: »

Sinn Féin's Gerry Kelly also condemned the attack.

"This indiscriminate and reckless action was an attack on all the people of Belfast and those that had come into the city centre to shop or enjoy the build-up to the festive holidays," he said.

"Thankfully no one was hurt. Those that voice support for these groups, who's only allegiance is to violence, need to come forward and explain to the people what they aim to achieve by this reckless action."

That's not a condemnation .

He would have been better saying nothing.

J Cheever Loophole

smallerthanyou wrote: »

Had planned a weekend in Belfast for maybe February. Stuff like this makes me unlikely to go however slight the risk. And I really love Belfast. Its sad for the city and its good people.

Please don't let this put you off - I'm writing this a few hundred yards from where the bomb went off and looking out there is Christmas preparations going on as normal with people enjoying the festive shopping as they would in any large city. I appreciate this sort of thing captures all the wrong headlines but the chances of getting caught up in something like this are minute. Come up and you will have a great time.

CitizenKeane

old hippy wrote: »

I see the brave patriots have been at it again. And at a busy time of year in the run up to xmas. How thoughtful of them. No doubt this is the wake up call we all need to remind us that patriotism, romantic and just, is still with us.

I wonder what we can expect for the centenary of the Rising? Perhaps a bit of carnage in some of the major cities at home and in the UK just to make us all proud as punch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25372680

Absolutely disgraceful. What complete idiots.
But to infer that patriotism is the same as IRA bombings is ridiculous.
Being patriotic is not a bad thing, and you come across as trying to make it something shameful.

J Cheever Loophole

Valetta wrote: »

That's not a condemnation . He would have been better saying nothing.

Sinn Féin's Gerry Kelly;

"indiscriminate"
"reckless action"
"an attack on all the people"



Can you give me your definition of condemnation?

minidazzler

Valetta wrote: »

That's not a condemnation .

He would have been better saying nothing.

Yes it is, I'm the furthest thing from a shinner and what that said is "These dumb scummy fcuks are idiots".

I genuinely hope the next bomb they are building kills them, but not too quickly. I'd like them to suffer for being such horrible fcuking morons.

Al Capwned

smallerthanyou wrote: »

Had planned a weekend in Belfast for maybe February. Stuff like this makes me unlikely to go however slight the risk. And I really love Belfast. Its sad for the city and its good people.

Go. Dont let this stop you - Belfast is a fantastic city, with really friendly people. You'll have a ball...
You don't go, and the assholes that set this win.

Valetta

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Sinn Féin's Gerry Kelly;

"indiscriminate"
"reckless action"
"an attack on all the people"



Can you give me your definition of condemnation?

"I condemn" would be a good start.

J Cheever Loophole

Valetta wrote: »

"I condemn" would be a good start.

Come off it!?! :rolleyes:

bumper234

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Come off it!?! :rolleyes:

Whats wrong? The best way to condemn something is to speak the words I Condemn this act!

Ugh. Will whoever did it just bugger off?

J Cheever Loophole

bumper234 wrote: »

Whats wrong? The best way to condemn something is to speak the words I Condemn this act!

It's being pedantic. The words Gerry Kelly used are clearly condemnatory in character. I would prefer to hear what he says than a simple "I condemn this".

Valetta

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Come off it!?! :rolleyes:

There is no condemnation in his statement quoted above.

All it is is a statement of facts.

It's the usual Sinn Fein mealy mouthed utterings.

stoneill

CitizenKeane wrote: »

Absolutely disgraceful. What complete idiots.
But to infer that patriotism is the same as IRA bombings is ridiculous.
Being patriotic is not a bad thing, and you come across as trying to make it something shameful.

I think he was using sarcasm to reinforce the point that the perpetrators of this act have no idea what true patriotism is, and are following the foolish notion that violence is a means to achieve what they aspire to.

bumper234

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

It's being pedantic. The words Gerry Kelly used are clearly condemnatory in character. I would prefer to hear what he says than a simple "I condemn this".

