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Rock 'n' Roll Half Marathon 2014 (AAI National Half)

  • 13-12-2013 1:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭


    As the 2013 road racing season comes to an end and you start planning your 2014 pursuits, don't miss the Official National Half Marathon Championships on Monday, 4 August 2014.
    They're sure to ROCK all over again at the 2nd annual Rock 'n' Roll Dublin Half Marathon!

    Athletics Ireland Member perks include:
    • Best entry rate - €25
    • Live bands every mile
    • Finisher's Medal & Tech Tee
    • NEW City Centre Course - to be announced early 2014
    • Post Race Concert

    Looks like the National Half will be part of the Rock 'n' Roll again next year.


    While I felt it was a good race last year and well organised, I still feel that this should be given around to clubs.

    Hopefully the results won't be a shambles this time round!
    .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    blockic wrote: »
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    Looks like the National Half will be part of the Rock 'n' Roll again next year.


    While I felt it was a good race last year and well organised, I still feel that this should be given around to clubs.

    Hopefully the results won't be a shambles this time round!
    .

    In fairness the shambles in the results have nothing to do with the RnR crowd...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    Interested to know what the new route will be as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Interesting one this, are the National champs not supposed to go to different province every year? Putting aside that issue, its probably a reasonably sensible decision. Rock n Roll can bring a bit more publicity and public attention to a National championship race which is a positive thing. I was pleasantly surprised at the race last year and will probably go again next year.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    What the AAI need to ( can ) change for 2014 to improve on this years race is to post the race numbers out to AAI members so they don't have to travel to the 'expo'

    Would also like to see it start a little later than 8am to allow people to travel on the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭johnruns


    National 10km,half marathon and marathon championships all being held in Dublin and it doesnt look like thats going to change in the next few years,great for Dublin/Leinster clubs but a bit unfair on road runners outside the Leinster area especially with the early start times.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    johnruns wrote: »
    National 10km,half marathon and marathon championships all being held in Dublin and it doesnt look like thats going to change in the next few years,great for Dublin/Leinster clubs but a bit unfair on road runners outside the Leinster area especially with the early start times.

    Not exactly inspring for those of us in Dublin either. Can see the logic of the national marathon champs being in Dublin but not the rest.

    National 10K doesn't exactly start early btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 SliM Dedalus


    pistol_75 wrote: »
    Interested to know what the new route will be as well.

    http://ie.competitor.com/dublin/course

    Not as good as last years I think. I didn't run it in 2013 but the course seemed to take in more of the city. Too many loops around the Phoenix Park and the last mile and a half is going to be torture having run so close to the finishing line.

    Fully intended on running this but not signed up yet. I'd imagine that I still will, but regret not having done it last year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭TRR


    Is that route fro real? Obviously they will have to have buses to bring gear from start to finish. I hope there are shuttle buses at finish bringing people back into the city as public transport that end of the park isn't great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    finish line 5/6 miles from the start line. They say they'll bring your gear bag from start to finish, but still a pain in the arse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭BrokenMan


    Looks like a bit of a mess on acres road, cant figure out whats going on there when you come off or onto chesterfield ave


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭cian_r


    eh ... the route last year was much better. We went through the park, but then back into the city.

    Are we supposed to walk back through the park to catch public transport. hmmm :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Downtime


    RayCun wrote: »
    They say they'll bring your gear bag from start to finish, but still a pain in the arse
    Will they bring my car too? Terrible route this year.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Route looks dull. Kinda takes away from the whole run through the city thing Rock n Roll have going on. Sure we can't be shutting down a few roads for a couple of hours in Dublin to do a decent route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Net Uphill course :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Given that it's now a point to point race, I doubt it will be AIMS certified, or can be used for qualification purposes, given the elevation change and the start/finish separation. Unusual approach for an AAI national event. The only thing I can see going for this race is that it is the National Half marathon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    Looks like they have found a starting point (docklands) that would normally be empty on a bank holiday Monday morning and a finishing spot that can cater for the crowd without congesting or having to close off any of the city and joined the dots in between.

    Either way people are going to be badly put out for getting to the start or from the finish or whatever and what is not a very exciting route. Still I'm sure the landmarks etc they have named along the route will get their fair share of travelling tourists and how could we forget the medal that will draw another bunch in :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    pistol_75 wrote: »
    Looks like they have found a starting point (docklands) that would normally be empty on a bank holiday Monday morning and a finishing spot that can cater for the crowd without congesting or having to close off any of the city and joined the dots in between.

