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Collector looking for Garda Uniform Belt

  • 08-12-2013 5:41pm
    #1
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭


    I'm a collector of police and army uniform items from around the world. I am looking for a genuine issue leather belt worn by An Garda Siochanna before the uniform changed a couple of years back, so its the ex issue belt I am after not the newer thinner one with the garda crest. The belt is black leather with a square silver buckle. As a collector I would be happy to pay a good price. Hope to hear from you guys soon. Cheers.


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  • #2
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Not a hope. Rare as hens teeth. Not issued, but private purchase. Were made to order using an old mould which no longer exists, based on the older DMA belt, modified with a Garda crest instead of the DMP one..


    Nice try though.


  • #3
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Not a hope. Rare as hens teeth. Not issued, but private purchase. Were made to order using an old mould which no longer exists, based on the older DMA belt, modified with a Garda crest instead of the DMP one..


    Nice try though.

    I was hoping I would be able to maybe locate an old one from a member who would be willing to part with it as its ex issue. Where the belts made in Ireland or sourced abroad?


  • #4
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Made in Ireland, I believe by a Dublin based Garda. They couldn't be got in 1994, so any you saw after then were passed down as family or unit heirlooms.


  • #5
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Made in Ireland, I believe by a Dublin based Garda. They couldn't be got in 1994, so any you saw after then were passed down as family or unit heirlooms.

    Hi don't know if we are talking about the same belt. I think you may be referring to the very old belt with correct me if I'm wrong but like a hook attachment on the buckle.The one I would be looking for would have been worn up to maybe 2005/6 . It was just the standard issue uniform belt up until then. I think some gardai may still wear it! I'm pretty sure there would be a large number of these belts still around!


  • #6
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    The uniform issue belt in 1994 was black with a silver normal buckle. No crest. Have you a photo of what you are talking about?


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  • #7
    Pappa Charlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Pappa Charlie


    Mr Viking wrote: »
    Hi don't know if we are talking about the same belt. I think you may be referring to the very old belt with correct me if I'm wrong but like a hook attachment on the buckle.The one I would be looking for would have been worn up to maybe 2005/6 . It was just the standard issue uniform belt up until then. I think some gardai may still wear it! I'm pretty sure there would be a large number of these belts still around!

    There should be a fair few of them about!


  • #8
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    goldie fish wrote: »
    The uniform issue belt in 1994 was black with a silver normal buckle. No crest. Have you a photo of what you are talking about?

    I don't have a photo but the one you mention is the one I am after. It's a black leather belt with a standard silver buckle and no crest


  • #9
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Seriously? I have one of them. It's well worn and doesn't fit any more for some reason :) Leather belt loop was attached to the buckle with another leather strap.

    11294904996_91d0f92953_c.jpg


  • #10
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    where did you attach your bow and arrow goldie?


  • #11
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I have one.

    Keeping it.


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  • #12
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Scouser wrote: »
    where did you attach your bow and arrow goldie?

    The Bow and arrow came in after me. We had the jawbone of an ass (or mule).


  • #13
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    goldie fish wrote: »
    The Bow and arrow came in after me. We had the jawbone of an ass (or mule).

    hardcore :cool:


  • #14
    Lemon_and_Lime
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 ✭Lemon_and_Lime


    Hi Mr.Viking,

    I'm not quite sure to be honest.... have you check the sales section?.

    Now, I will continue:
    Mr. I know you're undercover, and I want to say that your wasting your time because the knight defender guy was a joke, and I'm only making this post to let you know and the team or whatever that it would be a complete waste of time because from me it was a joke, and like you could be out looking for whatever man.

    soooo goodluck man...
    peace m8,

    by the way, the irish knight defender guy has stopped posting the joke/trolle threads. so yeah.


  • #15
    Whitewater-AGS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Whitewater-AGS


    Once more in English please m8?


  • #16
    Hooch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Not a hope. Rare as hens teeth. Not issued, but private purchase. Were made to order using an old mould which no longer exists, based on the older DMA belt, modified with a Garda crest instead of the DMP one..


    Nice try though.

    Not quite correct. The belt you're referring to Goldie was a mould of an original AGS belt. It was on issue up to 1948 to members serving in the DMR or Cork city along with the old "bell" type helmets. They are exactly like the DMP (not DMA) buckles but with AGS on it. I have two originals and one copy. The copies are just as rare as the originals.


    http://www.whytes.ie/13SEarchResults.asp?Search2=garda&submit.x=11&submit.y=6&SeekAid=Aid1&Auction=20130914


  • #17
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    Hooch wrote: »
    Not quite correct. The belt you're referring to Goldie was a mould of an original AGS belt. It was on issue up to 1948 to members serving in the DMR or Cork city along with the old "bell" type helmets. They are exactly like the DMP (not DMA) buckles but with AGS on it. I have two originals and one copy. The copies are just as rare as the originals.


    http://www.whytes.ie/13SEarchResults.asp?Search2=garda&submit.x=11&submit.y=6&SeekAid=Aid1&Auction=20130914


    I managed to pick up an original AGS belt some years ago from another auction house (not the one on your link) along with the bell type helmet. Paid through the nose for both of them but excellent pieces to have!


  • #18
    Whitewater-AGS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Whitewater-AGS


    Ok put the tin foil hat back on and slowly move away from the keyboard.


  • #19
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Lemon_and_Lime sitebanned.


  • #20
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Turner wrote: »
    Lemon_and_Lime sitebanned.

    why?

    i thought he made a wonderful and insightful contribution


  • #21
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    re-reg


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  • #22
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Turner wrote: »
    re-reg

    im surprised u even answered me :D;) :rolleyes:


  • #23
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    To be fair, it's a whole other type of walt who begins collecting unidentifiable bits of uniform. Wonder what they were after next. The Old Blackthorn shoes that the canteen shop in the depot sold? The waterproof cape and pull ups?


  • #24
    Bosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭Bosh


    Oh Jaysis, the plastic cape!

    What's worse, I remember wearing it :(:o

    All he's missing now is the black rubber torch.....


  • #25
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    I could never figure out what the pull ups were supposed to attach to


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