No the words he used was political speak to avoid saying the words "I condemn"

J Cheever Loophole

Apologies to all if this is sidetracking the debate. My last response therefore on this matter.

bumper234 wrote: »

No the words he used was political speak to avoid saying the words "I condemn"

Despite his statment You are still unsure as to his thoughts towards this incident last night? If the answer to that question is yes, then my guess is you have a problem with Gerry Kelly as opposed to what he actually said.

MJ23

Cowards.

Notus

cowards,

Richard

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

So guess this is an exclusive pro British are great Irish is scum as your sort so love to make.

Who has said that?

Richard

spank_inferno wrote: »

I always find it odd how the UK media have such a blind spot regarding NI.

I checked sky, BBC & the Guardian.... None have this attack as a headline (or even near the top).

Can you imagine their response if this happened in any other UK city & heaven forbid the perpetrators were people with brown skin!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news

It's the sixth story here - was much further up last night. Although possibly not on the "world" version of the BBC News website you might be seeing.

old hippy

CitizenKeane wrote: »

Absolutely disgraceful. What complete idiots.
But to infer that patriotism is the same as IRA bombings is ridiculous.
Being patriotic is not a bad thing, and you come across as trying to make it something shameful.

I used the term "brave patriots" in a sarcastic way. I don't subscribe to patriotism in general but I have no problems with (for example) the 1916 patriots or the American Revolution...

The people behind this latest bit of mayhem are not, nor ever will be patriotic.

MFdaveIreland

Fee points to make, I see in the news regularly that a bomb has went off etc, likely to be dissident republicans, I'm curious to how these people come to the conclusion that it is, and would I be mad suggesting that people could be doing it to blame it in them, I'm nt taking sides, and not do I understand, I'm a just a tad skeptical that It could in some cases be a type of frame, but I wholeheartedly condemn all these attacks, scum bags whovever they are , any thoughts, is this too Way out to be viable?

Phoebas

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Fee points to make, I see in the news regularly that a bomb has went off etc, likely to be dissident republicans, I'm curious to how these people come to the conclusion that it is, and would I be mad suggesting that people could be doing it to blame it in them, I'm nt taking sides, and not do I understand, I'm a just a tad skeptical that It could in some cases be a type of frame, but I wholeheartedly condemn all these attacks, scum bags whovever they are , any thoughts, is this too Way out to be viable?

Yes.

The Diabolical Monocle

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the usual suspects will be along shortly im sure to let us know how this is all britains fault

Well lets see, British citizens on British soil. (Thats certainly Britains take on it) So that would make it "all Britains fault".

Can't have it both ways.

Dont try to drag Ireland into it.

hollypink

smallerthanyou wrote: »

Had planned a weekend in Belfast for maybe February. Stuff like this makes me unlikely to go however slight the risk. And I really love Belfast. Its sad for the city and its good people.

I hope you are persuaded to go by the other replies above. I visited last week for the first time and found it a lovely city. The Titanic exhibition is fascinating and, although it obviously won't be there in February, the Christmas market was so lovely and festive. I'll definitely go again.

Frank Black

With any luck they'll blow themselves up during their next bomb making exercise. Much like their SF/IRA brethren, I can't imagine their the sharpest tools in the box.

MFdaveIreland

Phoebas wrote: »

Yes.

Fair enough, just curious to how it would be impossible,

Wonder will we ever see a United Ireland with Catholic and protestant united or how long will this garbage go on for

timthumbni

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Fee points to make, I see in the news regularly that a bomb has went off etc, likely to be dissident republicans, I'm curious to how these people come to the conclusion that it is, and would I be mad suggesting that people could be doing it to blame it in them, I'm nt taking sides, and not do I understand, I'm a just a tad skeptical that It could in some cases be a type of frame, but I wholeheartedly condemn all these attacks, scum bags whovever they are , any thoughts, is this too Way out to be viable?