    Either way people are going to be badly put out for getting to the start or from the finish or whatever and what is not a very exciting route. Still I'm sure the landmarks etc they have named along the route will get their fair share of travelling tourists and how could we forget the medal that will draw another bunch in :rolleyes:

    ''This is the PWC building''

    ''This is the convention centre''

    ''boring, boring, boring,''

    ''Christchurch Cathedral''

    ''boring, boring''

    ''Ballyfermot, run faster''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭pistol_75


    ''This is the PWC building''

    ''This is the convention centre''

    ''boring, boring, boring,''

    ''Christchurch Cathedral''

    ''boring, boring''

    ''Ballyfermot, run faster''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    ''Phoenix Park''

    Ah but you see they have worded it so much better :) quick sign up straight away.

    Starting in Dublin’s Docklands area, running along the north side of the Liffey River, runners are in for a treat as they pass all of the fan favorites! After crossing over Memorial Bridge onto the south side, the route passes the famous Ha’Penny bridge (cue the photo opps!), Christ Church Cathedral, Brazen Head Pub (Ireland’s oldest pub), James Joyce Museum, and of course, no tour of Dublin would be complete without… the Guinness Brewery. Although, the smell of hops and barley will be fleeting, as runners continue on past the Royal Hospital and Kilmainham Gaol into Phoenix Park, one of the largest walled city parks in Europe. It’s there that the journey turns scenic as the route winds its way through the lush park, taking in the Wellington Monument, the Papal Cross, the President’s House (Áras an Uachtaráin) and the famous Dublin Zoo, finishing with a rockin’ concert in the park!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    pistol_75 wrote: »
    Ah but you see they have worded it so much better :) quick sign up straight away.

    Starting in Dublin’s Docklands area, running along the north side of the Liffey River, runners are in for a treat as they pass all of the fan favorites! After crossing over Memorial Bridge onto the south side, the route passes the famous Ha’Penny bridge (cue the photo opps!), Christ Church Cathedral, Brazen Head Pub (Ireland’s oldest pub), James Joyce Museum, and of course, no tour of Dublin would be complete without… the Guinness Brewery. Although, the smell of hops and barley will be fleeting, as runners continue on past the Royal Hospital and Kilmainham Gaol into Phoenix Park, one of the largest walled city parks in Europe. It’s there that the journey turns scenic as the route winds its way through the lush park, taking in the Wellington Monument, the Papal Cross, the President’s House (Áras an Uachtaráin) and the famous Dublin Zoo, finishing with a rockin’ concert in the park!

    Someone's journalism degree went to good use there! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Someone's journalism degree went to good use there! :P
    Sounds more like an estate agent's spiel!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Run back to car can be used as a cool down ;)

    The people who did Samsung route must have came up with this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    pistol_75 wrote: »
    Ah but you see they have worded it so much better :) quick sign up straight away.

    Starting in Dublin’s Docklands area, running along the north side of the Liffey River, runners are in for a treat as they pass all of the fan favorites! After crossing over Memorial Bridge onto the south side, the route passes the famous Ha’Penny bridge (cue the photo opps!), Christ Church Cathedral, Brazen Head Pub (Ireland’s oldest pub), James Joyce Museum, and of course, no tour of Dublin would be complete without… the Guinness Brewery. Although, the smell of hops and barley will be fleeting, as runners continue on past the Royal Hospital and Kilmainham Gaol into Phoenix Park, one of the largest walled city parks in Europe. It’s there that the journey turns scenic as the route winds its way through the lush park, taking in the Wellington Monument, the Papal Cross, the President’s House (Áras an Uachtaráin) and the famous Dublin Zoo, finishing with a rockin’ concert in the park!

