UK MPs condemn independent report reccomending they take a pay rise

Pedro K

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The watchdog will unveil its final proposals next week - including boosting MPs' salaries by £7,600 to £74,000 from 2015.

Shadow chancellor Ed Balls told Sky News: "I think it’s preposterous we should be having this discussion and as a shadow chancellor how could I possibly say to Labour MPs, at this time with the economy like this, when people are under real pressure, when there’s a cost of living crisis, that they (MPs) should take a pay rise."

Ipsa is expected to try to quell criticism by announcing a tougher-than-expected squeeze on MPs' pensions in a bid to cancel out the £4.6m cost to the taxpayer.

All three main party leaders have condemned the increase at a time of national austerity, with Labour's Ed Miliband and Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg pledging to shun the extra cash.

I couldn't see our lot doing similar if offered a raise. All of our TDs are already on a wage of ~€90,000 plus a very generous expense package.

EDIT: Could ya imagine if our lot were told they deserve a raise?

"Fockin shuure we do boyo. Let's go for pints in the dail bar to celebrate, drive home drunk and threaten to end the career of any gardai who pull us over. Wahoo. Shtick us on a pint there Enda. Micheal Martin has the next round."

Cookie_Monster

Queue people comparing it to private business needing high wage to attract good calibre employees...

niallo27

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Queue people comparing it to private business needing high wage to attract good calibre employees...

Well isnt there some truth to it, if you pay **** all, why would skilled people bother doing it.

Sunglasses Ron

niallo27 wrote: »

Well isnt there some truth to it, if you pay **** all, why would skilled people bother doing it.

The official thinking bhind it is, to my knowledge, it prevents cash strapped politicians resorting to the easy temptation of bribery.

It has worked a treat over our history alright :pac: For a small nation two long serving prime ministers implicated in such a high level of corruption mostly commited within 30 odd years of each other is some going :pac:

Cookie_Monster

niallo27 wrote: »

Well isnt there some truth to it, if you pay **** all, why would skilled people bother doing it.

The public good.... :pac::pac::pac::pac: (if only)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Pedro K wrote: »

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I couldn't see our lot doing similar if offered a raise. All of our TDs are already on a wage of ~€90,000 plus a very generous expense package.

EDIT: Could ya imagine if our lot were told they deserve a raise?

"Fockin shuure we do boyo. Let's go for pints in the dail bar to celebrate, drive home drunk and threaten to end the career of any gardai who pull us over. Wahoo. Shtick us on a pint there Enda. Micheal Martin has the next round."

I read somewhere that the Presifent of Uruguay donates domethign like 90% of his salary to charity.

If Messers Cameron, Clegg and Miliband are serious about not wanting this increase, why not do the same with their extra 11% or whatever it is. Think it'll happen...?

Cookie_Monster

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I read somewhere that the President of Uruguay donates something like 90% of his salary to charity.

that's even worse, just take less money from the country rather than throw it at some random charity.

sunflower27

No way would they take a pay cut here, not in a million years. They all feel terribly entitled here.

kowloon

They're saying the right things, but I expect that's as much as they'll do.

Annasopra

sunflower27 wrote: »

No way would they take a pay cut here, not in a million years. They all feel terribly entitled here.

They did take pay cuts here. When the government came into office Ministers took 40% pay cut based on their predecessors

keeponhurling

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

The official thinking bhind it is, to my knowledge, it prevents cash strapped politicians resorting to the easy temptation of bribery.

It has worked a treat over our history alright :pac: For a small nation two long serving prime ministers implicated in such a high level of corruption mostly commited within 30 odd years of each other is some going :pac:

I'm trying to figure out which of Garrett, Charlie and Bertie you are forgetting in order to arrive at only two.
If you extend to "complicit with or covering up" corruption, you''ll get even more

hfallada

I think it should a proportion of their previous jobs wage. There is a reason why there is no business people in the dail as their wage would fall. The dail is a retirement home for teachers, who I personally wouldnt get to run a corner shop. But for reason people vote them in to run a country

Annasopra

keeponhurling wrote: »

I'm trying to figure out which of Garrett, Charlie and Bertie you are forgetting in order to arrive at only two.
If you extend to "complicit with or covering up" corruption, you''ll get even more

Garrett was not implicated in a high level of corruption

Beefy78

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Queue people comparing it to private business needing high wage to attract good calibre employees...

It's a perfectly good argument though. MPs in the UK don't earn a particularly good wage so it's a job which primarily attracts people looking for power. Which probably isn't the greatest motivation for the public.