If it is a bomb then you can be almost certain it will be republicans. The only people who don't accept this is the deluded, the armchair types and the criminally insane. Ha.

NoCrackHaving

timthumbni wrote: »

If it is a bomb then you can be almost certain it will be republicans. The only people who don't accept this is the deluded, the armchair types and the criminally insane. Ha.

I'd actually say you could say with nearly 99% certainty, I can't recall the last loyalist bomb attack that occured, they prefer to spend their time shooting each other instead.

timthumbni

NoCrackHaving wrote: »

I'd actually say you could say with nearly 99% certainty, I can't recall the last loyalist bomb attack that occured, they prefer to spend their time shooting each other instead.

Couldn't argue with you in that. The loyalists are better qualified to get you bad quality coke or e's that may kill you.mThe republicans more into bombing kids. (With a bit of drug dealing on the side)

Mint Aero

old hippy wrote: »

I see the brave patriots have been at it again. And at a busy time of year in the run up to xmas. How thoughtful of them. No doubt this is the wake up call we all need to remind us that patriotism, romantic and just, is still with us.

I wonder what we can expect for the centenary of the Rising? Perhaps a bit of carnage in some of the major cities at home and in the UK just to make us all proud as punch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25372680

old hippy wrote: »

I used the term "brave patriots" in a sarcastic way. I don't subscribe to patriotism in general but I have no proble (for example) the 1916 patriots or the American Revolution...

The people behind this latest bit of mayhem are not, nor ever will be patriotic.

See, your OP is just really passive aggressive nonsense. Who exactly is it you're angry at? The bombers? Would you not just say that instead of inferring that patriotism is somehow bad just because we're Irish and we have a bit of history you don't like.

Second quote, yes explains you don't like patriotism except you're ok with 1916 and everything since is just stupid backward people harping onto their stupid ideals, ok.

So, completely unrelated to your thread, because I really don't get it but yes I'm pissed off at these scumbags who did this too.

*leaves thread*

Two Flutes

timthumbni wrote: »

If it is a bomb then you can be almost certain it will be republicans. The only people who don't accept this is the deluded, the armchair types and the criminally insane. Ha.

Call me insane but I could have sworn Loyalist used to bomb the **** out of innocent people sitting in pubs.

timthumbni

Two Flutes wrote: »

Call me insane but I could have sworn Loyalist used to bomb the **** out of innocent people sitting in pubs.

Indeed but in recent years???????

If bookies were taking bets I would bet my life savings on these things being left by Irish republicans.

They have even admitted to it now so not sure why you acting like you are surprised. I live in Norn Iron btw so maybe I'm just a bit more clued up than you. Even Gerry adams knew this was republicans. Dissidents are a bit like the retarded brothers of the ira. They can't see how the ira have spectacularly failed so they want to blow up a few kids to show how dopey they are.

Courtesy Flush

old hippy wrote: »

I used the term "brave patriots" in a sarcastic way. I don't subscribe to patriotism in general but I have no problems with (for example) the 1916 patriots or the American Revolution...

The people behind this latest bit of mayhem are not, nor ever will be patriotic.

You "dont subscribe to Patriotism in general"

Foxhound38

Cowards and traitors to the Irish people - I'll be raising a glass in celebration if I hear soon that one or more of these stupid f*cks have managed to blow themselves up in their next bomb-making session.

It's strange that the lunatic apologists haven't decended on this thread yet...

Berns

Meanwhile in Lisburn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25379319

Possibly related to the fleg i guess, used to wait for lift to work outside building beside it in mornings too :eek:

Two Flutes

Almost 45 years since the modern troubles in the North began and there still isnt lasting peace
Just shows how much Partition messed up the country

timthumbni

Two Flutes wrote: »

Almost 45 years since the modern troubles in the North began and there still isnt lasting peace
Just shows how much Partition messed up the country

Hmmm. Just see if unification improves anything. I doubt it..

old hippy

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

You "dont subscribe to Patriotism in general"

Correct.