    I like it, gives me an idea for the Bay10k - what do you think? :P
    Starting in Newtownsmith a delightful row of terraced houses with sea views and running towards the historic Queen’s Road, runners are in for a treat as they briefly pass the Royal St. George Yacht club. Turning onto Marine Road thoughts can now wander to crossing the Irish sea and perhaps going on one of Dun Laoghaire to Holyhead’s famous booze cruises. Passing the newly built Marina and running parallel to the Dort you now make your way back to the main road passing the third oldest pub in Dublin, The Purty Kitchen, where many a love story has begun. Your journey then takes onwards though the stomping grounds of Meno and Martha, where the footpaths can tell many a harrowing tale as 20 mile LSRs grind slowly to a halt usually in March or September. Leaving the coast behind for a while you are in for a treat as 15th century village of Monkstown is just around the corner, once linked with Royalty, it’s now linked with restaurants and 2nd hand car dealers. No 10k of it’s worth would be complete without some climbing to test your running skills (our 10 week course on how to run hills is now available at a 5% discount to participants for €95) and you make your way to the high point of the course and Dublin’s 2nd most famous roundabout, Sallynoggin Roundabout (seconded only by Walkinstown). Downhill now and time to check out a recently refurbished roundabout and if you're lucky a glimpse of Killiney Towers. Still going downhill (a treat for the 2nd half of any race) you run through the magnificent residential streets of Glenageary and soon you pass the start line again, no time to stop for a Teddy’s ice cream though that will have to wait for later boys and girls the end is in sight now as crowds at least 2 deep applaud your efforts.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,194 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Dlr Bay it is. Again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    They posted the route map on their facebook page.

    How in the hell did that get approval for national championships without a route pre-approved? That is a horrendously technical course with more twists and turns nevermind the spot where it appears to cross over itself. That should be fun and entertaining for the people up front racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    It looks like a child just scribbled with a red marker on a map of dublin city centre


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    AKW wrote: »
    They posted the route map on their facebook page.

    How in the hell did that get approval for national championships without a route pre-approved? That is a horrendously technical course with more twists and turns nevermind the spot where it appears to cross over itself. That should be fun and entertaining for the people up front racing.

    Info on the approval available HERE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭drquirky


    Hahahah- Shocking route. I actually really enjoyed this last year but I've run enough races w/ crap finishes in the hills in the PP to know what that looks like and will avoid this year. Pretty astonishing that they would route it like this seeing as they target tourists etc… I echo the comments above, so much for a City Centre HM!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    TRR wrote: »
    Is that route fro real? Obviously they will have to have buses to bring gear from start to finish. I hope there are shuttle buses at finish bringing people back into the city as public transport that end of the park isn't great!

    It's not that bad transport wise. Plenty of buses out on the Navan Rd via Ashtown gate or a couple of routes just outside the Castleknock gate. Ashtown train station is only 10 mins away too which will bring you to Connolly or Pearse. BTW the train is very handy for tomorrow's Dunboyne 4 mile too if anyone is running. Always thought it was a very under used facility for that race. ...and no I don't work for CIE before anyone asks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭johnruns


    It's not that bad transport wise. Plenty of buses out on the Navan Rd via Ashtown gate or a couple of routes just outside the Castleknock gate. Ashtown train station is only 10 mins away too which will bring you to Connolly or Pearse. BTW the train is very handy for tomorrow's Dunboyne 4 mile too if anyone is running. Always thought it was a very under used facility for that race. ...and no I don't work for CIE before anyone asks!

    Public Transport on a Bank Holiday??hope nobody is in a rush back to the start!!!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I hope there are extra luas into north wall quay for 7am on a bank holiday monday too :)

    I assume they're claiming the change of route is due to the luas works? Not sure how much disruption that would cause at 8am on a bank holiday monday though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    johnruns wrote: »
    Public Transport on a Bank Holiday??hope nobody is in a rush back to the start!!!

    Fair point but easily resolved if the will is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭RunRoryRun


    Jaysus. That's sh1te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Condo131


    Given that it's now a point to point race, I doubt it will be AIMS certified, or can be used for qualification purposes, given the elevation change and the start/finish separation. Unusual approach for an AAI national event. The only thing I can see going for this race is that it is the National Half marathon.
    IAAF Rule 240.2 "Note (i): It is recommended that, for Road Races staged over standard distances, the start and finish points, measured along a
    theoretical straight line between them should not be further apart than 50% of the race distance. For approval of Records, see Rule 260.28 (b)."

    IAAF Rule 260.28(b) "The start and finish points of a course, measured along a theoretical straight line between them, shall not be further apart
    than 50% of the race distance."

