Kenny rules out restoring the Christmas bonus

JONJO THE MISER

I see the spirit of xmas is alive.
It really should be reinstated, a lot of people depended on that payment to pay for xmas presents for there kids and for something extra for xmas, now a lot of people are forced to go to money lenders.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/kenny-rules-out-restoring-the-christmas-bonus-for-people-on-social-welfare-29830060.html

danjo-xx

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has ruled out restoring the Christmas bonus for people on social welfare because "somebody's gotta pay" for the €261m cost.

Oh we all know tooooo well 'who pays' Taoiseach

We can't go to the kind of the situation we had in the past where there was an assumption that everything was available for nothing.

Of course not Taoiseach, especially not for the low paid, sick and vulnerable people who must continue to pay for the debts of gamblers, like the banks and bond holders for decades to come.

Tops ups and bonuses will of course continue as per usual for politicians, ceo's of Government departments and quango's and their cronies.
:mad:

Y2KBOS86

You have to joking OP?

I don't get a bonus in work.

Many other workers don't get a bonus as well.

hmmm

If there's money spare (which there isn't), it should go first to those who are paying for all these "benefits".

danjo-xx

Joan Burton has said that she has €186m in unspent cash, this should go to the most vulnerable.



every little helps, those at the top

danjo-xx

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

You have to joking OP?

I don't get a bonus in work.

Many other workers don't get a bonus as well.

But ye have jobs.... hello and this is the worse depression this country has ever seen.

If the ceo's of charity organizations and the board members of banks can get pension top ups for getting all of us into this mess in the first place, then why not the ordinary folk on welfare get a 'tiny' top up as we are the folk that have suffered the most and paying for this bailout while those that got us into this mess STILL PARTY ON.......

JONJO THE MISER

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

You have to joking OP?

I don't get a bonus in work.

Many other workers don't get a bonus as well.

Yes but people on welfare barely survive on the money they get, how can you expect them to have any sort of xmas, no money for presents or even enough to buy a proper xmas dinner, and a lot of them depended on that bonus to buy there yearly clothes like a good jacket jeans or shoes.

hmmm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yes but people on welfare barely survive on the money they get

Get out of here, there's people who go to work every day who have less disposable income than people on welfare, and who have to pay for their own housing and transport.

Do you believe everyone on welfare has a council house and travel pass?

danjo-xx

hmmm wrote: »

Get out of here, there's people who go to work every day who have less disposable income than people on welfare, and who have to pay for their own housing and transport.

Exactly how much disposable income do you think a person on €188 pw on welfare has after paying for:

Heating
Refuse Collection
Clothing
Food
Prescription charges
Bus fares (very few have free travel)
Water tax & Local Property Tax to follow.


I'm talking about decent honest people on welfare, not the minority of cowboys that milk the system.

danjo-xx

danjo-xx wrote: »

I'm talking about decent honest people on welfare, not the minority of cowboys that milk the system.

There are an awful lot of decent honest people that are doing just fine, that you're suggesting should all get a christmas bonus. There are supplementary/emergency payments that people can get, along with help from charities (e.g. SVP) if they genuinely are struggling at christmas.

An awful lot of people on welfare, just like an awful lot of people who aren't on welfare, save all year to afford Christmas, and live just fine, and will be buying their children Xboxes or iPads this Christmas. Some people, on a regular welfare payment or not, couldn't afford to save and will struggle to get food on the table this Christmas. Suggesting an all-round Christmas bonus for people on welfare at a time when some people are seriously struggling and others aren't at all is only going to reduce the available funds for those who really need it. In January the bereavement grant will be stopped - do you really think the Christmas bonus is a priority at a time like that?

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

It always pissed me off that my mate on the dole got more than I got in my wage the week before Christmas. Can see why it'd annoy people if the government decided to plough €260 million or whatever the figure is into providing a bonus again while PAYE workers are getting hit harder every year with a combination of USC and indirect taxes.

If they want to reinstate the bonus, cut the core Social Welfare rate by ~€4 per week and give a double payment at Chrimbo. Nobody would begrudge that.

cee_jay

Nota state benefits issue. Closed.