    IAAF Rule 260.28(c) "The overall decrease in elevation between the start and finish shall not exceed 1:1000, i.e. 1m per km (0.1%)."

    The rules have changed in recent years. I make the distance between start & finish to be approx. 4.48 miles apart (34.17%), and there is a rise, rather than a fall, of approx. 50.72m. It appears that the course is valid.

    Looking at the course map though, it looks like the course crosses over itself at least three times :confused: close to the papal cross.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    A pure cost cutting route. I won't be returning. Shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    There goes any idea i had of running this race. Cant even bring the kids to the zoo that morning now!! Damn Runners!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭lmguillou


    Has anyone tried the discount code they sent tou by email today? When i'm trying it it says it has expired while in their email it says it is valid until 23.59pm... Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Bugsy2000


    Just plotted this on Map my Run & it's possible to run that route without runners crossing over. It'll mean moving the start back as far as the O2 & extending out the finish line slightly, but it's possible.

    http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/382176690

    The only point where the contra flow will meet is at the Glen Road / Furze Road junction & that simply means putting a barrier diagonally across the crossroads.

    Still think it's a sh!te route though. You have the quays & the park & thats it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Ashtown train station is only 10 mins away

    10 minutes by bike, or 10 minutes continuous sprint ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Extrasupervery


    That is an almighty mess. Looks like they got lost in the park. Was planning on running this too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭mmg0305


    Allegedly, they have fixed the discount code. So maybe try again.

    I'm not too enthused about this course. And struggling a bit to believe their shuttle bus concept will work. Sigh, I really liked the RnR concept and enjoyed it last year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Bugsy2000 wrote: »
    Just plotted this on Map my Run & it's possible to run that route without runners crossing over. It'll mean moving the start back as far as the O2 & extending out the finish line slightly, but it's possible.

    http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/382176690

    Your route is slightly different from the one on their website - there's a triangle between Acres Road and Chesterfield, they show three sides on the route and you show two sides. Getting that third side into the route would be impossible without crossing over, so its more likely that they made a mistake in the route they put up and yours is correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Bugsy2000


    That was my thinking on it too. That junction just didn't make sense with the three sides included. Omitting that loop around the triangle results in the movement of the start / finish lines though. But it's doable.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    They claim the route was affected by the luas works, is DCM going to be changed with this? Hardworker, I know you're lurking :D is DCM route going to have to change too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    They claim the route was affected by the luas works, is DCM going to be changed with this? Hardworker, I know you're lurking :D is DCM route going to have to change too?

    DCM route is changing, the start and the end
    there are changes to the early miles in the Marathon as we cant use Nassau Street up to O'Connell Street. The finish run in also has to change as we cants use College Green or Nassau Street here also. We have an approved route that we need to get officially measured before we can announce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    10 minutes by bike, or 10 minutes continuous sprint ?

    Ah come on, you're quicker than that. It's less than a mile!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭PainIsTemporary


    AKW wrote: »
    They posted the route map on their facebook page.

    How in the hell did that get approval for national championships without a route pre-approved? That is a horrendously technical course with more twists and turns nevermind the spot where it appears to cross over itself.

    Agreed. Absolutely ridiculous route, particularly the second half of the course in the Phoenix Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭shane1981


    Enjoyed this one last year particularly the support coming back into the city. But based on that route, i 'll be giving it a miss. Plenty of races in the Park already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭crisco10


    shane1981 wrote: »
    Enjoyed this one last year particularly the support coming back into the city. But based on that route, i 'll be giving it a miss. Plenty of races in the Park already.

    Had this down to be done in 2014, mainly as a race that WASN'T in the Phoenix Park. A bit conflicted now whether I want to do it or not..Route looks a bit crap, but is there any better HM around that time near dublin?

    Could just get lift to start line then hop in taxi home so the point to point nature won't be a problem for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭audreyp


    I am disappointed with the course too. I was really looking forward to this half marathon and now i'm not. Though it's the only well timed half I can see for dublin marathon. Anyone have any other half suggestions around that time of year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    audreyp wrote: »
    I am disappointed with the course too. I was really looking forward to this half marathon and now i'm not. Though it's the only well timed half I can see for dublin marathon. Anyone have any other half suggestions around that time of year?

    Athlone, Longford, Charleville, the race series half marathon and I'm sure there are a few more.


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